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We Must Destroy The Machines!!!

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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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ATTENTION!
This is a theory and has absolutely no scientific or factual basis. That being said...

WE MUST DESTROY THE MACHINES!!!

Without the machines we will lose our currency and use for money. Mostly because the government will fall and lose all their power. There will be no more laws, no more rules, and your only protection will be provided by your friends and family. We will trade our individual goods and services for other individual goods and services. The people are now in power and govern themselvs. Living natural and free as we were ment to be. You will awake from your house you had built yourself and walk outside. The entire town is outside. Theres people BBQin, people playing music, conversing, using ethneobotanicals, and etc. We will practice the traditions of our ancestors. We will have become more united. We no longer think as much and use only our minds. We will develope enhanced instincts and live life free from ourselvs. When the spirit joins with earth again, we will never be lonely. We must Destroy The Machines!!!

What about safety?

It's hard these days with all the niceties we've become accustomed to, to think of life as being more pleasant without the machines, but it would be more what it should be. Some people seem to think that everyone would go crazy, but that is absurd. We'd have to work together to survive.

Machines promote solitary life styles. Alot of crimes are committed by people living solitary lives. Living a solitary life is completely unnatural and without machines we would have to reunite with one another.

With no electricity what would there be to steel or hurt anyone over anymore? People in large cities will undoubtedly suffer, but in smaller towns much would not change. People are just scared of one another thinking we'd all huddle up in small groups and kill everyone else which is nonsense. The laws dont make our moral standards, that is our own perceptions. Everyone would feel powerless in that situation and we would join together. We would become like family and we would provide portection for each other. We will develop trust and understanding. Besides theres nothing to do locked away in your house anymore.

To live without machines would take us back to a pre-industrialization type lifestyle, which we need to adopt unless population is reduced to a much smaller fraction of what it is. Our present lifestyle at our population levels will bring about an end to all life as we have known it on this planet in a quicker time than we would like to think. Imagine living in harmony with the Earth and the other living things; being directly responsible for your survival instead of working for some assholes that make you piss in a cup so you can earn your money.

But what about modern Medicine and Science?

Manny pharmaceutical drugs are mimics of natural herbs, but pharmaceutical companies cannot patent herbs. So they make their own version of it in the lab, along with chemical extracts needed to make it more like the herb they are stealing from so they can make lots of money, ironically making it more like the potential poison that creates the side effects you hear about in the ads and in the small print in magazines. The very popular anti-depressant Valium was mimicked from Valerian; an all natural herb. People can find ways to self medicate if only they could find the time to research various medicinal herbs that were used by our ancestors. The medicine industry is more than likely simply about getting money.

The basic laws of physics were thought up by philosophers with no real use of machines long ago. The progress we are makeing in science is futile becuase we will never truely understand the universe in this technological manner. Everything we find out only brings more possibilities. These things bring no conclusion, only infinite potentiality, and nothing but confusion

While math wizards are trying to design the new cell phone they are also crafting the future of advance technological warfare. There is not a SINGLE positive to the increasing development in technology. We Must Destroy The Machines!!!

Do you want to become a Cyborg???

If machines do not kill us all in the near future then technology will develope greatly. The machines will become so intelligent, so advanced and so abundant in our daily lives that we ourselvs will not beable to keep up. We will then start advancing ourselvs. We will bind our brains with complex machinery to become faster and stronger. We will become one with the machines as Cyborgs. Our only meaning in life as Cyborgs will be to further and further advance ourselvs into the empty abyss intill were all just one big #in disk drive! We might as well rip out our souls and # on them. Meaning will be lost. Love will be gone. Our warm flesh replaced by cold steel. All these machines are just making us more dependent on them. Making us week and further seperating ourselvs from our source and eachother. Do you wish logic over feeling? It is only a matter of time before the Human Being is also artificial.

Still not Convinced???

The Picture is bigger than you think. Machines sepperate us from eachother and ourselfs. They make us week and lonely. They keep us inside, they distract us, and they can absorb all our focus and energy without giving anything in return. They not only polute the environment, but they polute the human soul. They keep us categorized and classified. They help us loose ourselvs. They keep us distant and irrelavent. Nothing is more unnatural. They encourage the opposite of intuition and instinct making us dig deeper into the part of the mind that is only filled with potentiality and no one simple conclusion. This way of thinking brings only confusion. They make us dwell on trivial matters of materialistic non sense that will in no way shape or form mold a human being, make him happy, or provide any sort of wisdom what so ever. They are pulling us further and further from nature, our natural selvs, and cageing us in a box.

