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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 11:42 AM by Nirgal

Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by Northern Raider
Cities are places for termites, drones, and the dead.

That has got be one of the creepiest descriptions of city life I've ever read

It may be creepy but I think that is reflected in its uncanny accuracy.

Many a morning I drive through The City and sneer at the ants running their little ant errands. I'm sure there are a few who, like myself, are going through the motions and regarding their peers with similar disdain.

They are, on the whole, nothing more than drones and the dead.

Fact!

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 01:10 PM by Northern Raider

Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by Northern Raider
Cities are places for termites, drones, and the dead.

That has got be one of the creepiest descriptions of city life I've ever read

A city is absolutely no different to a termite mound, either before or after its been sprayed with insecticide. When alive it is a place of worker drones all going about their individual duties and all reliant on the other drones to make everything work, as soon as they stop it becomes a giant necropolis. C,mon look at it objectively the only creatures to live in artificial communities of high population density are ants, termites and worker drone humans. And if you are an ant eater or ardvark or a terrorist it is sooo easy to kill a city.

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 01:19 PM by Northern Raider

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Each day in the city of the dead known as London 7 million people awake and follow their everyday routine of traipsing into the city ( some travelling 3 hours each way each day from as far away as York, Leeds,Brighton and Cardiff) and after doing their bit to sustain the city they traipse home again. During that day they work in an environment of high stress levels, high pollution, noisy and crowded towers, if they venture out face face the risk of crime rates up to 1000 times higher than other parts of the country. They can not safely raise children and their idea of greenery is a park they have to share with rapists, perverts, drug dealers, gangstas and gangbangers. Yet all it takes to bring the lot to a grinding halt is for one small terorist incident, or worse one failure in the power or signalling system on the railway.
Cities are places of the dead, Its just some of the deceased dont know yet that they are dead.

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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 02:57 PM by colec156

reply to post by Northern Raider

Ok the city I live in is a major city. Saying that it is another feeder city for London.

I know that major cities pose many dangers but being ready at home to have food stored, ability to cook the food, keep warm, have lighting and be able to listen on radio announcements I think is of most importance to seeing some sit x's out.

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:00 PM by blupblup

It depends on the situation, but i would say bugging in is best... if you can remain unnoticed.

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:26 PM by colec156

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Yeah like you said it all depends of the situation.

I do like Northern Raiders BOV idea of being able to go but still have a van that will go with you and provide some home comforts.

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:38 PM by blupblup

reply to post by colec156

very true... but situation is paramount.
i mean, if it were a situation where by nukes/missiles general weaponry was to be used in towns/cities and built up areas... then yeah... head for the hills, woods...jump in your vehicle and go...

But if it was a case of "NWO/PTB" coming and hunting everyone down... then perhaps bugging in and remaining unnoticed would be best.

it's a toughie... that is usually hotly debated and contested

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:45 PM by Dark Vengeance

As has been previously said it really depends on the situation. If terrorist attack, ie dirty bomb or chemical/biological attack then the target area(s) is likely to be major cities such as London (square mile) etc. But if the security services have prior intel then the target area maybe too hot and therefore the terrorists may target more of a soft target..... suburban shopping complex etc?? In which case a survivalist who at least listens to the news and tries to have their thumb on the pulse may decide that spending a few days at their aunties in the sticks is a better bet.
Biological attack is unlikely to be recognised as such until too many people are affected anyway.
I spend most of my time either in cambs or 80 miles away in essex. My plans involve having enough food/water etc to sustain me and my family at either location for a minimum of 1 month. But, in the event of SIT X, if the hairs on my neck raise then I have two "stand off" locations where we can assess the situation and try and make an educated decision of where we need to be.

Regards

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:55 PM by Nirgal

Originally posted by Northern Raider
Each day in the city of the dead known as London 7 million people awake and follow their everyday routine of traipsing into the city ( some travelling 3 hours each way each day from as far away as York, Leeds,Brighton and Cardiff) and after doing their bit to sustain the city they traipse home again. During that day they work in an environment of high stress levels, high pollution, noisy and crowded towers, if they venture out face face the risk of crime rates up to 1000 times higher than other parts of the country. They can not safely raise children and their idea of greenery is a park they have to share with rapists, perverts, drug dealers, gangstas and gangbangers. Yet all it takes to bring the lot to a grinding halt is for one small terorist incident, or worse one failure in the power or signalling system on the railway.
Cities are places of the dead, Its just some of the deceased dont know yet that they are dead.

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You make it sound so exciting!

Joking aside I believe you to be correct on most counts. Stress levels are ridiculous and I can't stand to walk in the parks because they're essentially nothing more than "follies". I'll keep on running my little ant-errands just a little longer, but i'll always keep an eye to the sky.

