The World of Warcraft Conspiracy...Subliminal Messaging & Blizzard gold spammers!

I'm Mike, and i'm addicted to WoW. Sonofzeus(80 human lock on frostmane).

I play every night with my gf. She is also now addicted after introducing the game to her. Theola (71 lock frostmane).

The game world is continuous so you feel like you are always missing out on getting gear while the other guys get ahead. The game mechanics are addictive and there are several ties to the real world like extreme competitiveness, learning how to work as a team, working for reputation and respect, learning how to manage resources and money, learning how to prioritize things and create goals to work towards, etc. If you're young, you can choose to learn from these things and apply them to the real world, or you can let it overtake you. In ways it could be a learning tool, unless you let things get out of hand.

Well, back to my desktop pc, because that's where the action is!

i have played all the warcraft games and followed the lore. it is quite an excellent storyline. the game kinda bores me but my wife likes it so i play. if you listen to the spirit healer it is obvious that there is a barely discernable message there. but its not in english and it is different depending on where you die. some places you cant even hear it (like netherstorm)

Originally posted by SleeplessInUS
"Play World of Warcraft
Your money is my cure
Give us your money
That's right you customer"

That is the subliminal message that is addicting people to WoW and making them spend all their money on 'gold' for the ingame purpose of buying 'stuff'? I think they need to be a little more direct and maybe less winded to get the point across because I apparently am not getting the message. Besides.... this helps the company how?

I played EQ for 8 years and now am playing WoW going on two years. I play for 3 hours a week if that. IF there are subliminal messages in the game, I just dont think the above message is one of them. I will definately check it out when I log in again out of sheer curiousity but I have my doubts.

I play with the sound on and have never heard anything when I "die" in game... nor do I feel the urge to spend money at that point LOL. In fact, I often log out at that point.

sounds to me like the only people reiterating this belief are those that are angry at blizzard / EA for their own personal slaps from the company for going against their EULA and or ToS.

anyways... just my spare change.

I see your line of thinking, and it's the same line of thinking of most youtubers cuz there's spoof videos making fun of the subliminals, nobody seems to be taking it seriously, well I tried to make a serious vid, this is it:

www.youtube.com...

Just watch it and tell me what you think, I consider subliminals more dangerous than most I guess, but I take them seriously because I know they work, the unconcious mind isn't going to 'hear' information the same way the concious mind is, so not only do the sentances not need to be clearly heard they also don't need to make sense, considering how many millions Blizzard have made from this in my opinion mediocre game is proof to me that it probably has made some effect.

The subliminal may have been created by a subliminal expert who knew what they were doing, it may have been inspired by pure evil itself, or both, but we don't know, Blizzard may have paid a great deal to put this in the game or they might have thrown it in at the last second, it doesn't matter, it still could equally work just the same as an effective subliminal being harmful to those that play the game.

What could it mean, what could it do?

"Play World of Warcraft
Your money is my cure
Give us your money
That's right you customer", it could be saying 'Reliable customer' or 'Betray the customer', I don't know

but what it says is not what it means, we can only pick up a few words, we don't know how many words are in there, our unconcious mind can pick up what it is saying, and if heard countless times we can act upon those words, if I had to guess what the entire message is saying and trying to get players to do would be this.....

"World of Warcraft is more important than money, do anything to get money to play world of warcraft, the game is worth doing anything for to get money to keep playing"

An addictive heroine addicts mindset of wanting or NEEDING the game, that's what I think they put in there, do you know how many people are strangely over-addicted to this game? in porportion to how crappy it is, I've played many more interesting more addicting games than this, and even if it isn't an effective subliminal I can bet you, future mmorpgs will attempt to exploit this concept, in an attempt to become the next WoW.

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I have noticed while playing around the thunder ridge or whatever around Orgrimar, that the rocks and such form vague pornographic images if looked at in a certain angle.

I have quit playing though, otherwise I'd attach some various screenshot that I used to have that point out all the subliminal #.

reply to post by Griffo515


That youtube clip was pretty spooky. I've never played WoW, the idea of having to pay to play a single game (as opposed to something like X-Box Live, which is 60 bucks a year to play ANY multiplayer games you care to buy) really turned me off. Plus Diablo 2 is free

I imagine little messages like this are buried in all sorts of games and likely commercials on TV too. It doesn't bother me as long as the message is merely "play our game some more" and not "worship satan" or "kill yourself" or something truly sinister. Still kinda creeps me out though...

