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Obama Says Will Move Swiftly On New Iran Approach

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posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 07:38 AM
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Obama Says Will Move Swiftly On New Iran Approach


www.alertnet.org

WASHINGTON, Jan 11 (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Barack Obama said on Sunday he will take a new approach toward Iran that will emphasize respect for the Iranian people and spell out what the United States expects of its leaders.

"Iran is going to be one of our biggest challenges," Obama said in an interview with ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

"We are going to have to take a new approach. And I've outlined my belief that engagement is the place to start," he said.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 07:38 AM
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That freaking guy is up to war against Iran... Surprise, surprise?

I just post another breaking news, about "Bush already started secret war against Iran" ... But yesterday I hit myself with more breaking news!

Most smoking gun is coming out to MSM any moment. It was very accident, that I even get my hands to this report yesterday, and then I posted it yesterday here... Seems like people in here havent really understand value of this founding yet!

Iranian Nuclear Program is for Military Purpose; French Information Mission
www.belowtopsecret.com...

( WTF? - Why its on below top secret? )

Just look to the big picture - The Media Hype... French are now gathering status as "peace makers" in region, right? After this "false message" is shown to world, then those "peace makers" will confess suddenly; "Yep! Iran has nukes... They are after to those!"

Hell will break loose then - And its all about timing - So what is coming next in Operation Cast Lead?

Obama will cooperate then with french - with that "great opposing" ally towards war in Iraq - "this time" together against Iran... And of course UK and EU is then highly involved then.

I think we will have some kind of "Operation Joint Lead" soon.

Welcome to WW3. Or how about revolution in DC? - Its up to you guys now...



www.alertnet.org
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 11-1-2009 by JanusFIN]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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I will post "Iran aiming to nukes" article in here... ( I want all of you to understand where we are heading right now. Sarkozy is playing double faced conspiracy game in Egypt now. He is acting like negotiator, but he have these report in his pocket, "damned!" )


A 10-month French parliamentary mission led to the conclusion that the Iranian nuclear program is for military purpose too, an official report read. After ten months of work, the French parliamentary mission (original report in french) gained a few certainties, including the belief that the Iranian nuclear program continued military objectives.
"No need for another war, the danger is real and multifaceted. The darkest scenarios have been developed by some experts to sensitize policymakers of the danger Iran with nuclear weapons would be."
"This perspective is far from a dream and the danger is real and multifaceted, it is necessary to stay aware but to keep one's cool. Neither the Middle East nor the world need another war."
The Mission believes that if diplomacy is currently in a deadlock, there are still opportunities and it is the only way forward. For instance, the Supreme Leader Khameinei recently demanded more restraint on behalf of the Iranian president Ahmadinejad.
Like the worst, the best is never safe. However, several developments acquired, pending or probable, should help to foster a genuine dialogue with Iran, which would allow progress towards resolving the nuclear crisis and fully reintegrate Iran into the international community.

www.isria.info...

And what is the timetable?



Obama-Bush Teams To Stage 'Disaster' Exercise
www.abovetopsecret.com...&flagit=426585

Anytime soon...

[edit on 11-1-2009 by JanusFIN]

[edit on 11-1-2009 by JanusFIN]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 07:54 AM
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Well what he said is encouraging but it wise not to believe what leaders say. I think there has been way too much ground work done for a war with Iran and I would be surprised if it didn't happen. Of course before it can be happen they need to be clearly established as the bad guys and not just in the US but the rest of the world. This will be Obama's job because of his popularity worldwide. I predict he will try negotiations with Iran which are sure to fail and when that happens Iran will be seen as unreasonable and then we will find out intelligence that will make them an imminent threat. Or something alone those lines but whatever they do I'm sure they will do a better job selling this war then they did with Iraq, they will have to. People have opened there eyes since then.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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The US economy is in shambles, the US military is really overextended and tired of fighting in the streets of desert cities, most of the Anerican people want to end the war and Obama has spent the last 1+ years riding on the "Change" campaign. Obama has been saying for a long time that he wanted to talk to Iran. By "broader engagement" they mean more diplomacy. Believe it or not, the simple act of having a sit down and talking with the US is considered to be a valuable act for many nations.

The only way we will go to war with Iran is if Iran strikes first and it would have to be a something big like a nuclear bomb going off in Israel or an all out offensive into Iraq. Neither will happen. Maybe a year or so ago when our economy was decent ideas for putting Iran on the chopping block sounded like a good idea, but now I think that the Iranians have been pushed aside since our economy began its downward spiral.

Also, the military that would be needed to take Iran does not exsist. To go into Iran we would need the draft and right now the people in the US would burn this country down. Iran is not as weak or as small as Iraq was. We have been bombing Iraq and imposing sanctions on that nation since the early 90s. It would probably take a huge portion of our military to control Iran and spend the next 50 years dodging suicide bombers.