Machines make us dumb, week, ignorent, depressed, and clutter our lives with bull#. When you think of The Golden Age. The age where peace and freedom is restored on Earth for all mankind. Are there spaceships and #ing sky scrapers involved? I do not think so. Destroy the Machines!!!

But How??? This is not possible, is it???

The society I wish to create will inevitably be forced upon us in the future, but in a much more violent manner. It will take more than just one person to change our fate. It will take more than a group of people. It will require an entire army! And I ask of you to just spread your knewly found knowledge about the machines. Let other people see how they have enslaved us. If you yourself have not seen than you have not even given it any thought. It is time we start thinking with the soul, not against it, and not to question it. It is the dark side of the complex mind we have come to acquire. This Golden Age is not impossible, it is inevitable. See that fighting is good. We must all learn to fight. Fight against those who oppose us and fight for ourselvs. This my friends is a war for humanity! A war for our spirits! A war for freedom! The ones who have built an empire with the machines will not see it our way. It is easy to believe and when we have all seen the light we will be forced to fight. This must be done in global syncrasy and will be the greatest revolution in mankind. Spread my knowledge and the time will come. Destroy the Machines!

Wait...isnt it human nature to advance technology?

That is not true. There are still alot of primitive tribes that exist throughout the world with absolutely no machines. This technological era we live in is fairly new and became very quickly. Its been maybe 200-300 years out of thousands. We have only been developing tools before then which I have no problem with. (I realize that the definition of tools and machines are very similar, but I believe you know what I mean when I say machine. Advance Technology) Im not sure how all this came to be so fast. Somehow we have turned on the wrong path. We are very destructive and we are completely out of balance. I dont believe that is our true nature.

Perhaps there was once a day where some city like Atlantis did exist where people dwelled in spiritual issues rather than technological advancements. Who knows what is truely possible when an entire civilization studies in the advancement of only body, mind and self.

Final Word:

We become weaker when we keep giving away our power to technology, in other words, to external objects. We then become dependent on these objects and soon get to the point where we can’t do anything for ourselves. We also become habituated to obeying outside authority. Instead of doing this, the guiding principle of the new consciousness is to operate from our own authority. This means following the Spirit without hesitation.

Our next leap in consciousness will be the mastery of divine expression. We will know that we have everything we need inside of us.

Love and peace is easy to find, all you have to do is shut off your mind and let your senses guide you. This is the missing piece in all our lives. The unity of man and his environment. We have potential to become much greater than we are. Not in physical power, but in unity.

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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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One thing that you have to remember is that the machines don't rule us, they are our tools. Machines are not at fault for people's lifestyle choices. The thing about giving our power to technology is a bit off. Our technology IS our power and it is the fruit of our minds. If it were not for technology and tools we would not have civilization. Technology makes our lives better and helps us achieve things that would be unimaginable and impossible without technology.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 01:58 AM
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Yes... I want to become a cyborg. Being a cyborg would be awesome.

However, we must not destroy the machines, however we must not let them rule us, we must rule them.

My $.02.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 02:12 AM
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I agree with you...to a degree. I think that we need some tools, but I think that all this technology is actually making people dumber and it really bothers me. I can't just meet a person without them telling me to message them on myspace or something like that.

I keep getting pressured to get a cell phone, and while that would be nice, how about just talking to me in person?

It's definitely getting too far and I really REALLY don't like the whole idea of AI.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 02:18 AM
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I agree with you to an extent however.... I would say that technology has made me smarter.

I use my laptop to access all information on the world wide web and I can use my laptop to get access to ebooks where I can learn all about subjects which I so do desire.

I use skype and I can talk to all of my friends from my computer.

I can use my cell phone when I need to stay in touch with friends of mine. It's better than using facebook or myspace because with a cell phone you hear their voice and you can't always be around them all the time...

But I do see what you're saying. I would however, argue, that technology makes people smarter.

Imagine if all of us were without computers! Where would we be?



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 02:26 AM
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No see. I would say that, for similar reasons that you have given, technology has made me smarter. But the general population, in my personal experience, doesn't really "learn" from the internet because they know that the information is always there so there's no real need to retain anything.

I'll just google it.

I'll look it up on Wikipedia for the 30th time.

I don't need to read, if I have a question I'll get the answer on the internet.

Those are excuses I've actually gotten. And it's getting harder and harder to talk to people especially when they tell me I'm using big words while I'm speaking at a 7th grade level.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:04 AM
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I agree with you to an extent however.... I would say that technology has made me smarter.


I disagree that your technology made you smarter. It may have made finding the answers easier. Look at this test from the 1800s, could you honestly answer all of these questions with out a calculator, or being able to look it up on the internet?



