My Top-5 Illuminati-Occult Hollywood productions. This should raise an eyebrow., page 6
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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:04 PM by mopusvindictus
Hollywood isn't controlled by any single group or faction.

I have been in on the making of a few movies in my time and I assure all of you there simultaneously is not one group but rather many groups that use Hollywood as a "subliminal" or often not so subliminal message board for the masses and individuals who earn enough money and promote their own agendas just complicates the entire picture of why you see the things you do.

Main Factions within Hollywood revolve around several crowds...

Only one is of main importance in this discussion.

#1 for most of this past century but slipping would be my crowd, Jewish/Italian Brooklyn Nyc Clique (it's not a named thing) From Babs to the Beastie Boys... From the Three stooges to Madonna... I could Name drop for a day straight, if your from the neighborhood and have family or are in with the talent that came up from those streets children of... etc, etc... your part of the lions share of entertainment money for almost a century

The people you name... Kubrik is From Nyc, Wizard of Oz Director Victor Flemming got his start with Doug Fairbanks who was raised by his mom in Nyc, The Coen Brothers Went to NYU Film, The Wachowski brothers list as polish, worked for marvel based out of NYC and both sets of brother still grew up in the NY to Chicago zone where Jewish and Italian immigration flourished... Even Spielberg Ohio Jewish...


What's the Connection to Masonry?

Most of the Jews coming to America at the turn of the Century were those who left Europe PRIOR to the Holocaust and Most were members of Various lodges ( How much did my grandparents know ahead of time I can not say for sure)

The Common thread you seek

Is the practice of Kabbalah and the shared roots of the practice within the various lodges... My family was mainly Knights of Pythias

Consciously or unconsciously the majority of us in entertainment in it's various forms are in one way or another intimately connected by families in which our parents were members of various Kabbalah practicing lodges.

I have wondered where the "creative urge" in me comes from...

Do these individuals like Kubrik have any intention in spreading a specific message or ... is there some form of "brainwashing" affected as a child?

I would add only

That in my own experience, my upbringing was odd, well cared for but there was... are, things in my past... that seemed intentionally in terms of causing me certain...mild traumas as if my upbring was designed to create the persona of creativity, odd exposures, periods in which I had to endure things...

Hard to explain and childhood is not the time of best recall

What I am suggesting to you is:

That many of these "creative types" in Hollywood... are not so much members directly themselves of anything in many cases but were indeed "Influenced" and sculpted to be who they are and believe what they do by parents and by proxy.

I wonder very often

"where some of my ideas come from"

I am not big time, I work on games and some movies and write do design work... I make my living this way comfortably and it is interesting to analyze the creative process

"where do some of my ideas come from"

A question I have often asked...

My circumstances from those circles were not uncommon, I was adopted and raised under very woody allenish circumstances that seemed at times designed, designed specifically to force me to retreat into my thoughts, wasn't allowed out much as a child, Isolation...

Just the environment? a Coincidence that these people who's parents were connected to these various lodges that i know as an adult had strong Kabbalist Traditions all of them... Environment or Conditioning that produced such a volley of Creative People

Very hard to say

I will say this from my acting experience

My mind isn't like everyone else's, few good actors are, It is an interesting ability and one that I have... To be able to form "multiple personalities within your head and control them... to become, not just play another character for a role

Not at all dissimilar to, mind conditioning experiments where the personality is fractured so other personalities can be formed

The only real difference is, whatever caused that in me allows me to control it... but in essence I can fracture at will and "create" other personalities in my head...

makes for a heck of an ability to write a story

but then I must question from time to time

"am I in control"

"could these ideas and images have been put there"


I would have to entertain that there is a viable possibility...

I do not think your thread is as far off as some think, I just think maybe those doing the creating have been influenced when young.