i'm not too worried about sublminals. where i get wracked outta shape is the obvious brokeness of some aspects of WoW. such as the fact alliance can't pvp for a crap till like 80. that means you have to wait till then to do all your battleground achievements or live in bgs nine hours a day for the next 2 years to get all the achievements (exalted at 10 honor pts a battle and 1 mark a battle ... should take a couple years to finish just THAT!) this means we who play allies are paying for a game that is only half available to us as a group in a battleground. not gonna happen. 3 years of WoW just went down the shooter. they shoulda never added battlegrounds to achievements. big mistake

i did the math.
you would have to do 7 wsgs, every day, non-stop,
to have 12 wins in a month, provided your ally group won that often. (i've seen it go upwards of 2 weeks without a single ally wsg win). the achievement for wsg alone is 100 wsg wins. it would take in the vicinity of nine months, playing every day, 7 wsgs, to make the 100 wins, and that's again, contingent on whether the 1 win in 14 games was consistent. (it's more likely to be 1 win in about 50 during the day and evening hours and 1 win in 14 in the early morning hours. so theoretically, about 2 years to finish just that achievement. but the story doesn't end there because there's also the rest of the battlegrounds and their achievements. since you can't possibly be on the game 24 hours a day for 2 years, you'll never be able to finish the battleground achievements as an ally before blizzard has shelved the current WoW for a newer version of itself.

long story short: allies will not be able to finish the achievements so there's really no logical reason to have battlegrounds on the alliance achievements list. can you spell BROKEN?)


of course, i'm one of those players who likes to finish things as she levels. levelling cooking, levelling fishing, levelling trade skills, getting achievements like fully exploring the areas where i'm currently levelling, etc. So naturally, it seems only logical to also get the achievements for the lowest level battlegrounds. Yeah, it may be logical, but pain is not something I enjoy.

So long Blizz.

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I've been playing WoW since a month after release (I didn't play in BETA) and have never noticed this but I'm not saying it's not there. Maybe I'll notice it now . Anyway as far as the addiction goes, yes, it is addictive but what I've had to do is take breaks about a month long here and there. I'm on one of those now as a matter of fact and truth be told I'm not sure when I'll start playing again. Still, for some reason, I just can't bring myself to cancel my account because that would mean deleting my favorite toon - my beautiful mage.... which of course means I'm paying $15/mo. to just hold her there. I think that's part of the strategy Blizzard uses - get people to invest years of their lives in developing a toon then they'll never have the courage to cancel their account. I'm afraid they've got me hooked for that reason alone.

By the way, that second video in the OP was ridiculous! Mom crying about her baby boy being addicted and violent yet she hasn't cancelled the account or disconnected the DSL???? Pleaaseeee.... give me a break!

This is coincidental with the sounds. You have to understand that a LOT of people that play World of Warcraft dont speak English as a first language.

Ooooh maybe the other voices say stuff in other languages ooooh?

Regarding the addictive nature of the game - Our human brain has "do it again circles" built in to it by nature. We will do things that we like, again and again, and nothing will stop us or deter us.

There is nothing wrong with 10million people liking a game so much that they spend $100 a month on it.

There are some people who like DRUGS and SEX a lot they spend nearly $500 a month on it.

At least Blizzard does something good with the money and developed STARCRAFT 2 !!!!!! =) =) ^_^

reply to post by Nick_X


wow is broken, atm. only horde can finish achievements. achievements are part of the end goals of the game now, just like levelling your character to maximum level and getting the latest and greatest tier armor. it's like telling half the players -- sorry, we know it's broken but we aren't going to fix it, cause at least half the players (horde) are fine with it and another quarter don't care about achievements (of course, there are those who don't even actively level. they just goof around, gab and collect junk to sell on ah, but that doesn't mean the game mechanics should be ignored).

that only leaves the quarter who do care and who also happen to not be horde. of that quarter, a hefty percentage never pvp or go to battlegrounds and are holding off on those achievements till the very end. when they realize they can't win often enough to make it worth their time and effort, there'll be big trouble in the land of azeroth.

reply to post by undo


You're wrong. WoW isn't broken, your server balance is broken. Quit whining and either quit the game or reroll horde, of xfer to a Battlegroup where your faction doesn't suck. Just a thought.

reply to post by Monger


Lol yeah...

Whenever my guild is involved in the BG, you can bet most horde characters will be wondering just how good the alliance has become.

We rock.

Ofcourse it's a conspiracy...

