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Freemasonry and pedofile connection?

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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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After reading this thread (www.abovetopsecret.com...)

I started to brainstorm on any connections I've scene in my life.

I know of only one freemason. He is a friend of my family. He once told me about these trips to Cuba his friends would take. He said they would dock and beautiful Cuban teens would come aboard, cook, clean, do laundry and have sex for very cheap. He went out of his way to tell me this and kept emphasizing how young some of them were (12-14).

Now what strikes me and scares me is, when I was a teenager and didn't know much about the net I stumbled across child pornography on a forum (I now know what the term "jailbait" means) and a family member confronted me about it, i don't know how that person knew, the person is def not tech savy. I explained it was an accident and it would never happen again, and the person never brought it up again. Now this freemason and that family member are really close so I'm sure they talked about it. I'm thinking the mason was trying to get me to show interest in these trips to Cuba thinking I was also into that sorta thing.

Another strange connection is, another family friend that is also a good friend of the Mason is a child psychiatrist. The mason and another person who is also probably a mason admitted that when this group would go on trips to ride motorcycles, ski, ect, they would all smoke weed, except the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist would tell him stories from his practice and they would all laugh about it. And this psychiatrist usually see's the worst of the worst cases, molestation, incest, ect ect.

The mason is a strait perv, he always comments on women around him, no matter what age or relation to him. Even his own grandchildren.

Now that I have written all of this down and think about it, there is something definitely going on.

Anyone else have similar experiences or questions?




posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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Has it occurred to you that because someone may be a member of a certain group, and also has some sort of sick taste in something, that such a taste does not at all mean all members of that group share it?

Pedophiles exist because they are sick individuals, not because of groups they do or don't join.

Frankly if someone was that demented they wouldn't go around telling you about it anyways. Pedophiles know their actions are wrong and illegal, which is why they don't tell anyone about it.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by LowLevelMason]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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Yeah i have to agree...

The other thread was ignorant too.


Just because Garry Glitter and Michael Jackson (may) like young boys....
Doesn't make every musician/singer a kiddie-fiddler...


Grow up



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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Heh, after reading what your friend said, it seems that he was paying attention to detail concerning the females. Maybe it was he that got his little freemason "initiated".



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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Young people with talent are looked for to train for future leadership. But the people looking only want people they can control, so they tempt people with things they can use as blackmail afterwards. Once you make one mistake they will use it to coax you into committing larger ones, and use drugs to lower your moral defences.

You can be sure that if you go along with any of this everything you do will be secretly videotaped. Don't trust these people and don't go anywhere with them.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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Hi Darkstar

Thank you for posting your personal experience on this subject.
The mason and his friend you are talking about could be into dark things, from what you are telling.
But i dont see a real connection here to a bigger ring type of thing from what you told so far.
Unless a lot of people start posting the same experience as you have, i think we are looking more at an individual level here.
I am sure that there are plenty of pedofiles out there who talk about their dark hobbies when they think it is save.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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You know, all I was doing was sharing my personal experience with the connection of masonry and pedophiles. For you to even jump on me accusing me of thinking that all masons know of this kind of activity is kinda like when Bush told the U.N. to shun the conspiracy theorist. I mean honestly, you posters above me that call me ignorant sound just like him haha.

www.youtube.com...




Also, it wouldn't take much to get a following or group to think that masonry is involved with missing children and pedophilia, i'm sure theres a lot more cases out there of the connection. All it would take is some simple research, facts, ect and a well put together video distributed to the right people. If I were you whoever you think you are, I would respect my post and not call me ignorant. The tables have turned, grassroots is a powerful tool. This isn't a threat, threats are for bs'ers, these are just the facts.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by DarkStar86]

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[edit on 10-1-2009 by DarkStar86]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
reply to post by DarkStar86
Young people with talent are looked for to train for future leadership. But the people looking only want people they can control, so they tempt people with things they can use as blackmail afterwards. Once you make one mistake they will use it to coax you into committing larger ones, and use drugs to lower your moral defences.

You can be sure that if you go along with any of this everything you do will be secretly videotaped. Don't trust these people and don't go anywhere with them.



Thanks for the advice. They would have a real problem on their hands if they would try to blackmail me


There is good and evil in everything. As much as I do good I can also do evil as most can.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Fair is foul, and foul is fair.
Often people of supposedly high morality in the eyes of today's society like church leaders and masons are the ones who do the most unthinkable things. I have had two teachers, one in middle school and one just this year in high school who were involved in child pornography (I don't know if this is the correct term for pictures and videos over internet and phone, the high school teacher used students). And those are just the ones who have been caught, I wonder sometimes if it wasn't them who else it might have been, because they were both really loved and supposedly "good" people before the incidents happened. Involved in church and everything.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by cancerian42]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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I just find it remarkable that you know a fellow who is a Mason and so open about his pedophilia.
it's amazing, here you are out of the wood work, and come up to tell the story.
In fact, you apparently you are familiar enough with him to go to a apparent group where they talk about it and smoke weed.
Remarkable. Yet your only idea is to... pst about it in a forum?



