I play WOW because it provides me world where I can escape to and have some fun playing with my friends.

Original Poster, is correct. WoW is probably the most significant mind trap in effect right now.

"Games" is all they are. Yet the USA is at war, right now, did you know that? Do you and your friends in your WoW "adventures", ever discuss the fact that the real world is crap? Probably not, because as this poster says above: "It's about ESCAPE!" (emphasis mine)

Blizzard is an entertainment company. And did you know what? All entertainment companies during wartime, are disgned to keep the people asleep so the war can be removed from their consciousness until the Russians are actually dominating airspace. Hmm, I guess the US's airspace has been violated and worthless since 9/11 right? Seems like the newer Germany is content to just sit and wait for the Russians too, eh?

For what it's worth: I grew up on video games. I remember when the 7/11 upgraded from Donkey Kong to Dig Dug and then to Street Fighter, etc... I spent all my paper money on Dragon's Lair when it came out. I learned a couple truths growing up:

1: Video games are like slot machines but they payout is mental and always a jackpot

2: As in any such casino, the only way to win, is to walk out.

I'll be the first to admit that if the stand-up classic arcade games of the past return, I'll be back in the arcades. But I have made a pact with myself to not play multiplayer online games simply because it's like going from the cocaine of the arcade or console game, to the CRACK COCAINE of the interaction with everyone else globally, in an UNREAL world.

Who can resist all the imagery of WoW and the comic book world in general? There came a time when I shut down my hold slot at the comic store and started reading graphic novels from free from the library. I started saving a lot of cash then.

Now all I have is a PS2. I am resisting all these games that come out. Each one is like the newest, tastiest crack, and I know it will get me high inside my head to play with others in this fake world, but the REAL WORLD is dying quick, and so I have to avoid all multiplayer games.

Can anyone relate to what I'm saying? If not, don't worry because I hear that in the Soviet-style American factories of the future, they've got free WoW accounts in the cels because it makes for a more docile worker.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by smallpeeps]

Yer i heard that in the new expansion there is Illuminati signs in LOADS of place, im not even joking its true.

Originally posted by SleeplessInUS
I played EQ for 8 years and now am playing WoW going on two years.

I can understand how a death in Everquest would more likely send someone into a depression/suicidal much much moreso than World of Warcraft. In Everquest back in the day: You die, all your stuff is on your body, you have to pay to get back to it, run around all the nasty bad guys to pull your body to a safe spot, lose experience you'd spent weeks building up, try to get there before your body disappears with all your stuff, and complete these things within a span of two hours if you're lucky enough to find someone to help you out with the recovery. Everquest has since fixed this for the most part but it is a very very frustrating experience.

World of Warcraft, you die, you can either pop back in with a little bit of armor repair bill or a five minute run and resurrect. In-game death is a minor inconvenience at the most.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by saint4God]

Anyone care to discuss the original topic?!?


Some didn't get it, the message is in that rumbly noisy background sound. The text in the video just states what's being heard in the background. Turn up your speakers!

I'm on the fence atm. And I'm highly skeptical in.... well, almost everything here. :-P But this seems interesting to me. I clearly hear the "you the customer" thingy, without reading the text above the video, so my brain couldn't be tricked by the text.


Crazy...

Originally posted by Griffo515

"Play World of Warcraft
Your money is my cure
Give us your money
That's right you customer"

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Griffo515]

I would say it sounds more like this... only a slight variation.


"Play World of Warcraft
You can buy it by Card
Give us Your Money now
That's Right Customer "


But i also think you hear what you want to hear... or what you are suggested to hear

Also to clarify... i have NEVER played WOW... but i think that matters not.

[edit on 12/1/09 by blupblup]

Its odd that the OP claims that the death screen audio provokes one to play more because usually when that screen greets me its because some 16 year old kid with nothing but time and a epic-laden mage is running around ganking people. Thats about the time I say "!@#$ this" and push back from the keyboard because I'm fed up with nonsense like that.

As for gamers buying gold I consider myself a fairly average gamer with one almost-maxed character and I've purchased gold only once and that was during the Burning Crusade cycle to come up with the last 1000 gold to afford my epic flying mount. I wasn't thrilled with it and generally don't think I would do it again, but I'm quite confident that the death screen (which I rarely see because of a PvE death because I know how to play) had absolutely nothing to do with it and more with my desire to spend more time doing things other than farming.

I may load up this evening and grab some video of the death screen because I suspect the video linked to originally may have been 'embellished' just a touch.

I don't really play WOW but instead I play Runecape.I think thats addicting too but i control myself in different ways.Plus its much cheaper subscription compared to WOW.

Instead of spending hours earning gold and leveling up,i get the chinese dudes in China to sort me out for a coupla dolas.That saves me playing 24/7 as i only go on to enjoy what i do and that is Playerkilling in short (Pking).One can also use Bots cleverley to level up and make gold.

There are many ways, one just has to find his/her way around it.

BEFORE I start reading through all these responses here

I used to play WoW like... top raiding guild on our server end-game raiding end-game gear, in fact my account sold for over 1000 dollars. It's definitely an addiction, and not a healthy one.

One of my ex-guild members now works for Blizzard so we got a lot of inside information/special treatment haha, so I'll keep a look out for him when he's around and see what I can get as far as this whole conspiracy thing goes.

Anywho..on with the reading

edited portion-

As far as the subliminal messaging thing goes I honestly think it's based on the person playing. Because for me to quit took something more than just hearing what my world sounded like after I died.

