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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:48 PM by alienj
reply to post by MsSmartypants


Hate to be the bear of bad news, but if the earth was so small at one time, and there were only shallow seas and no ice covered poles, where di all the water come from the fills the deep oceans. The water mass alone on the planet today would have made the earth a water world. Sorry to pull the plug on this... water didnt just show up out of nowhere..



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 12:38 AM by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by Waldy
If there were no oceans and just shallow waters there must have been less water. Also this theory does not explain where all the GIANT sea monsters of the Jurassic period were living. To become giant in the oceans you need ALOT of space and ALOT of food. So if there were just shallow waters...

...where did this monster live?



Article

And this monster that ruled the oceans about 150 million years ago.



A creature, which measured 20 meters (65 ft) from nose to tail, and weighted up to 150 tons.







I don't think it's a question of where that monster lived, it's more a question of where is that monster? Do they have a fossil record of that animal or is it just a theory?

edit: Never mind, I will try reading the article first next time instead of after. I see that they found a fossil in Antarctica.

Peace

[edit on 12-1-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 12:50 AM by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by zorgon
And for all you religious types that believe in Noah's ark and the flood that covered the entire Earth...

Care to tell me where all that water went?



Now our Earth is porous like a sponge... acid in the water is leaching out limestone caves and causing sinkholes every where Southern Florida is swiss cheese with houses sinking all the time...

Now if all that water goes below ground as the earth expands and make more air pockets... maybe we will finally have the answer to what happened to the water on Mars?




Enjoy


Actually Zorgon, this theory better explains the ark then does the current one. It says that, before Noah went into the ark it had never rained only a mist (subterranean water boiling?) came up from the ground and watered the face of the earth until the foundations of the deep were "rent", so that the water was coming up from the crust as well as from the sky, but perhaps it wasn't actually coming from the sky, perhaps because there was such a rapid release in the subterranean boiling water that it collected very fast in the upper atmosphere like steam on a glass window. That being said, the water of the oceans now is the water in question after running off of the land.

It could actually be that when the water was "abated" the earth was growing, although this would be some pretty rapid growth, but then again Noahs ark wasn't a boat, it was a coffin and tombstone made so that God (the living) would remember it, but that is another story.

Just a thought.

Peace


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 02:17 AM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by MsSmartypants


I came across this theory a couple months ago, at first glance it seems compelling. I suppose the Earth could be growing, but it would have to be at super-slow speed because otherwise structures like the Pyramids wouldn't retain their alignment to North, South, etc... The main problem I have with the idea is the oceans, as the Earth grows the water seems to miraculously appear, but what could cause water to just come into existence? Dinosaurs could easily exist without a reduction in gravity. I suppose it could be true, but I have my doubts...


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 03:01 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by TheRealDonPedros


Actually large size was due to the higher Oxygen content present on the earth during the time of the dinosaurs.



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 04:38 AM by Lasheic
reply to post by ThreadTrekker




As for where the new the matter comes from, Carey speculates that it is due to quantum fluctuations at the center of the earth where gravity acceleration approaches zero (a Newton-Hubble null).


This is absolute nonsense. First, please define what the "Newton-Hubble null" for us. I did a quick google search of the term, and I only got one page of links. Only one of the links on that page lead to anything resembling a description of this phenomena. Surprise surprise, it was a Google Books exert from the very same Samuel Carey book you're mentioning.

Tsk. Tsk. Sounds to me like he's just making @#$! up as he goes along in order to substantiate a claim which has no evidence.

Further, gravitational acceleration is not zero at the center of the Earth. To US it would seem that way, but that's only because we're traveling at the same orbital velocity. The Earth, and everything on it, is still very much acted upon by the Sun's gravity well. This gravity is what keeps us in orbit around the Sun, rather than flinging off out into space. Further, we're also experiencing gravitational tugs from the Moon, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, ... all of the planets, and all of the stars in the sky. Remember, we're still in an orbit around a GALACTIC central point. The gravitational effects we feel from these sources may range from minor to so extremely minute as to the point of being practically non-existent... but it is certainly not "zero" or even close to approaching zero.

His theory would depend upon on Earth being a closed system. It's not. Never was. Never will be.

Whatever his geological credibility may be, he is certainly no physicist.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 05:28 AM by apex
Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
Perhaps the matter is just being redistributed. There are two options here one of which has already been covered (additional mass due to cosmic collisions), the other is the obvious fact of volcanic eruption displacing matter from inside the earth to the surface. This would make the earth bigger, but the mass would stay the same. I am no scientist so it's just a thought.


Yes, it would mean the Earth is higher in that location. Everywhere else it will stay the same. Erosion will then reduce the height again anyway, and the weight of the new land will probably cause itself to be lower anyway(not sure about this, but it makes sense).

This theory has a lot of problems with it. Ignoring the mass problems (unless we are seriously suggesting some sort of vacuum energy/mass system naturally occurring within every planet, star, moon, etc) there is still the problem that since gravity is related to mass, the gravity of the early earth would be 1/8th of what it is now. Though the smaller size would mean a smaller distance, so 1/2th of now, but I think that would have a large effect on the atmosphere.

Additionally, there is the problem of explaining away the evidence for plate tectonics. Firstly, subduction volcanoes like the Cascades, the Andes, The rest of the Ring of Fire etc would not exist without this. As well as that, without continental drift the Hawaiian chain would be a single island - if in fact Mantle plumes were able to exist in such an expanding world. In fact, in this case Yellowstone would also be a stationary object, rather than an apparent chain there instead.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 05:45 AM by Anonymous ATS
Crustal age map:
www.ngdc.noaa.gov...

You can download it free in various formats. It clearly shows the age of the seafloor around the globe and its quite easy to see that the earth is growing and the growth rate seems to be increasing. Theres also few places where I atleast had problems figuring out these subduction zones I was told about in school, around the southpole for example.
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