Originally posted by undo
lol i remember one day, while playing my 76 priest (disc-holy), being challenged to a duel by a 76 rogue. i hadn't pvp'ed with the priest since she was 49. that rogue killed me in about 3 seconds flat. i was shocked how far my survivability had dropped from the 49 bracket, as a cloth wearer. it was then i knew i wouldn't be able to do the bg achievements with my priest and so i rolled a shaman.
[edit on 13-1-2009 by undo]

I've made a few rogues, got three of em to 70 and twinked my last one at 49 a while too, but now I've raised her to 72 (geez those levels get slow)

49 was fun in the latest patch, cheapshot followed by an eviscerate crit was usually a one hit kill. I whacked quite a few poor mages for 2600 damage, which at 49 cant be fun with around 1.5k hp.

But it sounds to me like you got hit by a rare ambush rogue, the ones who stack a ton of attack power, and now probably armour penetration as well. I reckon you shouldn't have let that discourage you since rogues are extremely weak vs healing classes.

The old perception is that rogues eat cloth, well not priests they dont, at least not since the level 60 cap days. Since we dont really do burst damage anymore, getting a rogue off you and getting some heals in isn't very difficult, any spec of priest should have an easy time with a rogue. And resto druid? forgeddabodit.

Incidentally there was this resto shaman I just couldn't beat in duels outside orgrimmar. I looked it up after and learned the harsh reality that rogues have an uphill struggle vs classes who constantly just heal themselves. 1vs1 at any rate.

Anyways everyone now is still hemo, and hemo didn't scale that well in WoTLK. Combat and mutilate still suck because they have bad mobility and survivability. Stuns are going to see upcoming nerfs which will reduce durations of all stuns. Rogues aren't going to have many viable specs left.

[edit on 14-1-2009 by Lazyninja]

Amazing how a conspiracy thread turns into one about WoW gameplay.

But since we are at it, there are a few quests in the game that require you to beat information out of someone or when you witness some NPC torture another NPC (sure it is a zombie but it is still torture and the zombie begs to stop). I dunno if the general ATS community knows about it but I am sure that would raise some eyebrows.

I wouldn't doubt there are subliminal messages put into WoW. The thing is there will always be people that will look for an escape, whether it be WoW, or drugs, or booze, or gambling. Those that have destroyed their lives through WoW, would have done so anyways with some other means if WoW was not around.

Yes I have a night elf death knight with 4/5 T7 so I to play the game. But I have made many friends playing WoW. It amazes me when I log on and not really play the game but talk to people about life issues and other stuff that are many times discussed on ATS.

[edit on 14-1-2009 by wutone]

=) That's nonsense.

This is the most retarded thing I've seen...


Well, considering what website this is, maybe not, but still.


Why is this retarded?
Well
1. I don't die that often, the only times I do die, is if I'm in a group doing an instance and we wipe. If that's the case, I'll get rezzed (meaning I dont hear that death sound)

2. Adding to #1, I die maybe once a week and have to walk back to my corpse - hearing that sound. So, what would the point be to put that in the game, knowing that players are not going to hear it often at all?

3. I just went in game and suicided and listened to that at max volume, and it's completely fake, that's not in there. It was made up.

Nice try.

Originally posted by Lazyninja
But yeah anyway I fully defend myself for that, I could have not done the quest as a moral protest. But Blizzard wouldn't care. And hell I got 20k exp for it.

The game is full of reward for conducting actions of questionable morality. I admit, there have been some quests I felt my character would not do because of his/her morals. Others, I had do because "they're shady like dat". In the end though, I have no warlocks and deleted my deathknight. I like pretending to be someone who always makes a good decision because in real life I've managed to botch up a few.

OK, you guys who think it is a conspiracy, stop playing the game and go back to watching brainless TV for hours on end because we all know TV is much safer for you and your children.
Some people spend $15 a month on WoW, others spend $15- $100 on a new game for some console or their computer.
I have played WoW on and off since it came out and generally just play for a few weeks at a time and then get bored with it and then stop playing for a few months. The only reason I go back is because I get bored of whatever other game/book/music/band/guitar I am bored with at the time. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. Sometimes I go back to WoW, sometimes I go back to something else, it depends.
Wow is also a social network similar to something like myspace in a sense. People have friends on there and that is how they "hang out" just like people who troll myspace for hours on end.
It is different strokes for different folks. Some people watch TV, others prefer to play WoW. Some people pay $100 month for cable, others pay $15 for WoW.

[edit on 14-1-2009 by Mike Shackled]

Originally posted by Lazyninja
I did that quest a couple of days ago. I had some very uneasy thoughts while I did that. I remember specifically how the npc questgiver said, that it was okay that I torture him since I wasn't affiliated with their faction. "A neutral third party"

Those quests are the ones I usually avoid.

One thing I have found in my 30 years of online life (yes, since 1980 and Compuserve) is that certain actions can have an impact on the psyche. They make you think... make you uncomfortable... make you feel really perked up. Depending on what you do just before you go to bed, this can have an impact on your sleep.

One of the funniest quests in the game is the one where you rescue "Harrison Jones" from the trolls. He basically beats up everything in your path and as you get out, the quest reports "Harrison Jones has successfully escorted you from (wherever it was.)"

I just roared with laughter. And he took the quick way out, too... no wandering over to mobs accidentally... just marched out and whacked everything in his way.

Lovely!

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by Lazyninja
But yeah anyway I fully defend myself for that, I could have not done the quest as a moral protest. But Blizzard wouldn't care. And hell I got 20k exp for it.

The game is full of reward for conducting actions of questionable morality. I admit, there have been some quests I felt my character would not do because of his/her morals. Others, I had do because "they're shady like dat". In the end though, I have no warlocks and deleted my deathknight. I like pretending to be someone who always makes a good decision because in real life I've managed to botch up a few.

Only the start death knight quests are messed up, where you kill the villagers while they beg for their lives and stuff, but other then that (if you follow the lore) they free their bounds of the evil death knight and embrace their dark power to do good, and serving the people they once slaughtered...as for warlocks, they're anti-light and wield demonic powers...so depending on your religious beliefs etc in R.L, it could question your personal morality

Good points, your avatar cracks me up by the way.

It is a good thing most of people are adult enough to know the difference between fantasy and reality so when there are things that challenge your morals, you know it is just a game and it does not really matter and you are mature enough and smart enough to know that.

I knew it. My friends tried to get me playing and i told them im not falling for it. Paying a monthly fee to play a game? Forget about it, its for the birds. But i guess the recessions is not as bad as cnn tells me if millions are burning that much money every month.