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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 10:06 PM by theresult
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i dont understand the tread vs what it is you are gettin across

what is the theroy you speak of?

I am unsure here


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 10:43 PM by Lasheic
Originally posted by redwolf.of.odin
It is my belief that for hundreds of years the human race has been handicapping us in respect to evolution. Every scientific advance that makes like easier for us makes us lazier and damages or gene pool. The genes those are responsible for strength and surviveabily. Are not looked for in a mate any more in the human relationship. What genes are past on weaker genes from people who spend there days in an office pounding away on a keyboard these are the people that make the good money. And everyone knows that women go for the money the guy that can take care of them. No offence girls it’s a social thing we understand


All your saying is that selection is no longer due to environmental stresses, but now have to do with social stresses. This is untrue. Environmental stresses still greatly impact human evolution, although they have slid in importance to social stresses. As social animals, social stresses still affected humanity when we were a more primitive race - and affected our ancestors (such as Australopithecus) and our cousins - such as the Chimpanzee. Civilization, the removal of many natural barriers to population, has shifted the priorities of selection -but hasn't removed them.

Although often an important driving factor, Evolution is not wholly dependent on natural selection.

Does it really matter anyhow? Within the next 30 years we will have the technology to rewrite our genetic code and remove deleterious mutations and replace them with beneficial mutations - both in developing young and in already fully grown adults.


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 02:28 AM by Lasheic
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i used the word gene pool as a term i thought people would understand ok


So... you knowingly used the wrong term and for the wrong situation, and you expect people to understand? If they do understand, it will be invariably be a wrong or flawed understanding. How did you think that would be a good idea?


what i am saying is that the prettiest girls have the best genes


This isn't really true. Sure physical attractiveness can weed out potential mates from bearing offspring that carry genes for a number of physically detrimental traits. However, by and large, these things aren't obvious. Perhaps a pretty girl has a gene that makes her particularly susceptible to heart disease or Cancer? This isn't even counting the genes which are switched off in her, but still carried by females in her family. On the flip side, a rather ugly and sickly girl may carry a gene that codes for high bone density or resistance to anemia? Again, these traits may be carried, but not active.

The process of deciding on a mate due to physical attractiveness is only a single factor in selection. A much rather larger influence on the effective passing on of deleterious genes would be the advent of civilization itself. Civilization is what keeps us protected from the harshness of nature, a harshness that has been a major driving force for removed deleterious genes and favored well adapted genes.



now women do not choose the strongest most asertive men to mat with puting the best of the male genes with the best female genes. the choose for love or convenace or money or someone they can control.


For most of recorded history, women have had no choice over whom they marry. This responsibility was delegated to the father or leader of the family. Women were often regarded as property, or at the very least worth far less monetarily than men, and their marriages were usually a form of business/political contract between families. Hence the inception of the dowry.

This is, however, after the advent of civilization and agriculture. I don't know the common marriage practices of pre-historic hunter-gatherer tribes.



this damages the genes that are past on because the stronger genes just slowly die out. and the weaker genes are pasted on instead.


Again, mating selection isn't a major driver of evolution. Having the beneficial genes necessary for survival until you DO mate is far more important. Further, I think you're hung up on the concept of "Survival of the fittest". This is a blatant falsehood, and has only survived as a social meme of the uneducated. Firstly, selection isn't the only avenue by which evolution works. Secondly, it would be far more accurate to call it "Survival of the most well adapted to their environment". Doesn't quite have the "ring" that "Survival of the Fittest" does, though. Herein lies the underlying flaw in your statement. We are no longer in the same environment we originally evolved in. We as a species are dependent on society, regardless of the technology level. So the rules for favorable adaptation have changed a bit. Now, as a social species that builds civilizations, should favor adaptations that make a person successful within that society. If this means he's some splindly little dork with no muscle tone poking away at a keyboard in a cubicle- but making three times what you pull down in a year then... surprise! He's more well adapted to his environment than you are.

Natural Selection based on our environment still applies, mind you. There's the chance you could die from a virus, or be mauled by a bear, or run a stoplight because you're color blind and get creamed by a truck. However, because we actively try to insulate ourselves from the natural dangers of our environments - it invariably play less of a role than it once did.



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:43 AM by mungodave










reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:09 PM by Lasheic
reply to post by redwolf.of.odin





so basivly what you have said is that i spoke in laymans terms so everyone could understand and you disaggree with me because of that ????


No... layman's terms are still correct, just simplified. You weren't even close to being correct.



and exactly how do you know that anyone makes 3 times more than me or that i'm not just like the person you have describes this is a onservation


It's a hypothetical situation to demonstrate a point. It wasn't intended to be an accurate description of your annual income.
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