There is no such thing as a Palestinian people

"the extremely close affinity of Jewish and non-Jewish Middle Eastern populations observed ... supports the hypothesis of a common Middle Eastern origin"

Fail Founding Fail
This says that Jews and NON Jews are brothers. Jews don't have a magic claim to Palestine.


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1) The Hebrew University is biased
2) 2 studies from 2001 and 2002 are 7 and 8 years old and were conducted at the Hebrew University is biased
3) "the extremely close affinity of Jewish and non-Jewish Middle Eastern populations observed ... supports the hypothesis of a common Middle Eastern origin"

Fail Founding Fail

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Originally posted by Founding
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The next posts between you and me, in this thread, will be in a moderated debate. Do you accept yes or no?

Founding can you see where Haran is on the map?
Take a good look at it because that is north.
You are very ignorant, now what rase are the so called israelis?
You have failed to provide a single name, in stead you come up with ethnic groups.Did you not know that different ethnic groups form a rase?

What BS will come next? I wonder.


Israeli, or JEWS are not a rase of people.



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3) "the extremely close affinity of Jewish and non-Jewish Middle Eastern populations observed ... supports the hypothesis of a common Middle Eastern origin"

Fail Founding Fail

Yes the study is done by "I do not know what to call them"?
It's improper for me to say, the study is done by christians, or budists because were talking about scientific research.
So I'll say, the study is done by the people that live in Israel"the zionists"
and reflects only one point of view and fails to bring to light.It does try to favor one side, but it also provides clear evidence that they are related and they are all arabs.The source is bias and explains everything one way
but it does not exclude scientific research.

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The world's Jewish communities are closely related to Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[51][52] who together as a single population also represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously Christianized and later largely Islamized, and both ultimately culturally Arabized.[51] The authors of one of the studies wrote that "the extremely close affinity of Jewish and non-Jewish Middle Eastern populations observed ... supports the hypothesis of a common Middle Eastern origin"

That study simply confirmed the hypothesis that Arabs and Jews are related and was the work of:

Hammer, M. F.; A. J. Redd, E. T. Wood, M. R. Bonner, H. Jarjanazi, T. Karafet, S. Santachiara-Benerecetti, A. Oppenheim, M. A. Jobling, T. Jenkins, H. Ostrer, and B. Bonné-Tamir

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I don't think your getting it. There is a huge difference between the history of a name and the history of a people. What today's so-called Palestinians are doing is a creating a false identity. They claim they have lived on this land since the before the Jews. They claim they are a separate group of people with their own culture, customs, and history. None of that is true.

Studies in genetics show that some Jews and some Palestinians are descended from the peoples who lived there over 2000yrs ago.The only thing that claims the land is exclusively for the Jews (Hebrews) is a book!

If you wanna believe that all Palestinians are of Arab descent then you have to take into account that those people have lived on that land since the 7th century AD! But I guess to you 1500yrs means nothing at all.

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That same book that billions follow. That same book many cultures and even governments are run by. Hell in the US there is a constant battle between people who want EVERY thing to be ran by that book and people who want a modern civilized nation. So its hard to dismiss the book when billions, Jews, Christians, and Muslims, all follow it. But isn't it strange, the Islamic forces have three, Christians, two, and the Jews one book but they are all tied together. Christians and Muslims believe that Jesus was the next in line, the Jews don't. Muslims believe Mohammed was next, the Christians and Jews don't. Who fights the most? Who in the past 2,000 years have fought the most wars with each other? The Jews, Christians, and Muslims. All over one, two, or three books. Billions killed, civilization lost for hundreds of years, empires destroyed, history exterminated, because of those books.

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That same book that billions follow. That same book many cultures and even governments are run by. Hell in the US there is a constant battle between people who want EVERY thing to be ran by that book and people who want a modern civilized nation. So its hard to dismiss the book when billions, Jews, Christians, and Muslims, all follow it. But isn't it strange, the Islamic forces have three, Christians, two, and the Jews one book but they are all tied together. Christians and Muslims believe that Jesus was the next in line, the Jews don't. Muslims believe Mohammed was next, the Christians and Jews don't. Who fights the most? Who in the past 2,000 years have fought the most wars with each other? The Jews, Christians, and Muslims. All over one, two, or three books. Billions killed, civilization lost for hundreds of years, empires destroyed, history exterminated, because of those books.

The Torah is the basic written text in question for Jews while Christians believe in Christ and go by the New Testament. In any case these religions as they are called believe in a Creator known as GOD. This is the definition of "Creationism"

Evolution is not possible if for instance all women were created from Adam's rib. Evolution says we are all related and are out of Africa. These religions paint the Earth as under 10,000 years old while physicists and astronomers have shown that the Earth is over 4 BILLION years old.

If you look at religions that center around creation and gods it is possible to see that they are all hinged around a central theme of "Sun Worshiping." Like the Son of God is actually a metaphor for the Sun of God. Religion is simply control through guilt based faith.

The important point is that no wars are waged over religion or any other of the typically generated ready made "reasons for war." Wars are all waged over resources and resource control nothing more. At the end of any war the spoils go to the victor. That is the reason we go to war. The more unpopular the truth is the greater the cover is. Whole societies have been rubbed out for land, water, energy or even riches.

It is much more simple to assemble an army when there is a "noble cause" like justice, revenge, religion and all the rest. If the leader came out and said, "Honestly, we have to kill all of the savages because we want their land and all of their stuff otherwise we will have to make do with less!" How popular would that be? Look at all of the religions in question and you will see that item #1 on the list is "No kill" and "Turn the other cheek!" If anyone needs to be crushed then GOD himself does that crushing.

WAR = Resource control

The people who originally gave their name to Palestine were the Philistines, or 'Peleset.' They were an aspect of the so-called 'Sea-People' who were never Arabic or Semitic. After their attempt to invade Egypt was defeated, the Pharoah removed them to the general area we now call Palestine. This was before King David, et al. The Philistines faced by David (as in 'Goliath') were distant cousins to the ancient Greeks, rather than Arabs. They wore dinstinctive feathered headdresses which set them apart from Semitic garb. One might doubt that at this late time any descendents of the original Philistines remain. There may be a batch of ethnic 'mutts' dwelling there who currently practice Islam, but that's about it.

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And out of all those billions how many believe that the land is for Jews only?

Not even all Jews believe that it is,and wild horse wouldn't even be able to drag them their to visit,nevermind to live there!

This thread is a prime example of why that part of the world is in a state of hell. All communications have broken down and people don't see each other as such. Everybody is spouting their version of the truth, not accepting another view. It's really pathetic ...

Great post and Very True. up untill the PLO and Arafat there was no such thing...