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North Korea making bellicose threat of nuclear war

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posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Facefirst
Uhhh, Cheney happens to be visiting. Just an attention ploy by the Lil' Kim Posse.

We are not headed for a nuke war. Everytime an American heavy visits the region, just like a pissed off chimp, N.Korea starts banging on cage hoping for a treat and some attention.

You can almost set your watch to them....


Don't tell Muaddib that, we need to take the threat of NK nuking the US seriously. LOL. They are a joke, their leader is a child molester wanna be playboy. Their army might be large but it is under paid and under fed. They prolly do have nukes. You really think they'd have the balls to use them? What happens if they use them? Maybe they pray that they wiped out enough of the US so that we don't hit umm back? # we have enough nukes to blow up half the planet just on subs. So what would be the point of them nuking us? They would all die too.

I'm really not going to lose any sleep over it.




posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 09:50 AM
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Don't tell Muaddib that, we need to take the threat of NK nuking the US seriously.


Did i say that they would use their nukes against us? or did i say we must lose sleep over this?

Please point me to where i say this. I really doubt that the NK can even hit us with a nuke, but there are other countries close to them, that's the problem.

If the US and other countries thought like you, we wouldn't be giving a damn what NK says and noone would be doing anything about it.

And since when being cautious means being paranoid?
I actually applaud the international community for being cautious with NK, that means they have a common sense.



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Muaddib

And since when being cautious means being paranoid?
I actually applaud the international community for being cautious with NK, that means they have a common sense.


I agree that we should be cautious with NK, but outside of the looney-factor(ala Dr. Strangelove), they are not going to nuke anybody. The Nuke is NK's only playing card and they can only use it once. And they know they are f*cked if they do. Lose it all or bang on the cage? Lil' Kim loves his Cognac and porn way too much to piss it all away. That being said, I am more worried about a NK indirect threat of terrorists using WMDs supplied by Lil' Kim. (aka Stumpy)

Don't lose too much sleep over a direct NK attack. Worry more about who they do business with.

IMHO, they are kind of like a poor man at a high stakes poker game. They might have a great hand, but unlike the rich players, they cannot afford any loss.

[Edited on 10-4-2004 by Facefirst]



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 01:11 PM
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I have to unfortunatly take Li' Kim's escapades seriously for several reasons.

1. The possibility that he sells or provides WMD to a proxy like al-Quaida, it does'nt necessarily have to be used on the US to cause havoc, could be almost any large western city. He has a track record of selling weapons all over the world once in production. Proving he gave WMD to a third party may be difficult and even if we did would it be believed or would many claim we are just using it as a premise to go after Kim?

2. The Koreans have a much longer view of history than western civilization and he might see himself having a place in that history. It is well known that Kim does not care about what happens to his people, but the party apparatus and key military forces have extensive underground complexes to evacuate to in the case of retalitory strikes.

If Kim see's checkmate on his board in relation to an invasion of the south using WMD as an opening gambit he can rely on several calculations such as the fact that political constraint will hold back the US from retaliation on Pyong Yang and his military forces because it was not a direct attack on the US. China and Russia although PO'd at Kim for using WMD, would not stand for the US using its weapons in a country bordering both nations - Kim knows this and I think this is what holds him from initiating a direct attack on US fleet and forces in that theater as well as CONUS.

This possibility is one of the chief reasons US forces in Korea have been shifted to a rearward position, So they would'nt be taken out on surprise attack and to prevent a nuclear conflagration in response. I think this step was taken partly as a step to assuage Chinese fears of nuclear war on the peninsula. In the earlier force position we would have had almost no option but to retaliate because of public anger here in the U.S.

3. Kim see's himself going down due to internal and/or external influence and he decides to use everything in his arsenal in a last gasp effort to grasp at power. This is the impetus for china to get Kim to the negotiation table, they know he's unstable and possibly unpredictable. If Kim makes his move to soon Chinese strategy would suffer an upset because their force modernization is not complete and they would not be in position to capitalize. If Kim can last a few years longer its the chinese that will pull the rug out from under him to prod just this scenario.

Trying to figure out where Kim is on the board and what action to take or not take makes him very dangerous to U.S. interests. Just because he so far has'nt carried out his threats does not make him the paper tiger that some think he is. One of these days we're not going to take him seriously when he is.



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 01:37 PM
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I agree with Pheonix on this one.
Kim sees himself as a God. He expects his subjects to treat him as a God.

Now we have this nut with nukes, if he thinks he is going to lose power, why not use those nukes. He has no regard for history or anyone but himself. He is by far the most dangerous person on the planet today.

There is no religion to control him, no other nations truly supporting him and his people are starved into submission. He allows millions to die so he can use food money to build bigger bombs.

Saddam was bad, he was also an easy target. He did not have nukes so the threat was limited. Kim can hit S. Korea, Japan or according to some estimates, the western US or Hawaii.

We do need to worry about him. I agree he just rattles his cage whenever one of our big wigs is in the area, that does not mean he is any less dangerous though.

I read the DPRK news briefs every day and if you follow them it shows they are ready for a significant end event, he just has nothing to lose.



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 04:30 PM
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I doubt North Korea is just gonna attack the U.S. but then again Kim might have a couple of friends in China cause I remember China helped NK in the Korean War way back in the fifties. I just wonder if Russia would take a side.



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by nativeokie
I agree with Pheonix on this one.
Kim sees himself as a God. He expects his subjects to treat him as a God.

We do need to worry about him. I agree he just rattles his cage whenever one of our big wigs is in the area, that does not mean he is any less dangerous though.


I never said he was not dangerous. His treatment of the NK people has shown that to be true. But history has shown over and over again that people with egos that large are truly scared of losing it all. (Saddam hiding in a hole with 100K in USD seems like a similar possible fate for Lil' Kim) He won't use the nukes directly, his ego is much to large to piss away his kingdom. (no more blonde models and Mercedes bling!)

As I mentionted earlier, I agree that NK selling WMDs to certain US enemies is a far scarier possibility as well as a much more likely scenario. In that capacity, Lil' Kim is much more dangerous to not only the US, but the world over. There needs to be an old fashioned CIA or MI5 "accident" with one of his sports cars. "Watch out for that cliff Lil' Kim!!!!"



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 04:39 PM
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Just remember Lil' Kim is like a fad he's gonna fade out in a couple of years and then when everyone forgets about him he might try to get back in, kind of like Pokemon Cards. But you give an unstable child moelestor a couple of nukes and a bad hair style he might just over due the whole attention thing. Now if say China and Russia openly oppose him then thats enought to get a coalalition to disarm him. Remember the world of threating each other with nukes is fake just like wrestling. They never do what they say their gonna do.



posted on Apr, 10 2004 @ 04:42 PM
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Yeah that would be cool if MI6 did what they did in Die Another Day (Blow up lots of enemy sports cars and ruin a guys face with a box load of diamonds)



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