I use skype and I can talk to all of my friends from my computer.


This is a nice feature, but what happened to writing a letter or simply going over to their house. Why even call when you can text? In my opinion a phone call is impersonal, as is me writing this. I don't know anyone who will read it but I will post it anyway.



I can use my cell phone when I need to stay in touch with friends of mine. It's better than using facebook or myspace because with a cell phone you hear their voice and you can't always be around them all the time...


Imagine your life if the only way people could get in touch with you was to call your home, send a letter, or to stop by. Imagine if you were driving having a good personal moment and your phone did not ring. I think cell phones are the most abused piece of technology we have. I know people who can not sit down without "texting" someone at all times. I understand the need for human interaction, but i feel as though calling or "texting" is such an impersonal form of communication it shouldn't even be called human interaction. You could send me a text, i would call you a jerk yet reply with "your awesome." Faceless communication makes us weak in my opinion, just as what I am doing right now. I would rather tell someone something to their face. I know too many people who roll their eyes as they reply in a friendly manner.



I would however, argue, that technology makes people smarter.


I would argue the opposite. Anyone can look up ho to compute a formula, but shouldn't we be able to say 1+1=2 or know/figure out why y=mx+b without using technology to assist us? Perhaps technology makes people more versed in history, but when it comes to critical thinking we score a zero.



Imagine if all of us were without computers! Where would we be?


I would likely not be sitting here writing this message but instead enjoying this cold evening drunk somewhere else.

This is hypocritical and i know it. If it wasn't i never would have replied or have been here in the first place. I love my technology, but some people only know what the TV, computer, cellphone, or other technology says, and that is far from intelligence.

I think tools and technology could and do definitely assist in human growth, but mostly we abuse it to be lazy.

Watch the movie wall-e and look how humans are depicted. i think that is where we are headed. A combination between that and the movie Idiocracy is pretty much where we are at today. There I go again using technology to found my basis on why i hate it.

I am a hypocrite, but I do love nothing more than for the power to go out adn to hold a face to face conversation with those i care about.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 09:25 AM
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We need more machines and they need to be connected to each other through a central control point. We need machines to do mundane tasks and to be our police force in order to have time to pursue life without having to worry about shelter, food, money. Just meditation, improving self, thinking, arts, music, sports, reading, etc. Spend time creating new art, music, books / e0books, machines, etc. Ultimately, add components to our bodies to give us direct access to each other, entertainment, knowledge. The ability to group mind for creative projects and advancements in technology and knowledge. With proper maintenance we could physically live maybe a thousand years.

So, I think we need more, smarter machines.

[edit on 1/10/2009 by Bramble Iceshimmer]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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Look at the Amish. They have no machines, yet they have their problems too.

They run puppy mills, I say that is immoral. There have been many cases of sexual abuse etc that have been reported.

Even when there is no electricity, when we had our first weapons, they were used to kill each other. People would find away to harm each other with rocks and spears.

Now get rid of the tv though, I can see that helping as I blame a lot of today's morality problems on what is being fed and accepted as normal on tv.

People that are used to living one life style then have it taken away, will leave a lot of people bored and listless. I think that if you already have a bad element,
they are not going to be cured, but go out and get into even more trouble out of frustration.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 12:41 PM
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We need more machines??? So we can live for a thousand years??? Do you realize what that would cause? The entire world will be dead before we ever get that far anyway. More machines cause more destruction of nature causing population growth causing more machines etc etc etc. It grows EXPONENTIALLY! Machines are going to kill us. They are killing us.

Do you believe in the paradise we see on movies where machines, humans and nature co-exist in the ultimate utopia? That is utter bull#. Dont be fooled. That will never happen and I will tell you why.

Machines are the extension of the "left" side of our consciousness. It does not litterally mean the left side, but what it implies is the tactical, intelligent, and logical portion of ourselvs. This side promotes seperation and strategic survival. This part sees himself, another, and his environment as seperate and life as temporary. It is insensitive and pure logical. The logic behind this function would be to suite ones own needs/desires. This is the most used part of our consciousness in our modern day and the machines are an extension of that.

The opposite would be the "right" side of our consciousness. That would be the intuitional, compassionate, 6th sense, and loving part of ourselvs which no machine could ever honestly duplicate. This is our "hearts" or "soul." Our connection with the rest of the universe, all life, and existence itself. It is beyond analysis and physicality. This side of ourselvs is supressed in our modern day.

You see both these sides or conflicting because they are not in balance. The "left" side mostly dominates the "right." Im not saying that the "left" side is evil or bad, but there needs to be a balance between the two inorder for us to continue our existence. Using only the "left" side and you will fail to realize your intimate connection with all life and live to suite your own needs and desires. This will always result in your own demise. It is an unwritten law and is exactly what we are doing right now. Just look at the world and how it is dieing. Do you not see that you will too?

