Originally posted by EvilTwin666
reply to post by Mr Green
what a load of new age propaganda,
As stated the search for enlightenment goes back even pre Buddha, it is probably to be found around 60,000 or 70,000 years ago with the first Shamans,
who were on the path but took a little detour just before reaching the source.
its laughable looking at some of the comment people have been leaving,
I am glad you have found Joy, that is the secret and all encompassing aim, when no matter what manifests, what is happening in your life, either
physically or externally you are still full of Joy and Love.
When fully enlightened you can laugh at all things that happen to you as you see them as they really are. Constant happiness and love for all.
I have experienced quite prolonged times of this, lets say more than seconds or just sitting, but never through an entire day to next of this, and
never been able to make it 24/7 but one day, as others have and continue to do it is my aim.
illuminati means enlightened ones
I know the Buddhist society should sue the Bankers for copyright breach don't you think?
so can you really vision george bush meditating
Apparently he did didn't he ever night pray and hear voices from a God who told him to Blow up innocent civilians, you see when not trained right,
and with an experienced Guide as you say you can become insane.
and shaking flowers,
Daisy cutters I think they were called yes, that though can never be found in true meditation, that is the desire to do that, magik yep, or controlled
Ego/Will from but not true meditation as many of the posts have pointed out already.
you've been sold a load of nonsense
No one sold me anything I looked, searched and had to ask lot's of times, prove my commitment and worth before getting many teachings, with no money
and your eating it up like a bunch of fools.
You are what you eat as they say, and certainly this food has been bitter and hard to swallow sometimes! the ego does not want to be controlled or
subjegated. In fact you bring up an ancient Zen Teaching!
It's Like eating a Ball of hot iron
When you find the truth it is difficult at first, as in the ball of hot iron, you cant swallow it it will burn you stomach, you cant keep it in your
mouth, it is too hot, but you cant spit it out either as it is to important to lose. This is how the Ego and mind react to very profound truths, as
you know to integrate them fully it means you cant be fake anymore, and have to make really massive changes in your life and behaviour.
you will never become self aware if you follow this foolish talk
Um well I know I have! so how can you speak for my experience? how many thoughts have you actually seen arise, really properly?
How many times have you experienced no subject or object?
How many times have you known your true motivation before you speak or act?
How many times have you breathed whilst reading this?
Im getting more self aware all the time thank you, and others have for millenia and continue to do so daily.
but you will find your way to the nearest mental hospital
Certain teachings and yogic practises can send you a bit loopy within the constraint's of modern society, unless you are able, ready and do the
ground work first, this is why a Teacher who has experienced this path themselves is needed. This is why many of the traditions are passed on only
orally and kept secret. The Kundalini texts being released have done much harm indeed, however teachers are there and if done properly the opposite is
achieved, in fact the madness of the illusion and dream state is worn away day by day.
I know this too from much experience working within the Mental Health Field myself
and before any one jumps on me then i would tell you to take a good look at what you have been writing and ask yourself is this normal,
I suppose it depends on what country, society and epoch you base the norm on?
Why would I want to be normal anyway?
an idealism that has no facts that is completely unfounded.
Its a science and way of life, with many facts, and has been repeated many millions of times by humans for Millenia. And that's the crux every thing
is Ideal and perfect already its only our greed, desire and anger or ego's, "this" and "that" that make us think otherwise
You are feeding off each other when you should be seeking psychiatric help
Discussing is not feeding, and no one has trolled yet on this thread.
Who would I seek this help from Myself?
Just to be sure if I approached an old colluege and said listen I am interested in finding out how my mind works, controlling it, and meditating, do
you think I need to get referred or sectioned, get Bio Chems done?
What do you think their answer would be?
It certainly is not going to be "yep go to ward 4 with all the NLP guys, hypnotists, therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists and advertising men"
[edit on 24-3-2009 by MischeviousElf]