My Top-5 Illuminati-Occult Hollywood productions. This should raise an eyebrow., page 3
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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 12:38 PM by estar


A 9-11 one on Fight Club is a very intresting video, but I wouldn't go to far with any of it.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 12:38 PM by trustnobody
reply to post by MrVertigo



This is a Bummer Man. I will never be able to watch the Big Lebowski the same way again. The Dude was my hero. Not to mention a great Bowler. Seriously though I think that we see propaganda on network tv more than movies. It makes more sense and would be practical.

Peace,
Trustnobody


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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 12:39 PM by Anonymous ATS




reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 12:43 PM by TheRandom1
reply to post by Doomsday 2029



Dude, absolutely NOTHING in any of those videos had anything to o with the illuminati, it had everything to do with simple geometry, triangles, wheels, circles, checkard tiles (I had them in my kitchen at one time, gaps! I must be part of the illuminati!)

Look, IlUmInAtIs, teh Amish has em!!!!11!!11ones!!!!1!!1!!elevens!!1!!!11!


Sun worship wheels!!!!


Sun worship wheels and a phalic pyramid!!!!1!!


MORE pyramids!!!!



Clock work orange pyramid sun worship phalic symbol satan lions taco bell!!!1!!!!!!!!oh teh ones and elevens!!!1!!!!!!!1




Sorry for all the dramatics, no, i don't believe the Amish ae part of the iluminati, but seriously dude, what I'm trying to say is that simple geometry are NOT symbols of the iluminati, yes, the iluminati use simple geometry for many of there symbols, but it's honestly because it's appealing to the eye, plus the fact that sacred geometry is very practical for everyday use.

Hollywood does put sublimial messages into pretty much everything the do, I was watching Wall-E and noticed of subliminal messages and NLP.

Sometimes Hollywood uses symbolism, but usually it doesn't have much to do with the iluminati, it's usually for advertisement or to establish an idea, much like in the series "Smallville", they use the superman "shield" as a symbol of authority and to establish a conection between heors and law enforcement, if you've ever seen the show, you may have notice this:

Metropolis Police Badge:



Superman Symbol:



And then of course there is there subliminal advertisement:



I agree with you that there should be a "Conspiracies in Hollywood" section, but what you've offered is not solid ground or reason enough to have ATS start a whole new section on the forum, I would try and find something more solid to present, not saying that what I've shown is solid and the "be all, end all", but honestly it's a heck of a lot more factual and solid concerning evidence than what you have presented though.

-Lahara

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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 12:54 PM by Phenomium
(From Wizard of OZ vid) Cross=sun....heart=sun...12 spoked wheel=sun....lion =sun....sun symbol =sun........................IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL THAT DOESN"T EQUAL THE SUN? LOL. Under these "not so obvious" pretenses anything could be a subliminal conspiracy. Now I know that conspiracies of the highest order exist and have been placed in everything all over for generations, yet, somehow I believe in this particular case....you are digging deep. When I watched Wizard of OZ (with a gun pointed to my head) I saw these images and all I saw was a stupid lion that reminded me of my ex mother in law...a 12 spoke wheel (that when not greased up sounds like her screeching voice) and all of the other purported images...but nothing said Illuminati to me. The movie, in fact, spoke more of a message to me of our people, who in the face of danger from a more powerful entity had no heart, no courage, no brains. This higher power had lot's of 'little people' (repubs and democrats) who worked for them unquestionably to make the big machine work and at the end it turns out that this big machine with so many parts was run by a single man (antichrist possibly) nevertheless...ran by so few parts. If you think about it....it's exactly how life for us has actually played out (without all of the fiction and midgets). As far as sublims in movies...yes, they are there, but really, does it matter that much when the people don't even know what they are looking at? They (masons) see a sun...the peeps see a wheel. Who cares? A bigger question is what is YOUR agenda? Why are YOU working so hard to tell us of these messages that really affect us in no way?


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 01:03 PM by MrVertigo
Originally posted by trustnobody
reply to
post by MrVertigo



This is a Bummer Man. I will never be able to watch the Big Lebowski the same way again. The Dude was my hero. Not to mention a great Bowler. Seriously though I think that we see propaganda on network tv more than movies. It makes more sense and would be practical.

Peace,
Trustnobody


[edit on 10-1-2009 by trustnobody]


Bowling???? Dude are you serious? Throwing a ball (sun-worship) down a lane and knocking down pins arranged in a TRIANGLE (pyramid-duh!)

Bowling alleys are nothing more that NWO/Illuminati desensitization camps, where the sheeple mindlessly flock in to get programmed.

Edit: and don't even get me started on curling or darts...

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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 02:00 PM by Doomsday 2029
Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
I pretty much agree with everything you state, except:

But just remember this... All these stupid lizard conspiracies, these Niburu theories... Were created in this 1997 movie.


Not true IMO, back in the late 70's, maybe early 80's, V the series covered the reptilians taking over our media idea, this ignores the reports from centuries and millenia ago, although, these could be just active imaginations of superstitious people.

Nibiru has been around for a while too, the best example I could give for contemporary theories is Sitchin, now alot of his research is heavily based on his opinions rather than evidence, although he does show some compelling information. Point is, his first book was written in the 70's.

All that said, I agree with you. A board would be good, although I probably wouldn't frequent it much

Some of these ideas have been around for a while, one of the reasons I find them interesting.

EMM

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This is true... I worded that completley wrong... I didn't mean to say that they were CREATED in The Fifth Element... I meant to say that they were obviously portreyed in this film.

So again, this 1997 film showed us something that 'we here' on ATS would be discussing quite a bit in the near future. These theories have grown extensivly in popularity the past three or four years... But they never even crossed my mind when I watched this movie in 1997...

But thank you for correcting my statement.


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 02:06 PM by Game_Over
the truth is that there is tons of symbolism in Hollywood movies. Can we all agree on that?

If so, then there is a need to discuss it and dissect it to reveal possible meaning.

I believe we are running into obstacles when we try to impart our interpretations as being THE DEFINITIVE meaning.

Perhaps the focus of this thread should be to discover agreed upon symbolism or hidden meanings and then we can collectively discuss it and from our broad ranges of taste and understanding, we can come away with something more.

I have been working in the film industry for over 8 years on many films and tv series from bollywood style all the way to top Hollywood productions.

Filmmaking is a COLLABORATIVE ARTFORM. Let me tell you firsthand, that almost NOTHING in a film is ACCIDENTAL. The various departments prep for months before a single frame is shot. So yes, the various colors and textures of simple things like wallpaper, or the arrangement of the coffee cups is planned and is executed to elicit facets of character or theme.

So a certain director may or may not even be totally aware of the symbols being used in his or her film. There are many layers of creativity that each have a say in their particular field and they all reinforce each other, however they are not always privy to the "whys" behind each others choices.

So to sum it up, EVERYTHING that is filmed, has a PURPOSE that is discussed and debated many times before it is approved and implemented. While a symbol may be used with intention, that intention may not be known by everyone working on the film, including the director.

Great thread and looking forward to the eventual MESSAGES IN THE MEDIA topic.
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