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Topic started on 9-1-2009 @ 01:15 PM by Iamonlyhuman

Former Pentagon chief predicts Iran crisis soon

"Indeed, I believe the crisis point will be reached in his first year in office. So on the nuclear front, President Obama will face a daunting set of problems, none of which can be solved unilaterally."

Too bad we don't have RFK around... Here we goooo...........

reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:41 PM by phinubian

Well here is the thing, the news media keep sanitizing the situation in Gaza, or rather coming up with the theories why at this point the War there was commenced and that Israel did it so that they could be finished by the time the new president comes in or some other ridiculous theory.

I think that what happened at the U.N. by them passing a Ceasefire agreement with the U.S. abstaining what this does is lead the way for a coalition of the U.N. somehow to step in if both sides do not abide, in that respect, suppose another U.N. member country decides to take the lead over the U.S. standing on the sideline and then send some of their own troops there along with U.N. to assist and the U.S. reject it, things get out of hand and some unforseen event occurs, or worse Iran and Lebanon get involved there is not a quick end to something of that magnitude occurring.

It is easy to see this whole thing become World War, when U.N. member nations start aligning with either side, all of the voting that has occured to this point are clearly showing divisions.

[edit on 9-1-2009 by phinubian]

reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:42 PM by ConservativeJack

ANOTHER DAY

ANOTHER PREDICTION ABOUT IRAN

reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:45 PM by zysin5

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Right.. Im thinking more along the lines of Pakistan being invaded. Or will be used against China and Russia.

No Iran is off the menu list now that Obama is on his way in. Obama doesnt want a War with Iran. But will be more than happy to use Pakistan as a staging front to bring down China/Russia. IMO

reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:12 PM by donwhite

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Too bad we don't have RFK around... Here we goooo...........

What a terrible year 1968 was for Democrats! Especially LEFT leaning Dems like me. As the young Union soldier who was shot in the stomach in the Civil War and knew he would bleed to death said, “I am kilt!”

After being assured we were winning, in January the Vietnamese staggered us with the country-wide Tet Offensive. Then in March, Pres. Johnson shocked the country by declining to run for a second term as president. The best friend black Americans ever had was out. A victim of the Vietnam War. Then just a few days later in April, Martin Luther King Jr. was shot to death in Memphis by a nondescript James Earl Ray.

Two months later in June at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles around midnight after winning the highly significant California primary, the "New Messiah" of the Dems was shot to death. Robert Francis Kennedy a senator from NY. Killed by a young Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan. A misguided young man who ought to be paroled but who will never be. Despite much overworked and sanctimonious claims of being religious, Americans are a very UNFORGIVING people. Ask Fidel. Recall J Robert Oppenheimer.

Then as if the Dems had not suffered enough Chicago’s tough anti-free speech Mayor Richard J. Daley precipitated a POLICE RIOT at Grant Park, wrecking the Democrats otherwise good chance to win over Nixon in November with VP Hubert Humphrey, a/k/a “The Happy Warrior.”

Former SecDef William Perry said "It seems clear that Israel will not sit by idle while Iran takes the final steps toward becoming a nuclear power," hoping that more vigorous U.S. and international diplomacy could reverse North Korea's nuclear weapons program. But he was less confident about stopping Iran's ambitions.

"President Obama will almost certainly face a serious crisis with Iran," Perry said. "Indeed, I believe the crisis point will be reached in his first year in office. So on the nuclear front, President Obama will face a daunting set of problems, none of which can be solved unilaterally."

Perry was Pentagon chief when the U.S. negotiated a "framework agreement" with North Korea that froze its nuclear weapons program. In exchange, the U.S., Japan and South Korea agreed to provide the North with two reactors that would produce electricity but pose a lesser risk of nuclear proliferation.

Iran denies that its nuclear program is intended to build weapons. The Bush administration declined to negotiate directly with Iran.

Obama has said he favors "tough and direct diplomacy with Iran without preconditions."

Perry warned, "Indeed, I believe that today we are clearly at the tipping point of nuclear proliferation. And if the world does tip, it will be irreversible and dangerous beyond the imagination of most people . . the spread of nuclear weapons to North Korea and other countries raises the danger that a terrorist group eventually could get its hands on a nuclear weapon and use it against the United States.”
www.sfgate.com.../n/a/2009/01/08/national/w111256S95.DTL&feed=rss.business

This worrisome proliferation of nuclear weapons acquired in violation of the UN's N.P.T. - Non Proliferation Treaty - began with ISRAEL. It is claimed that the plutonium for the Israeli bombs came from France, which may be true, but it is also likely the plutonium originated in the good ole U S of A and was trans-shipped to France and then to Israel to provide COVER to the US president. Israel now has between 20 and 300 nuclear weapons. And with only a wink from the US. ONE Down.

Then came India. It is locked in a 60 years long struggle with Pakistan over the rich area, Kashmir. India decided to make an atom bomb. We smiled as they developed their own nuclear arsenal. Probably 10 to 50 atom bombs for India. TWO down.

Then came Pakistan. Outnumbered people-wise by 5 or 6 to 1 by India, Pakistan also wanted nuclear weapons to counter India’s. Add Pakistan to the list of nations flaunting the NPT with America’s blessing! And add another 10 to 25 atom bombs. THREE down!

Then came the megalomaniac Kim Jong Il. America was OFF and then ON towards NK. HOT for a while, then COLD. Not the way to treat a paranoid man with a treatable mental disorder! It happened on Bush43's watch, and it is estimated NK has enough fissionable material for 1-10 nuclear bombs. FOUR down!

And last but not least, comes now Iran. Iran is bordered on its west by Pakistan, in violation of the NPT and with American approved atom bombs. Iran is only 150 miles ffrom India, a recently honored NPT violator by Bush43. Iran is south of the Russian Federation by 200 miles. And despite Israel being some considerable distance to its west, Israel - like the US - is prone to preemptive strikes. Is Iran to be number FIVE down?

The United States should be the leader of the world especially in the non-proliferation area. Yet to the rest of the world, we have lost all our credibility. First, by aiding Israel and then, maybe Pakistan. We have "sanctified" India’s violations. We tolerate all three of the rogue nuclear states as long as they remain our ally or are useful to us.

We have no moral ground. We have muffed it on the North Korean front and we have muffed it for the past 8 years on the Iran front. Let us hope our next president is smarter than the current one.

So when - not if - Osama bin Laden atom bombs Washington DC, WHO is really to blame?

[edit on 1/9/2009 by donwhite]

reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:32 PM by sos37

Originally posted by zysin5
reply to post by ConservativeJack

Right.. Im thinking more along the lines of Pakistan being invaded. Or will be used against China and Russia.

No Iran is off the menu list now that Obama is on his way in. Obama doesnt want a War with Iran. But will be more than happy to use Pakistan as a staging front to bring down China/Russia. IMO

Bring DOWN China/Russia??? Are you insane? I'm hoping Obama leaves those countries the hell alone. In a war against those two united, the U.S. wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. They've got the manpower, the funds, the weapons. Heck all they would need to do is rattle the nuclear sabre at our Democratic governing body and we would cave like pansies!

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