Originally posted by moocowman
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
There is the man I was looking for. I'm so happy to see you. You had said that emotions were running high. Now you know why Jesus wept only
one time in the bible...
Emotions cloud judgment.
I see the points you are making and I would like to talk to you about them. I give you the room to do what ever you would like with what I will say.
Whatever you decide, I'm not worried because it is not my place to tell you of damnation or judgment, you are free to eat what ever you would like,
but I hope that truth will dictate your choices in leading your heart. Never worry about what another man thinks of you. You are loved.
What I would like to talk about is truth and you may judge for yourself in the decisions you make. I have not the right, nor the authority to tell you
what to do with your life, but I will state what the truth is as far as I can see it.
First, I would like to establish, so that we may all agree on what exactly truth is, so that nothing is left open to interpretation of ones own will.
In the case of such interpretation (a personal one) any debate is thrown out being disqualified, as all must be in agreement to establish civil
grounds for discussion.
To the Christian, take the words of Paul to heart that "no scripture is left open to personal interpretation", same here. If the group cannot agree
on a set definition, it is fruitless debate from all sides, but both sides are trying to produce fruit, either both will or none will. I like the both
option how about you all?
These are the first definitions I pulled up, see if you all agree on these definitions of truth. I have not sought out any favoring terminology, but
the first thing that came up. Here is what I found.
Definitions of truth on the Web
* a fact that has been verified
; "at last he knew the truth"; "the truth is that he didn't want to do it"
* conformity to reality or actuality
; "they debated the truth of the proposition"; "the situation brought home to us the blunt truth of
the military threat"; "he was famous for the truth of his portraits"; "he turned to religion in his search for eternal verities"
* accuracy: the quality of being near to the true value
; "he was beginning to doubt the accuracy of his compass"; "the lawyer questioned
the truth of my account"
I am going to continue, but if any find these definitions of truth not correct, then please state so in your following posts with definitions that can
be reviewed. Thank you
I will start with the first definition. Truth - A fact that has been verified.
Christians. Is God true?
Pro 14:25 A true
witness delivers souls, but a deceitful witness speaks lies.
Zec 7:9 So says Jehovah of Hosts, saying, Judge true
judgment, and practice kindness and pity, each man with his brother.
Joh 1:9 He was the true
Light; He enlightens every man coming into the world.
If it is you say yes, why do you make both God's just image out to be a liar who "Enlightens everyman coming into the world"? What do you seek to
save in this man who has been enlightened as are all coming into the world? At what time did Jesus say, "Preach to them the Gospel of my Death for
the salvation of their soul?"
Did he not say,
Luk 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me. Because of this He anointed Me to proclaim the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me" to heal the
brokenhearted, "to proclaim remission to captives, and to the blind to see again," to send away the ones being crushed, in remission,
Luk 4:19 "to preach an acceptable year of the Lord."
Gospel means "Good message". There is nothing good in what you preach Christians, there is no hope in a curse and no life in an Idol who can not
save nor hear. You were warned from the old testament, long before the new. There will be no saying, "I didn't know". You accept an innocent mans
death in your place instead of judging yourselves in truth as to bear up the cross daily. You eat from the very tree that kills because you refuse to
see in the light what truth is. Truth is not hidden since the beginning of the world. How dare you judge this man...How dare you cast stones...Pray
this man forgives you who have
Nevertheless God has already dealt with you who give judgment but do not do judgment, you are on your way with the bailiff, I recommend settling with
this man and all others you condemn to hell before you are thrown into prison and judged till every last word becomes reality. REPENT "The kingdom is
There is another factor we still must deal with and that is the factor of homosexuality. God despises homosexuality. It has nothing to do with the
love between two humans, it has to do with this simple fact that is truth. We are male and female for a reason and that reason is so that the life may
go forward in the blood, plain and simple. Can lesbians and Gays raise children? Of course. Can they make children? No. That is the sin, plain and
simple. Sin is death, nothing more, nothing less. Death is the end of the life in the blood. Homosexuality can not make life, it can foster it, but it
can not make it. Only God (male and female) can make life come into being. Homosexuality is a kingdom divided against itself.
It would be like hating a cliff, because you can't fly. The cliff has nothing to do with you not being able to fly, but everything to do with you not
having a body meant for flight. Does that mean man can not fly? Nope, he figured out a way around it, because "all things are possible for the living
God". Will man someday find a way to be unisex? Would women love for a Man to have to carry the baby? "All things are possible for the living God".
We are Male, in Hebrew male means "Remembered", thus Surname. We are female, meaning "Sexual Form". We are Adam (mankind) and Chava (life giver).
Adam is redeemed (re-membered) by the "Fee"male who is the kinsman redeemer. "Therefore man must leave his mother and father and cling INSIDE OF
THE WOMAN OF HIM, and the two become one flesh" That line has nothing to do with paper marriage or the institution of marriage, it has to do with a
new child made from two, who are one in a new body.
Homosexuality is spoken about, as is Bestiality, Incest, and other "perversions" because they are perversions of the system and natural order,
nothing more. It has nothing to do with God not wanting you to love someone with all your heart. It simply has to do with ending the life, by ending
the line. In ending the line, you are first and you are last meaning you cease to exist and become Ayin, a non entity. No bible is necessary and
should be known just by being able to see nature itself. Love has no bounds, but it, just like time, does have guidelines in which it must create and
until there is no more separation, it will continue in this manner till death is fully consumed by all. Then, we will truly begin a new creation.
Peace to you moocowomn and to you my Christian friends...lighten up on people, you will find out they were saved all along regardless of any "good
word" you spread. You are not able to make one hair white. Please start loving people and remember Jesus alive, not dead. He is with you even now,
waiting for you to resurrect him...if you don't, he will come and take everything you ever thought was security and crush it before your eyes so that
you KNOW he is God in truth, not fantasy nor something that is an idol. He is a trap that has no way out except to be out where there will be weeping
and gnashing of teeth.