The American people are tired of it all and Obama would be burned at the stake if he even dared to do a pre-emptive strike on Iran after all his "Change" rhetoric. We the people are very tired of the BS and we really do want change.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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You do realise how the US recovered from the great depression? WW2. What's interesting is many people have been saying war with Iran was imminent for ages but I was never one of them. It simply wasn't possible before because of the lack of political power Bush had and to a lesser extent the situation in Iraq and lack of urgency. The economic crisis created the urgency for a large scale war and the election of Obama created the political power. Anyway I doubt we will have to wait more then a year from now to find out.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by Jacob08]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:18 AM
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I dont see any negotiations will come... Like you said - Iranians know that too.

Why would they join negotiations which is only to give them bad picture? Obama is the greatest false ever made by USA. Blindness to see what that guy really is, just gives US enemies more reasons to hate USA.

What I see is that Iran, Syria, Lebanon., Pakistan... Maybe many other nations are stepping out from UN soon - because its only a tool for Zionist purposes. UN made their final agreement with Israel - and soon I see that UN will break apart. Any moment now.

We all see that USA has been greatest threat for UNs future for almost decade now, and when UN is falling, anything wont stop that from happening.

Just look these breaking news from Syria!

Syrian newspapers critical of UN Gaza resolution

State-run newspapers in Syria have criticized a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hamas leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.

www.iht.com...

And day before yesterday Iran starts take huge steps out from UN...

Ahmadinejad: UN has lost credit over Gaza crisis
www.earthtimes.org...

With support of China - maybe even SCO, world is going to different ways...

Foreign ministers of Iran and China discuss Gaza crisis
www.isna.ir...

There is no way back - Gaza 911 is done




posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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You do realise that WW2 occured when most of the people in the US were poor farmers who probably earned more as a soldier in the army than they did planting crops? Also, the massive industrialisation of the US for the war effort allowed for the exspansive consumerism that you can see occured after the war. Today, this can not happen. There is no room for more consuming by the people. TVs, houses, cars, refridgerators, ice cream machines, modern washers and dryers, and many other new products came out of factories at a very cheap price after the war and the people had cash to buy them. Today most people already have many of these things. That is why we boomed then and won't now. It wasn't the war specifically, it was the products that could be made in converted war factories.

As we have seen over the last eight years, war is not good for an economy that can not support it.

[edit on 11/1/09 by Pfeil]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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Thanks from posting...

What makes you assume that Iran wants any negotiations anymore, and from what? - We all know that there is no evidence from Iran have nuke-program. "Ask Hans Blix!"

And still if they do have programs, they are sovereign nation with same rights to have nukes than US, France, Israel, Pakistan, India, China, Russia, Noth-Korea... Or any other nation! - What is the difference with Iran?

Arab world is brutally attacked with evil terror - that is how they see Gaza 911 today. UN resolution is for their good - but was not respected... Damage is already done, and Obamanation - with his terrible silence from Gaza - just confirm all speculations from who he is, and what he represents.

USA under Obama is Zionist enemy, working under AIPAC - so its USrael in eyes of many Arab nations - and their people demands actions against terrorist country - Israel.

So talking about negotiations - You need two to tango - so, dont assume that Iran is willing to speak with USA - Israels arms supplier any decent word.

To change - you have to change.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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I am very sorry to say, but its very naive and arrogant to say... "we have to wait" - What makes you think, after Gaza 911, that your enemy is not going to act first, and suddenly you dont call the shots anymore?

USA and Israel is playing with dangerous fire - Your shadow governments are. They believe to their victory, thats why they are making these provocations in Gaza today - but wind always changes, and in all out war there will come many surprises.

"War On Gaza" is not a real war - its more like mass murder. "Iraq war" was not real invasion either, but USA just "went in" there. There is nothing what promise that war against Iran will be that same, and first time for a long time, you have to respond to unknown - not only call the shots - and you will loose units, carriers, battleships, planes... Fierce fight against some modern kamikazes!

And then you have to defend your self in battlefield, stop moving and hide. When that moment comes - and with enemy like Iran - those moments will come, when they are calling their shots against you, in time what suits for them; keeping movements in their hands - you have over 700 bases to secure, then you see what war is all about!

Do you think Israel will care from US losses that day? - Or Obama?

They will say, "damned!" and send another unit to different location.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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New technologies and items can be created. WW2 created a lot of new technologies. We are talking about the future here so you can say whatever you like without be wrong at this point in time but I disagree that the creation of new items for people to buy is no longer possible on the scale we have seen in the past.

Other points.

1. Unemployment levels will soon be into the double digits and having a job as a soldier would pay more then no job at all.

2. Depending on what technologies and production methods are created during the war a farmer of past might be comparable to the jobs of today to people living in the years after the war. I don't pretend to know the technologies that will be created during the war or released to the public but they could be as revolutionary as electronic computer, jet/rocketary, nuclear power ect. were after WW2.