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 04:16 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by citizen smith

we hunkered down and survived Ike. we saw no problems personally but a police officer said the day after the storm there was a looting problem.The news said all was well.When I went out looking around I saw a lot of undesireable people walking around looking into businesses.The blockbuster i go to was looted during the storm.again the news mentioned no looting.
We did good good and helped our neighbors.
Houston is inescapable during a sudden crisis, we saw that during attempted rita evacuations.Survive@home or die on the highway.your choice.2weeks of texas summer without ac is not fun,but you can survive

reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 05:21 PM by tac109

You also have to think of the fact that if you live in a big city and you pack up and leave to go to a small country town, Some people might not like other people coming in to their town, and at first when they see your car coming they wont know who you are they might think your looters or gang bangers, Im just saying that theres a chance that some places you go the people might not want out siders coming in. Also, if your traveling by vehicle, and no gas stations are operational you might be forced to bug in where your vehicle runs out of gas, To me, I will try to bug in as long as I can depending on the situation, let all the sheep fight each other at the gas stations and food stores, I have enough supplies to hold the fort for awhile. But I think we can all agree that there are too many sceniaros to plan for, well just have to evaluate our deck of cards and make the best hand, when it happens.

reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 11:22 AM by colec156

With this thread, I am looking at ways of being prepared to lay low, days when for one reason or another you won't be able to leave.

Most people have a few candles and a flash light, but I am looking in to the longer term if need be.

If you had a retreat set up somewhere, your bugging in equipment would probably be similar any how.

reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 11:32 AM by Northern Raider

Originally posted by colec156
With this thread, I am looking at ways of being prepared to lay low, days when for one reason or another you won't be able to leave.

Most people have a few candles and a flash light, but I am looking in to the longer term if need be.

If you had a retreat set up somewhere, your bugging in equipment would probably be similar any how.

The logical step is to make things do two jobs, IE make your vacation location your bug out location, IE Holiday in the place you plan to bug out to, keep a caravan or camping trailer, or cabin, or room in a lodge booked during times of crisise. Make your holiday home your retreat. And naturally do away with the sedan/coupe / jeep/ stationwagon and drive a camper van or day van that has extras fitted to make it into a BOV.

Your everyday drive should be also a bug out vehicle capable of sustaining you for a few weeks ( extra fuel, water containers, camping cooker, 12 Volt fridge, Porta potty, Sleeping bags, tools fould weather clothing carried at all times.)

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:46 AM by colec156

reply to post by Northern Raider

Indeed I agree with the need to be have your BOV ready at all times.

I just caught on today of what happened in Manchester.
Again this shows the need to be ready to bug in.
Have the ability for light, heat, cook and food supplies.

reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 12:54 PM by apacheman

Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by colec156

#3 and 4 are the least likely in my lifetime in my opinion.

Good Luck to you all !

Have you checked this out?

ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...
www.urbansurvival.com...

February 18th seems like a very dangerous day to me, dangerous enough that I'm preparing for it. The Moon will be at apogee at the same time as these other converging objects making it problematical as to whether the interaction of the various gravititational effects will cause problems. Ther is a potential for the Moon to be struck and the resulting derbis showering upon the Earth; multiple small, medium, and large bits for several months: a "summer of hell", indeed.

Fortunately, I live where I can "bug in", since under this scenario I don't think going anywhere else would be much of an improvement for anyone. I'm stocking up on as many seeds as I can, planting an early garden, and hope to get a well dug soon. I've warned as many friends as I can, and told them that my place is a rally point if things go bad. I've asked them to prepare as well as they can within their budgets: crank lights, solar equipment, portable generators, MREs, medical kits, pedialyte, etc. I've also informed them that if the rocks rain down and they come, this isn't a democracy: my place, my rules. Fortunately everyone's agreed to this as I've got the most experience and am the most prepared physically and mentally to deal with such a crisis. I have a large library already, and will be picking up how-to books to fill the holes; I suggest recording the Science Channel program "How it's Made": not only do you see how to make something, you see the tools with which it's made, crucial information if you need to start from near-scratch again.

I've also studied my local terrain by walking and googleearth to locate defensible positions, choke points, observation points and good ambush sites. If push came to shove, with a dozen or so people we could hold off a fair-sized mob, of zombies, desperadoes, or military, or whatever.

Be sure to check out those links: I'm not saying anything is certain, just potentially very dangerous, and it's best to be prepared.

reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 01:02 PM by MREALE

If you have the time and resources available now I would suggest these.

For under 10K can supply you and your family for a years stint.
Also..

one of these can withstand weather,nuclear, or bio attacks.
Waiting to get mine..

reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 12:56 PM by colec156

reply to post by MREALE

It all looks good with the shelter and buying all them goodies in. Problem is I just have 10k at the moment to buy them in.
I am doing things little by little as I can afford.

If something does go horribly wrong on the 18th of Feb well it will happen and I like many of you will have to do my best at what we our aiming to do.... Survive !!!!

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