So some of you do wish logic over feeling. That is a shame. When intelligence dominates compassion there will always be suffering. Good luck becoming robots because you will destroy yourself and all life on Earth in the process. By completely seperating yourself from your source, you act and operate irrelevant to it, but that is an illusion because you are always apart of it and by ignoring that connection you will destroy yourself.

So you see there will never be any sort of harmony if we act beyond our source. We will only achieve our own demise. If you live only to survive, you will only accomplish your own death.

Just take a look at my avatar. The computer represents that logical and intelligent side of ourselvs which it is the extension of and inwhich we have caged ourselvs within to experience a dull and lifeless world. The fading monitor represents the tiny fraction of honest love we still might beable to see crying out for life. This will be the end of us. We will perish.

Sometimes I think that it is too late. That we are already doomed. The heart of a child is tainted and calcified by our brutal society. There seems to be no hope.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by Wisen Heimer]

[edit on 10-1-2009 by Wisen Heimer]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Though what intigues me is that this exponential growth also includes knowledge. In the field of quantum physics, mathmatics, and science we are begining to realize and actually physically prove our intimate connection with all life on Earth and the universe. So maybe something very good may come out of all of this, but it has a high potential for destruction.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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I completely get what you're saying, Wisen Heimer. And I do agree, but I don't think it's time yet.

Machines and related technologies, like the computer and the internet for example, have a place in our society Right Now. It is a very important tool for us Right Now. Think about where you are and what you're doing Right Now.

Maybe if we hadn't "advanced" to this, there would be no need for it, of course. But since we have created machines, we need them for now, especially the internet. Those of us who see the folly of our ways must be able to communicate with one another about it to find a workable solution.

If we had created all this technology, but the government/military never released the internet to the public, I cannot fathom where I would be right now. I grew up in a small town where everyone worked in factories or the service industry for local factory workers. I was always different and out of place.

When I first saw a computer and learned of the internet, the first thing I wanted to do was chat. I knew there must have been others who were not of the mindset of the slaves I was among. And, of course, here we are.


While all of the other machines are for "them" (the sheeple etc.), this is OUR tool and we need it for the time being, so that those who are young and lost right now can find us.

Yes, we will progress beyond this technology of machines used for war and profit and manipulation of the masses. But first we must collect ourselves. We need to free the sheeple who honestly think there is nothing more than their present lot. We need to help them realize that being "idealistic" does not mean being "immature".



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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The Sheeple can save themselvs. I can relate to what you just told me. I moved to a small ass town in arkansas with a population of 200 after living in Massachusetts for the first 16 years of my life. I was lost, confused, helpless, out of place, and depressed. I contribute that drastic change to alot of the problems I now have and am dealing with, but it was not all bad.

Durring my stay here I had lost my identity. I no longer knew who I was or had any definition of self and often came to the conclusion that I was just a sack of # that didnt deserve human contact. It was the darkest period of my entire life, but that faze made me do something that I had never tried to do. And that was to find myself, my place and what is real in this twilight zone that seemed like a waking dream each and everyday.

I unknowingly imbarked on a spiritual exploration to find who I truly was because I had no idea. When I would try to explain who I was to someone it was nearly impossible for me. All that I had thought were contradictions and my depressed state filled me with doubt so I would accept my negative oppinions over the positive. But eventually I did find out who I was and what is real and it changed my life to this day.

I didnt find my answers online or by sitting in my room being introspective like I often did. I found it amongst the world, within the people that live there and through the experiences I had with the two. They may have unintentionally gave me the answer, but I dont think that matters. What matters is that the sheeple will not find any sort of success within themselvs chatting online. Atleast that is my belief.

People will learn if they put themselvs in a state where it is possible. This is somewhat relevant to the destroy the machines topic because while I was searching for my self I realized that I was traped within my head. That my thoughts were controlling me instead of me controlling me.

I had no idea what the heart actually was and durring that time I felt empty and black. I kind of felt evil too for some reason. Its hard to explain. While I was in that state I robbed people and stole because I would think, "# the World and everyone in it because they have given me nothing but #." But the truth is I had given me nothing but #.

I realized that I wasnt a bad person and I wasnt a sack of #, but I was a beautiful person. I was every person. As cheesy as this sounds and I know most people will misinterpret it, but I actually found God. I have never read a bible in my life and have been to church maybe twice in my life, but church and the bible have nothing to do with it.

