Israel's Wall in the West Bank

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posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Alot of people are unaware that Israel even has a wall, let alone that its waaaaaaaaaayyyy bigger than the Berlin wall...

www.vtjp.org...

that wall also violates international law, something Israel obviously feels it has the right to violate...




posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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wow, not one person willing to voice an outrage? a "i agree wholeheartedly with the wall"? or even an aknowledgement?

I think i may have outdone myself here, (takes a bow)



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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The wall has been on overwhelming success for Israel in defending itself from suicide attacks. Quite astonishing how successful really. This doesn't mean it's right, but when the buses were being blown up on a regular basis, there was no other option. From an Israeli security perspective incredibly effective.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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It's more of a barrier system than a wall. Only 5% of the barrier is an actual concrete wall. 95% of the length is made up of chain link fencing with barbed wire at the top. Everyone loves showing the images of a concrete wall, but this only makes up a small portion of what the barrier is.



Some sections (less than 5% of total length) are constructed as a wall made up of concrete slabs up to 8 m in height and 3 m in width. ...

Wall construction (5%) is more common in urban settings, such as areas near Qalqilyah and Jerusalem, because it is narrower, requires less land, and provides more protection against snipers.

en.wikipedia.org...


This is what 95% of the barrier looks like.



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posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 02:05 AM
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originally posted by: Grock
wow, not one person willing to voice an outrage? a "i agree wholeheartedly with the wall"? or even an aknowledgement?

I think i may have outdone myself here, (takes a bow)


It took over 6 years but you finally managed to get a star and flag for your OP.
Now it may be time for all those who found this wall to be normal or acceptable to realise what for a policy it helped enforcing. Silence is the weapon of the hypocrites.



posted on Mar, 2 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

I also did add one star and flag...(now everyone knows)

here's JFK speaking "clearly" about the sphere of influence by Israel in the world


aftermath for JFK we all know...

"an error don't became a mistake until we refuse to correct it"



posted on Mar, 2 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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Northern Ireland has a wall too, keeps Protestants and Catholics apart.



posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 07:42 AM
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That wall might, perhaps has, saved lives and property, so I agree with it, Northern Ireland has a wall too, comments?



posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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Actually yes I agree and it needs finished. It would stop any further land takeover Israel haters keep bringing up and yet keep trouble out.
Why though there are things called tunnels even from Mexico to the US. I always thought we should have a Wall there as well. Better then snipers my 2nd option.

Countries should be able to defend their boarders by any means necessary. A Wall is better then other options.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: pikestaff
a reply to: Connman

Providing an other example of a problem is interesting if you want to illustrate another problematic situation.
Providing an other example of a problem to make a problem looks like a normal situation is pathetic.

You probably consider that walls have been part of the normal process going along with human civilization : when the humans became sedentary, walls or fences became mandatory in order to prevent the cattle from running loose. Then city walls, even the great wall of China, the Atlantic wall and the Maginot line, the Berlin wall, ... Most are now obsolete, dismantled or irrelevant. Have the places they once 'protected' abandoned all hope to live in peace, or is it just that they don't need them anymore ?

Why do you need a wall ? To prevent the problems you don't want, or have no apparent interest, to solve ? Your interest into a specific problem should rely on your ambition to avoid the side effects of it's 'cure' as well as its original symptoms - but for that you must have an interest real in peace.
Why build a wall to protect yourself and, at the same time, put in place a harassment policy :
The operational logic behind terrorizing Palestinians



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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The Pro-Israeli brigade will be here any minute.



posted on Apr, 27 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Boeing777
The Pro-Israeli brigade will be here any minute.


... or maybe not? I mean, what is this thread about, what's it arguing for or against? Just another flimsy attempt to whip up anti Israeli or anti Jewish sentiments with a reminder that there's a wall in Jerusalem?



posted on Apr, 27 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

Or a flimsy attempt to let everyone open their eyes on an issue that is plaguing the entire middle-east ...
Please discover what a Jewish journalist has to deal with when experiencing the benefits of the wall from the Palestinian side :

The long road to Bethlehem
The long road to Bethlehem: Part two

Sorry if you find the ostrich policy more pleasant but, even in Israel, there are people who start to worry :

The Disaster Both Judaism And Israel Will Not Survive



...

The story here is not only the fact that for so many, Judaism “outranks” democracy in importance, though that is a disturbing situation in itself. The crux of the matter is that for the majority of Israel’s citizens the belief that the two of them can exist simultaneously is becoming increasingly impossible. The tragedy, then, is that, as in the Western world, in Israel, too, more and more people consider “Judaism” and “democracy” to be mutually exclusive entities.

The debacle here is above all cultural: It concerns the failure of Israeli society to forge a Judaism that is substantively democratic, a Judaism that self-evidently does not contradict democracy but, on the contrary, buttresses it. Instead, Judaism is being shaped as a violent ethnic identity, a Spartan religion of a nation of masters, an atavistic, nationalist entity, which instead of conducting a dialogue with modernity is choosing to divest itself of liberal traits it had already internalized, including some that were always ingrained in it.

This cultural debacle will become a historical disaster if, heaven forbid, Israel truly becomes exclusively “Jewish” in the future. Democracy will obviously suffer in that case, and along with it the population between the Jordan and the sea. A terrible period will ensue, but as with every past tyranny, this one, too, will collapse. When that happens, the true tragedy will be revealed: It will emerge that for the whole world, Judaism has become synonymous with apartheid and occupation, violence and oppression, despotism and subjugation.

Judaism has survived many disasters. This is one disaster it will not survive.



In case you wonder what for lunatic wrote these lines :



Dr. Tomer Persico is a fellow at the Elyachar Center for Studies in Sephardi Heritage at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, and teaches in the religious studies program at Tel Aviv University.





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