Texas death row inmate pulls out eye, eats it, page 3
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 06:13 PM by nixie_nox
reply to post by jam321



OH heavens Jam. That is not a visual I needed!


Though I would never to to that guys' haunted house, that is for sure.

Seriously.

There is a slight possibility here, and I know I will get booed offstage. That he does feel remorseful. And the details of trials and havin to face the evident may be stressful for him. And he is trying to pluck the images of his dead family from his head. People have been known to do that too.

I dunno, I think I would rather face the injection then dig my own eye out.

Problem is that he is in Texas too, the most pro capital punishment state. They have the system streamlined, and usually are not very empathetic.
If you want to get out of capital punishment, don't do your deed in Texas.

FYI folks:

It costs more to commit an execution then to keep a prisoner for life.
Between paperwork, appeals, and everything else. The state ends up paying more for capital punishment.

The Costs of Capital Punishment

The actual execution of an inmate is quick and simple; the capital punishment system is far more complex. To resolve issues of unconstitutionality that the Supreme Court found in FURMAN V. GEORGIA, 408 U.S. 238, 92 S. Ct. 2726, 33 L. Ed. 2d 346 (1972), states found it necessary to introduce a complex appeals process that would guarantee the rights of death row inmates. Capital trials are much more expensive to carry out than are their noncapital counterparts because of the price at stake, the life of the accused. Evidence gathering is also more expensive: evidence must be collected not only to determine the guilt or innocence of the accused but also to support or contradict a sentence of death. All sentences of death face a mandatory review by the state supreme court, at an additional cost of at least $70,000. If a case advances further in the state or federal appeals process, the costs are likely to jump to $275,000 or more for each appeal.

Appeals of a death sentence guarantee great expense to the taxpayer, as the state pays both to defend and to prosecute death row inmates. Public defenders in such appeals openly admit that their goal is delay, and prosecutors and state attorneys slow the process by fighting access to public records and allowing death row defendants to sweat out their cases until the last minute.

According to a 1990 study, the total cost to build a maximum-security prison cell is $63,000, which breaks down to approximately $5,000 a year in principal and interest. The annual cost to maintain an inmate in this cell is approximately $20,000 a year. Together, these costs mean an annual expenditure of $25,000 to incarcerate an inmate. Based on a sentence term of 40 to 45 years, one inmate would cost the taxpayer only slightly more than $1 million—less than a third of what it would take to pay for the process that culminates in execution. A twenty-five-year-old woman convicted of first-degree murder would need to serve a life term to the age of 145 before the costs of incarcerating her would surpass those of executing her.


[edit on 9-1-2009 by nixie_nox]


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 06:19 PM by jam321
reply to post by nixie_nox



There is a slight possibility here, and I know I will get booed offstage. That he does feel remorseful. And the details of trials and havin to face the evident may be stressful for him. And he is trying to pluck the images of his dead family from his head. People have been known to do that too.


Sorry about the visual.

I won't boo. You have added a possible explanation. Only the inmate knows the real reason and even if he told us the truth i am sure many wouldn't believe him.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 06:25 PM by hotpinkurinalmint
Originally posted by Sonya610



How is it possible that this guy was NOT considered insane?

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


There is legal insanity and regular insanity. Many criminals have mental health issues and could be diagnoses as "insane" by psychologist. This does not mean they are not legally insane.

Legal insanity means somebody does not understand right from wrong. In the context of an execution, it means the person does not know what is going on. The fact that he ate his eye could indicate he is aware of what is going on. Afterall, the eye eating does not appear to be be a random occurrence, but a calculated act made to avoid an impending execution the prisoner is aware of.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 06:55 PM by Valhall
Originally posted by Sonya610


How is it possible that this guy was NOT considered insane?

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


I think this case points to the problem with the insanity defense in the first place. First off, I'd like to state my opinion is anyone who will murder another person - no matter the reason - is insane. With that you get on the slippery slide of insanity being a defense. Insanity as a defense tends to be applied and ruled a positive defense when the person who is accused has been deemed to not know right from wrong, or the consequences of their actions.

While pulling your own eyeball out and eating it is clearly insane (as is killing a little baby, a little boy and your wife), it does not necessarily mean he didn't know he was committing an evil act when he murdered.

So...in conclusion, the blind sob apparently has been judged by a jury in a court of law under the state's laws within he committed his crimes to be of such an ilk that removing him from society is best for society.

I'm not going to argue with the 12 people who decided that.

[edit on 1-9-2009 by Valhall]


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 07:00 PM by mopusvindictus
reply to post by andy1033



"typical American Violence is in all your souls"

Given comments like that... it's no wonder, my only desire (and it's not a threat) was to smack your face when I read that hate filled, generalized and nasty comment...

Perhaps you get what you perceive in life and actually create it yourself... muddle that over in your little head for awhile, I was felling great prior to being inflicted with that remark and suddenly I feel violent...




Learn to Control your thoughts ... you create what you believe, when you become aware of that you'll have some hope and decency


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 07:07 PM by googolplex
reply to post by burdman30ott6

Yea I like the way they do it in those so called backward countries, they just get the person chop of head right then, or arm , leg what ever, taken care of biz.
Then their easy to spot missing arm , arm and leg, head.
In the old days if a whore was caught messing around with young boys they would put big hole in side of nose.
That's what they should do to the pervs today, put big hole in nose.
I know I was in store one day with my daughter, and I notice I had begum to hiss unconsiously, I then looked over and saw a old perv, eyeing my daughter.
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