I realized my heart was the holy grail. My mind questioned my heart. It would not listen to it. It couldnt make sense of it. When I shut off my mind and my meaningless thoughts, the answer sat there right in front of me. Infact it was always there, I just never saw it. The world is the reflection of myself. I felt the world within me and me through out the world. I saw a piece of myself in every individual I encountered. It changed my life.

The mind is a powerful tool that in some cases can take over your life.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by Wisen Heimer]



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Wisen Heimer
What matters is that the sheeple will not find any sort of success within themselvs chatting online. Atleast that is my belief.


Yes, you're right. The real sheeple would not be chatting in the right places. (lol)

Thank you for sharing your experience. I too learned to allow myself to interact, observe, and ultimately accept others around me, and in so doing I learned many things, most importantly to accept myself because we are all exquisitely unique and really deep and unknowable. It didn't matter that I didn't "know" myself.

However, that was after I learned on the internet the term "Namaste".

I know what you're gonna say... And yes, without the internet and technology, I would have naturally come to realize that we are all equal and wonderful, independent and unified.


I remember seeing this "primitive" civilization on one of the Star Trek movies (the only one I've ever even seen part of) and thinking how that would be my ideal society/culture. They had technology that exceeded that of even the Star Trek guys, but chose not to use it at all.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 03:19 AM
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technology will triumph.you were right the 1st time,it is too late and the world is better for it.


the world will not revert back to the stone age no matter how much you want it to.noone will ever take you seriously,and i wouldnt blame them if they didnt.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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Your test is a variant on this and isn't real. Snopes

Sorry.



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 02:54 PM
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So what are you people waiting for? DESTROY THE MACHINES!!! All you really have to do is walk away. Do yourself a solid, walk away. *walk away*



posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by dantrav

I disagree that your technology made you smarter. It may have made finding the answers easier. Look at this test from the 1800s, could you honestly answer all of these questions with out a calculator, or being able to look it up on the internet?


It has made him more knowledgable. I fail to see how technology is what caused our education standards to decrease.


This is a nice feature, but what happened to writing a letter or simply going over to their house. Why even call when you can text? In my opinion a phone call is impersonal, as is me writing this. I don't know anyone who will read it but I will post it anyway.


Writing letters takes more time and is less cost effective than using text messages or calling someone.



Imagine your life if the only way people could get in touch with you was to call your home, send a letter, or to stop by. Imagine if you were driving having a good personal moment and your phone did not ring. I think cell phones are the most abused piece of technology we have. I know people who can not sit down without "texting" someone at all times. I understand the need for human interaction, but i feel as though calling or "texting" is such an impersonal form of communication it shouldn't even be called human interaction. You could send me a text, i would call you a jerk yet reply with "your awesome." Faceless communication makes us weak in my opinion, just as what I am doing right now. I would rather tell someone something to their face. I know too many people who roll their eyes as they reply in a friendly manner.


Talking to people in person is nice, but isn't always an option. I'd take a phone call or a text message over no communication at all because I couldn't meet up with a friend.


I would argue the opposite. Anyone can look up ho to compute a formula, but shouldn't we be able to say 1+1=2 or know/figure out why y=mx+b without using technology to assist us? Perhaps technology makes people more versed in history, but when it comes to critical thinking we score a zero.


That makes no sense. Knowing what formulas are is related to memory, but solving them is related to critical thinking. If you just look up the formula and solve a problem on your own, you're still using critical thinking.


I would likely not be sitting here writing this message but instead enjoying this cold evening drunk somewhere else.

This is hypocritical and i know it. If it wasn't i never would have replied or have been here in the first place. I love my technology, but some people only know what the TV, computer, cellphone, or other technology says, and that is far from intelligence.

I think tools and technology could and do definitely assist in human growth, but mostly we abuse it to be lazy.

Watch the movie wall-e and look how humans are depicted. i think that is where we are headed. A combination between that and the movie Idiocracy is pretty much where we are at today. There I go again using technology to found my basis on why i hate it.

I am a hypocrite, but I do love nothing more than for the power to go out adn to hold a face to face conversation with those i care about.


Don't forget the technology that was created which allows you to travel to your cared one's homes, get their safely, and allow you to get treatment if anything were to happen to you.

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posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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Didn't Ted Kazinsky already write this Manifesto?


Technology is fantastic, people like to glorify "olden times" but really life sucked, it really did...

No razor blades, guys named UGGG coming over the hill to rape your daughters and wife, no antibiotics you had to poop outside, if you were hungry you often had to go kill something no matter what the weather...

and you lived to be around 30 Yay, i'd be 7 years over due for my death, nice life

I'll keep my Machines thank you



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