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reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 10:46 AM by hoagy1199
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No working links right now, time share with othe news agencies like yesterday.



reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 04:37 PM by CVTman










reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 04:58 PM by DragonFire1024
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When did they break it? Everything I read and see, including the live Ramattan feed, looks to be quiet so far. Hamas even said they will give Israel 1 week to withdraw from Gaza.


reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 11:06 PM by Toadmund
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I've been subconsciencely thinking this, and you brought it to the fore front of my mind. Something tells me, figuring that Hamas ain't stupid and are not like sitting ducks for Israel.

I don't believe for one millisecond that Hamas have been brought to their knees. Could Israels retreat have anything to do with it creating a bad image to the world? Did they lose the propaganda war? It's not helping them to lose allies and make their enemies more emboldened.
I can't remember where I read it but I think it has to do with 'friendly' Arab neighbors who are threatening to cut ties with Israel.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 12:46 AM by star in a jar
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[To me, it feels like someone much larger just put their foot down and gave them an ultimatum. Who that is, I haven't the foggiest. But Israel has a track record of not negotiating with anyone smaller than them, and that tells me they wouldn't be pulling out this rapidly if it were only Gaza telling them to. It would take a much larger nation threatening them to get them out of Gaza. Now I want to know who it is. ]

I agree, I suspect Obama told Israel he didn't want any sass from them and that they would have to pull out now since he didn't want anything to do with sponsoring Israel's war on Hamas, making him look bad or part of the same old same old, to sabotage him...etc.

To lose the United States as a defender of Israel would have sealed Israel's fate so Israel had to pull out and save what they had left.

Sure, Israel had 2-3 days left, but what were they going to accomplish during that time frame, anyway?

I suspect one way or other, America will begin to wean itself off of Israel, and Israel knows this.

But of course, what happens to Gaza now? Their entire city was levelled, their universities gone, hospitals hit, lives ruined. The rockets will not stop. There will be too many quests for revenge.

It's probably going to be awful for Israel and her neighbors in the following months and years unless something happens.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 05:24 AM by -Rugged Shark-
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The feeds will become active again if the ceasefire is broken and all hell breaks loose again.
Untill then the feeds are either offline, or showing raw pressreports before they're being aired.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 05:48 AM by DragonFire1024
Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
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The feeds will become active again if the ceasefire is broken and all hell breaks loose again.
Untill then the feeds are either offline, or showing raw pressreports before they're being aired.


This was just working switch434-01.castup.net... Still going, but a black screen. Sonara will not load for me right now.

Sonara does not have the live feed...just stock footage rewinds..is there anything else out there?

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