I had been playing with the same guild for over 3 years, along with ALL the server transfers following our GM around because he always wanted to split somewhere else when people started to "idolize" him...which they did. Long story short I got kicked out for something horribly stupid on behalf of our new gm. I cried for the longest time because these people were my family literally. I developed with these people as a person and as a player and it was like being mauled at the heart by my own shadowfiend. I ended up transferring, only to get kicked out by the new guild because even after I posted that I would be absent for a week, one of the gm didn't take the time to find see that post.

I quit playing after I realized that the game was causing more harm to me than anything else. But I was NOT going to delete my account or give them to my little brother (did not want to ruin his life anymore!) So I ended up selling it, and I cried the whole way through.

I bought gold a couple times too, for myself and occasionally for my little brother, more so towards the end of my playing time just because between actually raiding and school I didn't have time to do dailies.

Anywho enough of the WoWholics Anonymous bullcrap. I think the sublimnal messaging is all with the person playing. Because yes I was addicted to the game, but not because of needing to be the best or death noises as I'm walking back to my corpse because some dumb level 65 paladin decide to hammer of gg me while I just stepped out of Sunwell. But because of the relationships I developed with these people, who to this day I still keep in contact with.

I played for the people, I actually DATED a guy or two that I met online, I developed a love my guild and as sappy as that sounds, I just played to have fun with them. Not because of some sort of conspiracy to get me to start a war with my fellow man.

-JR

[edit on 12-1-2009 by bandaidctrl]

Originally posted by smallpeeps
People shouldn't be afraid of the Illuminati card game.

Alrighty, I didn't mean to cause alarm that we're to fear the Illuminati card game. I do play Munchkin and Munchkin-Fu (both Steve Jackson games). As pointed out in the linked thread, I'm not claiming the creator is Illuminati, rather the source material he was using perhaps had some info that he or we may not have been aware of before coming from this kind of organization.

Originally posted by smallpeeps
Games like pokemon

Pokemon does not show the WTC and pentagon blowing up.

Originally posted by smallpeeps
or Yugi-oh or whatever, are much more dangerous.

Yugi-oh has some issues with possession and symbolism, but that'd be more appropriate for the other thread.

thats not what they say; they say something about you not making it back to your body and stuff about mountains; christian propoganda type stuff.

I don't play the game, but can anyone confirm that that's the original audio that you hear when your character dies on there?

And if it was proven that there was infact a subliminal message in there, would Blizzard not be committing a criminal offence by knowingly including it?

Edit to add: haha i know my name originates from Warcraft, that's because I used to play Warcraft 3 back in the day, though I've never even seen WoW being played.

[edit on 12/1/2009 by malganis]

Not so sure about any of that and here is why.

1. When pac-man was released on atari it had the same effect just less publicized. My best friends dad would just sit there for hours on end eating dots and never let us play because we might break it.

2. I did the same thing when I first got into games seriously. I think it was nintendo's Punch out I played for months on end every spare minute I had including getting up early and going to bed late, jumping up and down on the NES controller when playing contra (they were made nearly indestructible back then lol) swearing, throwing things etc. It's normal, same reaction when a woman drops a souffle lots of hard careful work for nothing in the end makes you mad.

3. I played WOW for 3 weeks and had a max level character all by soloing, max fishing, max crafting, maxed skill sets as far as it let me, end game guild invited me when they found out I maxed purely by soloing, then to top it off they tried to find a priest that could out heal me in the instances (I was a druid) only 1 ever beat me, 2 end game pieces of amour by the time I quit at the end of week three. The only thing I thought, "Man this is too easy and what is the point?"

I had played FFXI for 4 years and SWG from release until the CU before WOW. I kept playing FFXI after WOW and have no intention of ever playing WOW again.

WOW introduced people to MMO's because it was easy problem is everyone thinks it's fun because anyone can level and get whatever although sure there are a few things that use to be really rare but not sure now days.

Point being most of these people have never played a MMO before my first one was FFXI and talk about a rude awakening when first released, good luck soloing wasn't going to happen unless you unlocked and chose beastmaster. No point skipping school or taking off work because you might spend the whole time just looking for a party. The rewards were awsome but death was a potential 4 hour loss of xp and if you bought a charecter lol everyone knew it because if you didn't know exactly what you were doing you and chances are your whole party would die. Now days it's much easier however I spent 4 years playing that and still do every once in a while.

But WOW I think there is a lot more behind the reasons than a mere death scene suggestion.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by zephyrs]

A serious gamer knows its more beneficial to buy the gold instead of farming it...like you could spend 2months or $40 farming it, or just buy it...so its a golden commodity worth millions of dollars per year on tap for blizzard if they were selling it (and i sincerely believe they are)

Ill post the video when i find it...its on youtube, have a look


Please check your facts again because you are wrong on Blizard wanting people to buy gold. Blizard/mythic/SOE the big mmo makers all spend lots of money to find these gold sellers and have them removed from the game along with try and make it so they cant come back. Why would they do this you ask?

MMO's a very dependent on having an in game economy that functions much like RL economy's with supply and demand and they also need to worrie about inflation. There was a MMO called final fantasy online that was ruined because of gold sellers because they inflated the economy so bad that the normal players could not keep up with the prices for needed items. This has a giant impact on new subscribers because in a new game economy prices start very low as nobody really has money and the demand for items is limited as people find what they need. As time goes on the total money on the server goes up and so do prices but the new players are still making a low minimum wage when they start.

I have played lots of MMO including WoW and never bought gold and only new a few people who did. You can have your account banned for buying gold and games work hard to make items available through time not "gold" now.