I have memories of a night as a child where... in a very vivid dream I was shown on a screen tons of information that I never could nor can I recall consciously, a feeling like none other as all this information flashed on a screen a giant screen in front of my face... like it was of the utmost importance and could never remember the info, yet 30 years later I remember the dream so vividly

and, I never studied for tests but could always "just know" the info which is a rather odd thing, but in a pinch I often seem to have answers and knowledge I never studied...


Was I? Where these people you name and many others "influenced" "programmed" at some time, specifically conditioned, raised, inducted in some way of thinking... could brain games have been played?

Could the things you notice be coming out of the creators having been put there without their knowledge a long, long time ago...

I fear that may be the case, the connection and why the predominance in Hollywood being so Jewish being the Kabbalist roots of many different lodges



reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:39 PM by prevenge
you forgot Zardoz en.wikipedia.org...
and
Soilent Green en.wikipedia.org...

oh yeah you've been ignorant of the existence of the subterranean dystopia triplets:
THX-1138 en.wikipedia.org...
Logan's Run en.wikipedia.org...
and The Island en.wikipedia.org...(2005_film)
all three based roughly on the Time Machine split of humanity into two distinct species or sects.
en.wikipedia.org...
all hints at humanity's planned outcome.

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[edit on 10-1-2009 by prevenge]


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 10:15 PM by MrJelly
reply to post by Doomsday 2029



the illuminati are good people.

they are responsible and focused. Unlike the masses who are lazy, greedy and delusional.
that is why
the illuminati are at the top.

the masses rather live in fantasy instead of observing reality and being held responsible.

great movies.


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 11:29 PM by mopusvindictus
reply to post by TylerKing



Interesting that you mention that...

I almost always use various symbols, numerology etc, etc in all my work... logos at 33 degrees, pyramids occult numbering...

As I said above, the question is

Do i do this as you say "because i'm interested in the subject"

Or did someone condition us to so without our awareness?????

The commonality of all of us in the business sharing the "interest" is very ...well, Interesting

I always rationalized this "behavior" as an "interest" of mine and "trippy" and "maybe it works or i'll get attention via it"

But I literally Litter my work with symbols

Just part of the creative process and sort of common thing the imaginative would be interested in?

Or were we affected or induced to this sort of thing?

I think if you look deep enough, you might find your habit of adding these things to your work, as well as mine and many others, is not actually your own idea.





[edit on 11-1-2009 by mopusvindictus]



reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 11:44 PM by Doomsday 2029
Originally posted by arc de triumphe
I would say you missed one "They Live"....

Watch this video for a breakdown...

celticrebel.wordpress.com...



Wow... just wow...

I only watched the first video in that link, and while I do not believe in everything it offers as truth (lizards and aliens),... That little video did a much better job at explaining the message I'm trying to preach.

Thank you...

I recomend others watch the video.


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 06:46 AM by Alienmojo
Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
To continue my protest that ATS needs a Hollywood Conspiracy board (or whatever ATS wants to call it.) I've decided to give a few more examples.


Hey Doomsday, sorry if I sound a bit stupid here... but who cares? What I mean is: What difference does it make? Put all the symbology you want in these films and it doesn't change anything.
Do I like the Illuminati or Masons more now? Nope.
Am I prepared for their immient takeover of the world? Nope.
Was I not shocked by 9/11 because of Neo's Passport? Nope.

Again, and I am saying this in a polite way because you went to a lot of trouble making this thread and obviously believe very strongly in it, but what does it matter? Can you explain that to me? So they put all this symbology in and what is that supposed to do? Desensitize me or something? Oops...didn't work.

Please explain a bit more on what I am missing here. Personally I think there is no symbology here and that its just mild paronoia that makes one think there is. I can take all those symbols you just stated and make something entirely different. Someone put up a thread showing how Fight Club was all Illuminati and stuff... but I could take everyone of those symbols and show how it was a conspiracy created by the Beatles to sell more Abbey Road albums.

I'm not mocking you here either brother, just trying to understand more. I'll finish reading the thread and maybe someone will explain it more to me because frankly I just don't see anything and even if there is something to it...what's the point?
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