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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 05:54 PM by platoslab


Originally posted by Lasheic
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Question: How do the authors of the site explain the presence of an iron surface on the Sun in contrast to the recorded temperatures of the surface which are hot enough to vaporize iron? Further, we've observed sunspots moving at different speeds across the surface - indicating that the equator rotates faster than the poles.

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Did you read the forum you linked to? The author (Michael Mozina from thesurfaceofthesun.com...) clearly explained his observations which were based on satellite data. I can see no major flaw in his analysis since they are consistent with the images and known physics. However, the gas model is not supported by current satellite observations therefore it cannot be accurate.

We should not forget the scientific method if we want scientific truth. Observations rule!

The iron layer should be below the photosphere and insulated by other elements protecting it from the extreme heat. Satellite data clearly shows that there is a lot of iron(iron arcs, solar moss).

There are satellite images that prove the equator does not rotate faster than the poles.

Highest heat measured originates from the outer gas layers! This observation is contrary to the gas model which asserts that main fusion reactions occur in the core. This evidence is enough to debunk the gas model. All of the real magic is happening on the outer gaseous layers! This should be obvious to NASA but somehow they continue to peddle the gas model and obfuscate it with theoretical nonsense.

I wonder, why would NASA want to hide the sun's true fusion processes from the public?


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reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 02:06 AM by zorgon


Originally posted by Lasheic
You might want to take a look at this forum, where the author of the webpage you're referencing is debating other posters FAR more knowledgeable that most people you'll find here.


Sorry but 'bad astronomy forum is hardly worth the time of day... especially since they screen posters that don't agree with their views And insulting ATS member intelligence levels is hardly a way to win an argument around here


He claims to have submitted his paper for peer-review, and I would be interested to hear the results of this.


Papers...

Los Alamos National Lab Archives
Observational Confirmation of the Sun's CNO Cycle
arxiv.org...

The Surface (Ferrite Layer) Of The Sun
thesurfaceofthesun.com...

The Surface (Ferrite Layer) Of The Sun (long version)
thesurfaceofthesun.com...

I browsed some of the skeptic responses and they ALL are confusing the 'surface' of the sun with the surface of the protosphere....

That would be like us saying the surface of the earth or the surface of the atmosphere....

Here is a very clear picture from the website... the black layer is the iron surface deeper down where its not as hot... Ferrite = Iron




Ferrite or alpha iron (α-Fe) is a materials science term for iron, or a solid solution with iron as the main constituent, with a body centred cubic crystal structure. It is the component which gives steel and cast iron their magnetic properties, and is the classic example of a ferromagnetic material.

Practically speaking, it can be considered pure iron. It has a strength of 280 N/mm2[citation needed] and a hardness of approximately 80 Brinell.[1] Ferrite can be strictly defined as a solid solution of iron in body-centered cubic (BCC) containing a maximum of 0.03% carbon at 723 °C (1,333 °F) and 0.006% carbon at room temperature.


en.wikipedia.org...(iron)





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reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 02:23 AM by Buddyweiser


I feel this is the most real theory I have ever heard it scares a lot of people but that is to be expected. Religious people will go nuts because well lets face it there nuts, and cant handle the truth.



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reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 02:15 PM by greshnik


I am not sure what "religion" you are talking about - I am Christian Orthodox (original Christians) and there is nothing wrong with true science. I actually think that the theory of expanding Earth is well founded and very interesting.



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