British husband told he's too fat to adopt., page 6
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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:40 AM by CloudySkye
reply to post by dean007


I sympathise with your plight, as I said some people just have these problems in their genes or otherwise have gained some other problems that prevent the weight loss.

I don't know if you have a bone to pick with me about it but I couldn't care less about fat/obese, I just dis-like people who are clearly unhealthy as a result of abusing their body. From what you are saying you are healthy on which I congratulate you. I form the relative opposite to the spectrum.

I'm 5'10" and weigh 56kg and have done since I was about 14.
I can't gain weight even if I eat twice as much as everybody else. Worse, if for some short period of time I eat food that is "healthy" or doesnt have much protein/ fat content then I lose weight rapidly and it takes months to return to 56kg where it stops.

Just like yourself people see me as unhealthy because of my size. despite that I could easily run a half marathon in respectable time and I can carry as much as the next person in weight too. With exception to my epilepsy, I am healthy, but people can't see that I have that.

For me the problem is not about size it's purely about health, don't tell me you haven't seen very large people wheezing and sweating after one flight of stairs, and conversly very thin people who are so frail that they might snap if you poked them.

Fat is not the new black, Shape and Size is the new Colour.


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:40 AM by CloudySkye
it double posted somehow
please delete

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:10 AM by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by tezzajw
Please supply your data to support this claim.


Ok.

www.kidsource.com...


The risk of becoming obese is greatest among children who have two obese parents (Dietz, 1983). This may be due to powerful genetic factors or to parental modeling of both eating and exercise behaviors, indirectly affecting the child's energy balance. One half of parents of elementary school children never exercise vigorously (Ross & Pate, 1987).


Originally posted by tezzajw
Remember that this fat parent wants to adopt. The child will not have the fat parent's genetics.

Are you suggesting that environmental factors influence a child more than genetics?


I am saying genetics play a small part yes. The reason i say this is that if you take a morbidly obese person blaming it on genetics and drop them into a famine then they will quickly lose weight. Obese parents eat to much, the children will see this and think it's perfectly fine. Furthermore the obese parents are likely to serve portions of food that are to large and/or to full of fat and salt.


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:26 AM by CloudySkye
reply to post by batch


maybe not, but they should purely for the copious amounts of steroids he proably has used that will more than likely prematurely end his life.
Besides if we're talking WWF i'm not really sure you CAN call him an athlete, just a performer. That and they can say he weighs whatever they want..


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Avenginggecko
reply to post by WyrdeOne


No offense, but the state shouldn't have to cater to each individual. They don't have the resources to create rules on a case by case basis.

Perhaps he is 'healthy' fat, perhaps he isn't. That doesn't change the fact that he just barely disqualifies himself from adoption. He is classified medically as being morbidly obese, thus his body has become affected by the disease of obesity. If he truly wanted to adopt the child, why not shed a couple pounds?

Yes, perhaps there are bodybuilders with a 40+ BMI, but they aren't affected by obesity. A cursory glance at this fella shows that it is his body fat that affects his BMI, not his muscle mass.

I'll say it again: if he truly wanted to adopt, he wouldn't give a flip about an obesity rule that he barely fails. He'd do what it takes to provide a loving, stable home to the child. I bet he could easily go from a 42 to a 40 in a month's time, but what is he doing? Interviews on BBC. Mmmmkay...

Seriously, the husband and wife are both scoffing at the idea of him having to drop a few pounds during the assessment period. Are you kidding me?


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 01:13 PM by batch
reply to post by CloudySkye


maby they are profomers im nt hear to argue but id say they have to stay in shape weather its fake fighting or not.
he did a thing with floyd mayweather and the weighd him on telly live so im prety sure that is his weight.
i feel like it should be about situation not about ur bmi i mean i have a bmi of 35 and count as obess but its musscle not fat as im a mma fighter so if i whent up to be a heavyweight i canot adopt evan tho im in gd shape and work out 5 days a week seams strange to me

just my opinions


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:45 PM by Avenginggecko
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by Avenginggecko
No offense, but the state shouldn't have to cater to each individual. They don't have the resources to create rules on a case by case basis.

No offence, but the state SHOULD have to cater to each individual. They are placing INDIVIDUAL children with new INDIVIDUAL families, possibly for life.

Unless each adoption is assessed individually, you'll have lots of worthy people missing out on the chance to care for a new child.

It should be a requirement of the state that their resources allow them to treat every application as a different family, offering different qualities for raising a child.

What do you want the process to involve, fill out a form, crank the government machine's handle and then pop out an answer?


Adoptions are assessed on an individual, case by case basis. If you'll read the article you posted, the couple scoffed at the idea of losing weight to even undergo an assessment period. To adopt a child in a first-world country, you have to meet a minimum amount of requirements, then they asses your life over a time period and determine you aren't a whacko or abusive maniac or something, and then they approve the adoption.

In the UK, refusing to treat yourself of a completely treatable disease means to the government that you don't take this fragile life seriously enough to raise it. Sorry, it's medically proven that morbid obesity is bad. It's a burden on the individual, their family, their social circle, and their society. It's also treatable. I have no compassion for a man who claims to want a child but won't work for it. Do you not see something wrong with that?

Of course I'm not surprised that he's more than willing to whine and complain from the comfort of his sofa. Seems more than typical of a man with a lazy mentality brought on by a lifestyle of self-inflicted obesity.

No, I have no proof it was self-inflicted. It just seems that way. Perhaps he could rise above the stereotype, work off the pounds, and prove me wrong.


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:23 PM by DantesLost
reply to post by tezzajw


I remember a similar case from several years ago,where the man and the woman had both been told they were too overweight to raise children.

This was despite the fact that they went to 7! different doctors who each gave both of them a clean bill of health.

The problem in today's world is that people equal fat with being unfit more than ever before.

I am now classed as 'very overweight' by today's standards yet I go hiking every weekend over hill and dale at a distance of 10-20 miles.My closest friend has always struggled to do this,yet she weighs only 8 stone.(she's one of those naturally skinny people)Why does she struggle to do this? Because she smokes like a chimney and drinks like a navvie.

How you treat your body is more important than how you look.But this happens all the time,and has happened in this case.

From article in the OP.

"It's hard to lose weight under pressure. I'm not a couch potato and I don't sit eating takeaways every night.

"I just feel as though we were only judged on my weight and not all the other good things about us.
"We don't drink or smoke and we could give a child a happy and safe home."



reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:32 PM by redled
reply to post by tezzajw


I come from Cambridgeshire UK. My family nearly had to put me in council care (aren't I a naughty boy). As it turns out in my late teens to early twenties, it turned out that Cambridge Council care services were riddled with paedophile rings. As a child I was bright, inquisitive and trusting and would have been raped from wall to wall. I think that the perverts who want to seduce children to their dark webs need to lay off 'smokers,' and now the latest, 'fat' people, and stick to their kiddy fiddling porn.
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