A conspiracy to waste your life and take your money!

reply to post by Monger


this is how it works:

new players make alliance chars.
they don't know how to pvp.
they join wsg (first battleground you can go in).
everyone dies.
repeatedly.
they get tired of being owned, so they buy nice gear.
and practice pvp. and learn tactics.
and go back to wsg. and die.
repeatedly. (because now, there are more new players who don't know how to pvp, etc. this goes on continuously).
it takes a team that knows what they are doing or a premade, to win 50 percent of wsg matches before like level 70.
the percentage of wins go up as you near max level (80)
but you don't have a chance in hell of winning it in the 30's bracket, often enough to finish the related achievements. (shouldn't the achievements for each bg be doable by the time you can go there? i mean, do allies need to be warned in advance to just avoid bgs altogether until they're level 80? . 19's are the only lower level bracket that can fluctuate wildly enough to allow a slightly improved win rate.

this data compiled from 3 different battlegroups.

and friend, i did quit. that's what SO LONG BLIZZ, means.

Not so perfect done.

Sub message need 2 trigers to make it work. You can listen this 5.000 times a week and cant work without 2nd triger.

So what is the 2nd triger in the game to activate subliminal before/after anchor?

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Monger
do allies need to be warned in advance to just avoid bgs altogether until they're level 80?

That's another mistake, players usually do. If you enter level 80 BG's, you still get pretty much owned by full epic pvp-geared players.

I don't play Wotlk, but when I was in BC, I capped level 69 to complete my S2 pvp gear so when I reached 70 with full S2/epic gear, I will have a decent fighting chance. level 69 or 79 is fine, nobody goes full epic at those levels and you can pretty much own anything, including twinks without problems.

reply to post by mr-lizard


pre-mades are a different story altogether. if you need to win 100 wsgs, you have to do an awful lot of wsgs to get that. best case scenario before 80, at least 200 to win 100. in the 30's bracket, no pre-made, alliance, we're looking at least 1000 (actually more) of wsgs to win 100.

reply to post by ahnggk


lol i remember one day, while playing my 76 priest (disc-holy), being challenged to a duel by a 76 rogue. i hadn't pvp'ed with the priest since she was 49. that rogue killed me in about 3 seconds flat. i was shocked how far my survivability had dropped from the 49 bracket, as a cloth wearer. it was then i knew i wouldn't be able to do the bg achievements with my priest and so i rolled a shaman.

shaman have no crowd control and no freedom of movement skills. you gotta get the hits in while you can and make them count cause stun, nova, dot dot, nuke, assassinate and it's all she wrote.

now that i think about it, WoW is a torture device.

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reply to post by Griffo515


I'm sorry, but having played it for a number of times and died a number of times, that clip that you showed simply doesn't sound anything like the one in game. Sure it sounds very similar, and I'll give you that, but there were some key differences (in the pitches for example when they were "talking") that I simply said "nuh uh, I don't remember that in the game" It could very well be that somebody has edited the original (hence why I say it sounds very similar) OR, because I haven't played the last 4 months, it might be a new "death sound" that was added while I was gone.

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
I played wow for about 2 years, and quit about three weeks ago. I began to suspect subliminal messaging when i ended up having about 8 wow related dreams since i quit. All of the dreams focused on me reactivating my account.

That just means you've played too much WoW.
I've read a number of Question comics, and am in a sense almost "addicted" to the character, not because of subliminal messaging, but because I really like the story. Heck, I've even made my own mask. I've already had several dreams where I either am the Question's sidekick, or I take on the mantle of the Question. Should I sue DC for "subliminal messaging"? or simply acknowledge that it was a dream affected by certain circumstances? and not consider it to be some kind of hypnosis? (which is what subliminal messaging is in essence)

Originally posted by undo
i dunno. there may or may not be something to the conspiracy angle. for me, this song (the soundtrack music for the draenei city of exodar), elicits feelings of nostalgia about my kids and husband when they and i were all younger. it's really quite unexplainable.

I get the same feeling from the Exodar soundtrack, i think it may have a lot to do with the calming light blue and pinkish crystaline terrain of that area...and by the way that was the Azuremyst Isle sound track you linked, not the Exodar one.

Originally posted by Cyprex
The only thing creepy about this game is The Stepford Children of Goldshire. Creepy indeed.

I found them myself one time! i was like WTF...kids standing in a pentagram?

Originally posted by bandaidctrl
What I think is funny, is how this post jumped to 8 pages and everyone posting here got all excited.

Then we start talking about in-game things...


It reminds me of me whenever i see someone wearing the Horde t-shirts...it's the impulse to yell FOR THE HORDE!!...which I do on occasion ...>.>

Funny that, its amazing how many people here actually play WoW, very quickly it sqewed from the topic to "how awesome the game is" or "how much better i am than you in WoW" lol...