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Angry Potato
Heh, after reading what your friend said, it seems that he was paying attention to detail concerning the females. Maybe it was he that got his little freemason "initiated".


The thing that get's me is, why would he tell me the ages and emphasize it? Why not just say the Cuban hookers were very cheap and hott? Why trust me with this knowledge? Is it a test? It was almost like the whole point of the story was to tell me about how young they were. All this creeps me out the more I think about it.

I also recall another time when this same person trusted me with sensitive info regarding the child psychiatrist's work. I was sitting about a table away from that same group and the Doc was talking about a really bad case of child molestation and they all kinda told the doc to keep it down b/c i was sitting close, then the mason said, he's nothing to worry about. I was in my early teens at the time, a bit younger than when he told me about the trips to Cuba.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by RuneSpider
I just find it remarkable that you know a fellow who is a Mason and so open about his pedophilia.
it's amazing, here you are out of the wood work, and come up to tell the story.
In fact, you apparently you are familiar enough with him to go to a apparent group where they talk about it and smoke weed.
Remarkable. Yet your only idea is to... pst about it in a forum?


I wasn't with them when they smoked and talked about it. I was only told about that. The reason this is out of the blue is the other thread got me to think about it. I mean these are family friends I'm talking about, so I really never thought about it in this kind of way until now. I think they didn't know I'm such a good listener to be honest.

I'm leaving now to go eat. I will try to answer any questions you all have.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Whatever you do, DarkStar, don't become a kiddy fiddler.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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If that's what they're doign, then report them. If not to the olice then one of hte many programs designed to ensnare pedos.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Nice try, but you clearly think there is some connection between membership in freemasonry and being a pedophile - your TOPIC is "Freemasonry ***AND*** pedofile connection?". You got called out on it, and now you are trying to back pedal.



Also, it wouldn't take much to get a following or group to think that masonry is involved with missing children and pedophilia, i'm sure theres a lot more cases out there of the connection. All it would take is some simple research, facts, ect and a well put together video distributed to the right people. If I were you whoever you think you are, I would respect my post and not call me ignorant. The tables have turned, grassroots is a powerful tool. This isn't a threat, threats are for bs'ers, these are just the facts.


Actually no, not there is not. There is no connection - freemasonry doesn't provide any real secrecy or any connections to accomplish such sick acts. People enjoy accusing masons of everything like this because conspiracy theorists have for years grouped freemasonry in with all their other "ultimate evil" groups, so its a easy target. There is no actual evidence for this.

There are no tables to turn because there is nothing masonic about this. You're trying to create a battle against something that doesn't exist.

I find it so fitting that while no one has called you ignorant, you continually call yourself ignorant.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason

I find it so fitting that while no one has called you ignorant, you continually call yourself ignorant.





Alluded to it....



Originally posted by blupblup
Yeah i have to agree...

The other thread was ignorant too.


Just because Garry Glitter and Michael Jackson (may) like young boys....
Doesn't make every musician/singer a kiddie-fiddler...


Grow up


[edit on 10/1/09 by blupblup]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason
Has it occurred to you that because someone may be a member of a certain group, and also has some sort of sick taste in something, that such a taste does not at all mean all members of that group share it?


Agreed. It's not about freemasons. The satanic pedophiles have infiltrated the highest ranks of freemasonry, politics, corporations and everything. These people only make up a small percentage of that group. The majority are people who want to do good.

Saying "all masons are..." is like saying "all blacks are", "all Americans are" or "all politicians are". As soon as someone starts stereotyping, they immediately become wrong, as groups of people are made up of individuals.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 07:51 PM
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A preposterous and unsupported claim.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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I have had family members that were Masons and I was in Jobe's Daughters when I was a young teen, which is a part of that organization. Never ever did I or anyone I've known that was affiliated with the Masonic Lodge, ever hear of anyone with uncommon friendliness or disturbing predatory tendencies towards any young boys or girls. This man you know is obviously sick, but not because of his affiliation with Masons; he's sick all on his own. That would be like saying that because some teachers mess around with their teen students, then all teachers are secretly aware or even endorsing it. Your thread title is very misleading.


[edit on 10-1-2009 by caithness cat]



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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Possibly during lodge meets they would use these to identify each other.

www.slate.com...

They are organized.

www.nytimes.com.../8+13htPn aR+Cbi9WA

They are powerful.

rawstory.com...

www.urbandictionary.com...

www.telegraph.co.uk...



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