posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:37 AM
Originally posted by DisgustedOne
I find it quite amazing that "we" would even debate whether it was 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 MILLION Jews. Is 3 better than 8? should the Nazi regime have
incurred lesser punishment if it were indeed 3? We are talking MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Are we trying to find a number that we can all live with, a number
that is just below the "significant" threshold? Does it really matter if they were Jewish? or if they were murdered for other reasons other than the
I agree numbers are irrelevent, the simple fact of the matter is that, combined, those events set in motion the way in which all conflicts are now
fought. The Nazis are labelled as evil for the crimes that they committed against civilians, yet retrospectively all they did is set the precedent.
The majority of those killed by the Nazi regime were because they were perceived as a threat, the intelligensia and political targets obviously, but
when the Wehrmacht rolled into Poland, the Einsatzgruppen rounded up all civilian males, mainly ethnic Poles, over the age of 14 and shot them. They
eradicated all potential dissension. The violence in the East excalated because of partisan activity, those that escaped the culls knew what awaited
them, they made sure that they caused the occupiers as much trouble as they possibly could. They had nothing left to lose. The Nazis responded with
even greater force and brutality. They also became concerned of what would happen if the ghettos rose up, they got a taste at Warsaw. They therefore
chose to eradicate that threat and at the same time alleviate what was becoming an economic burden. Economics and military expediancy had more to do
with the holocaust than race ever did.
In almost every conflict since world war 2, non-combatants have been treated as potential
combatants and purposefully targeted in some
instances. While the emphasis is placed on race we fail to learn the lesson that in event of war it is the little people that suffer and the
warmongers who reap the profit as they step over our corpses. Not only are civilians systematically slaughtered in the execution of war, those bodies
set up to prevent such things happening again fail to act to protect those innocents. Something is very fundamentally wrong with the system, part of
that problem is democracy. If a country's people democratically elect a leader they automatically take responsibility for that leaders actions (no
matter how unfair that electoral system may be), if another country is threatened and attacks, the people because they elected their leaders are
viewed as legitimate targets. This is how murder is justified by the big guns. This is why the G8 set out to spread 'western style democracy'. So
when the current incumbent won't play ball they can manufacture the necessary consent of the world wide community to attack and put in power someone
who will play ball, democratically of course.
It is because of this very debate that this topic should remain on the public boards. IMHO.
[edit on 13-1-2009 by KilgoreTrout]