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Bush Prepares Request for Rest Of Bailout Funds-If Congress Votes Down Measure, Veto Power Could Com

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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:34 AM

Bush Prepares Request for Rest Of Bailout Funds-If Congress Votes Down Measure, Veto Power Could Come Into Play

Senior Bush administration officials, consulting with the Obama transition team, have prepared a plan to ask lawmakers for the second half of the $700 billion financial rescue package despite intense opposition in Congress, sources familiar with the discussions said.

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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:34 AM
Even though Bush has only a few days left in office - he wants to make sure the last $350 billion is given away by Paulson before Obama takes office.

Even though there is no accounting of the money given away already - the White House wants to make sure the rest of it is hidden away by those corporations in need. Never mind all the people that are against it.

What gets me - is that Obama wants the same thing, from what the article says.

"There have been discussions between the administration and the transition team on how to proceed should the president-elect determine that he would like President Bush to notify Congress on his behalf of the intent to use the remaining $350 billion so that it will be available early in the new administration," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. "No final decisions have been made."
Both Bush and Obama officials say gaining access to the balance of the rescue funds is crucial to turning the economy around. Without the money, it would be nearly impossible to offer significant help for homeowners facing foreclosure, stabilize the financial system or jump-start the credit markets so more consumers and companies can get loans. The latest sign of the economy's deep malaise was new jobless figures released yesterday showing that unemployment has soared to 7.2 percent, the highest rate in 15 years. (See story on page D1.)

They claim it is about the people of the U.S. they are doing this for. Well guess what, we already is NOT about all of us, it is about giving our money away to friends.

There has been NO help to all of us individuals - if they really wanted to help us, they would have given all those in need help directly. No mortgages have been redone, in fact mortgage companies stopped talking to those who are/were being foreclosed on, as they are/were getting money to help themselves.

This give away is very obvious - it is to take all of the U.S. people's money and basically bankrupt us, to where we have no savings, IRAs, house values or anything left once the dust settles.

For Obama, using a veto runs the risk of souring his relationship with rank-and-file lawmakers, especially if it is one of his first official acts in the White House. It carries less risk for Bush, who is leaving office in a matter of days.

But the threat of a veto could assure distressed financial markets that more help is on the way.

In September, when Treasury secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. proposed the rescue to Congress, the House at first voted down the plan. Global stock markets plummeted immediately. The initiative eventually passed both chambers and was signed into law in October.

Bush officials committed nearly all of the first half of the rescue funds on aiding the financial system and bailing out individual firms. But their programs angered lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. Some were steamed that no help was forthcoming for struggling homeowners. Others said the effort failed to stimulate lending.

Oh, but of course - Obama is claiming the money is needed for the little guy, so I guess the first half of the money was needed for the corps, but now the little guy will be helped?

Even as senior Bush and Obama officials consulted about how to access the rest of the money, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, unveiled a bill on Capitol Hill aimed at forcing the Treasury to use the money in accordance with lawmakers' wishes.

Many of the measure's provisions are being coordinated with Treasury Secretary nominee Timothy F. Geithner, who is planning to expand the scope of the rescue program well beyond the financial system to help ordinary consumers and homeowners, as well small businesses and municipalities. Frank said in a news conference yesterday that his bill might not be needed if the Obama administration promised to abide by its principles.

What is that saying that Bush fouled up so badly with 4 years ago?

Fool me once?

The reality is, they can claim all they want about the bailout....

it will save the stock market and everyone's retirement in it....... NOPE - didn't happen - market dropped - with it.

it will ease up credit............. Nope didn't happen

it will help people not to be foreclosed on....... Nope didn't happen

it will help home values...... Nope didn't happen

it will keep jobs going..........Nope didn't happen

In other words everything promised with the bailout has not happened, in fact the opposite has happened.

Everyone knows the government is so corrupt and broke now, they will of course cave in and give the rest of the money to the big corporations - lets not kid ourselves - about them staying firm.

In the end, people will still be foreclosed on - the market will still go down - and all of us will be stuck with the bill to pay for it.
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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 06:45 AM
reply to post by questioningall

WOW, perfect example of how smart Paulson is - in bailing out companies:

Jan. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Paulson’s bank bailouts, done under “great stress” during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, failed to win for U.S. taxpayers what Warren Buffett received for his shareholders by investing in Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

The Treasury secretary made 174 purchases of banks’ preferred shares that include warrants to buy stock at a later date. While he invested $10 billion in Goldman Sachs in October, twice as much as Buffett did the month before, Paulson gained certificates worth one-fourth as much as the billionaire, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The Goldman Sachs terms were repeated in most of the other bank bailouts

Right there - shows - it is about a give away to friends without any accountablity of how the money is spent.

I thought congress was suppose to be able to say something about it, OH, I guess not....that was only for show.

“We were not looking to replicate one-off private deals” in the transactions, made under the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, Paulson said in a Bloomberg TV interview yesterday.

“The market was under great stress and the private sector was extracting very, very severe terms. What we were attempting to do, which I think we did successfully, was design a program that would be accepted by a large group of healthy banks with terms that would replicate what you would get in normal market conditions,” he said.

‘20-20 Hindsight’

Paulson’s warrant deals may give taxpayers less profit from any recovery in financial stocks than shareholders such as Goldman Sachs Chief Executive Officer Lloyd Blankfein and Saudi Arabian Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, owner of 4 percent of Citigroup Inc., said Simon Johnson, former chief economist for the International Monetary Fund.

The transactions are “just egregious,” said Johnson, a fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “You want to do it the way Warren does it.”

Paulson said “he had to make it attractive to banks, which is code for ‘I’m going to give money away,’” said Joseph Stiglitz, who won a Nobel Prize in 2001 for his work on the economic value of information.


“The worst aspect of this is that they were designed not to do what they were supposed to do,” he said in a telephone interview from Paris Jan. 7. “In many ways, it’s not only a giveaway, but a giveaway that was designed not to work.”

Please read the above article - but make sure you don't have anything in your stomach, as it makes you want to throw up regarding the blatant screwing we are all receiving!


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