posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 09:58 AM
Originally posted by ExamineAllViews
reply to post by tjeffersonsghost
I don't think I worded my previous post well, sorry I will try to be more clear. I have read, and agree that the initial group that has NOW grown
into HAMAS was supported and funded by the Israeli government. However, I think it is unfair to suggest that Israel is to blame for the organisation
it has become and what is represents.
The OP is implying that Israel set up and aided a fundamental Islamic resistance group, knowing full well their intentions to create trouble. Do you
REALLY believe the Israeli government would create and support a group that promotes violence and seeks to destroy its (Israel's) own state?
Not saying the IG is blameless and without fault, but they surely would not do the same knowing the nature and ideals of the current Hamas movement.
Also, people on both sides need to take some responsibility for their actions and stop blaming the opposing side. Peace will only come when ALL
parties show tolerance and restraint.
Use a little logic here. Party "I" creates party "H" in order to do what???? To wreak havoc behind enemy lines and disrupt the lives of party
"P" and take apart party "P's" "PLO"...
In other words when all of those peace accords and meetings were being held way back when the Israelis had no intentions on honoring them. The fact is
that Jimmy Carter (who is a pacifist) thought the opposite of others in his position and called for a true 2 state solution. This is when the Israelis
started arming the Iranians and the whole hostage crisis bloomed. In other words all of it from the TOP down has been lies.
The moment Regan took office the hostages were freed and the USA/Israel relationship went back to what it had been before Carter took office. Keep in
mind that it was Carter who wanted the USA to practice CONSERVATION. Why do you think he wanted that? Because he realized that the entire Mideast had
been sliced up by American and British oil companies and we were causing wars there.
So now we get to today and let us argue from both points being that A) Israel is making it happen on purpose or B) Hamas is making it happen on
1) Since Israel made Hamas to start with, then it is that Hamas is simply doing what a special operations group does for their true leader?
2) Hamas went rogue because Israel stopped paying them and their families and are smacking back?
As it stands the highest probability is that ISRAEL is at the center of this. They create the problem, call attention to the problem and then solve
the problem. All along the actual Israeli problem is that they want the entire territory but can't justify a true extermination so they do it all
incrementally and manufacture their own enemies as they go. If they simply "wipe em' out" they will not be able to hide behind Hamas. Now they may
have to get rid of Hamas as well.
It is difficult for you to stomach since it makes all of the supposed good guys like USA GBR IDF into the biggest "mad dog" sort of liars and
[edit on 10-1-2009 by Alpha_Magnum]