3. Iraq is not a large scale war. It's no bigger then Vietnam or other cold war proxies. The war with Iran is sure to spread into a gobal confict because of it's strategic value and geographic location. The situation with Pakistan is likely to explode and be part of the larger war, the caucus region too. Most of the ground work has been done to set this all in motion and it could happen within a few years, even as early as this year.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by Jacob08]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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I think this whole mess is a self fulfilling prophesy. If Iran never meant to built a nuclear bomb, based on the US and Israeli threats of war, it certainly would.

If you are constantly given warnings of imminent disaster, you will take action.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:59 AM
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You are right.

Massacre already done cant wash away... USA made attacks after 911, in mood of that trauma - how can we wait that Arab world would not attack after Gaza - in mood they get from this trauma?

I am so sorry to say this, but only US-Israel blood will cure their mental sickness and disorder today - I love you all guys, but those who Muslims are after this mess, is you - Picture of you suffering will balance their hate.

But there is no promise for me either, for me as European, that I can get my place with you in near future too... EU will join the fight, and we are seen as one after times goes further.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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From Thessolonians:
"peace and safety then cometh sudden destruction."
First we have the false peace period.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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from the word engagment that i got, i thought he was talking about engagment as in talking not fighting. then again i could be wrong.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 09:45 AM
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Obama's approach will be diplomacy. And that is what is sorely needed. Its not really so much what his policy will be that worries me, but the same power structures that exist behind the scenes. Thats the part that needs to change the most. The county needs to be run in transparency from the bottom up, grass roots style. All countries do, with anyone hidden pulling strings exposed and brought to justice.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by mystiq]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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Politics ---

"I have said long time, that we have to engage!" (means military)

"I have said long time, that we have to engage!" (means diplomacy)

Only what you can read as truth from these slippery shadow government statements is that USA is going to take some moves - and sure Iran will make all preparations to both outcomes.

When we remember what senate and congress just voted for... - Diplomacy? You must be joking...

"All options are on table" - Is that something we havent heard before? And that is not "change". Diplomats can read these statements very clearly. Only ordering carriers to hell out of there, would be a sign from a change - and lead to some successful peace negotiations... Or demand Israel to take step back under UN resolution, and stop arm sales, that would lead us to path of effective diplomacy.

That would be change.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by JanusFIN]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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‘A new approach’ sounds to me like he’s actually going to talk to the Iranians, unlike Bush.


WASHINGTON, Jan 11 (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Barack Obama said on Sunday he will take a new approach toward Iran that will emphasize respect for the Iranian people and spell out what the United States expects of its leaders.


But of course you always ignore what politicians say and watch what they do. Obama has also said that Pakistan will be an increased focus, and Pakistan is the last flank of Iran that we have to take. So it looks like Obama will keep up the pressure on Iran, and just add some sweet talk to the equation.

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Points well taken. There's also the fact that after WWII much of the manufacturing capability of Germany, Japan, the USSR and UK was destroyed. We didn't have much competition for a while.

After the next coming WW, the tables might be turned.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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S&F!!

I have read through all your news and press articles, I have read the posted responses there are some very good point's of defending these events, but the big picture isn't in the picture "At All." Just as you said Janus.
All the talks and engagements that are being dsicussed in the media and press releases were set on a larger stage of total manipulation from the US governments and the unprecedented acts of some kind of truce beliefs.
It is pretty much common knowledge here on the ATS forums that the groups of the "NWO" "Trilateral Commission" and "Bildeburgers" are real affiliations of reality, they are the "Master" puppeteer's of the show, they want to make sure that Iran doesn't get the "Big Guns" for it would thwart their plans of inducing self annihilation amongst the Arabs. The Iranians , as far as I know, don't have the capabilities of hitting the USA with Nuclear abilities. But they do have the ability of hitting, lets say, Russia, Israel, Pakistan and all the other locals that surround them in their geological location. Which is what the " Brzezinski's and the Bildeburgers" want to happen in that part of the world, "Less cost than going to war ourselves with no indecent acts of 'Deni-ability' for the USA government." These guy's are absolutely insane, though brilliant as far as plotting an entire planetary take over with plans of creating a "Socialist Republic" reality for the rest of us that are still alive.
Then we, the free and the aware, are going to be the global terrorists for the judging of the New World Order scenario.

As for the January 20th inauguration of Barrack, this is the time to be more wary of his actions and remember his words, there is going to be results, whether they be for teh better or the worst, but results of his intentions none the less.

"I am banking on "For the worst."



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by DaRAGE
from the word engagment that i got, i thought he was talking about engagment as in talking not fighting. then again i could be wrong.


thats what i got, esp when he said New
considering the old engagment was we will crush you
hopefully thats what he ment , like he said before open talks with Iran



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