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Are ATS members SMARTER than Congress?


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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:56 PM by czacza


smarter or not, it does not matter. first of all they are not READING the Bills they are voting for or against. 99% of them is just listen to the party leaders and that is the way they decide.

there is small number of parliament members who actually can read by themselfes. and these are the people who sometimes rise a questions.

and party leaders are under the influence of the real masters here. and this bail out cash was for them. so whta was a chance to have a different result? there was no.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:57 PM by ProfEmeritus


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no are you? im 20 years old could I be a senator or congressman? Yes will I? 50/50 I will make a run for public office in my early 30s



Maybe by then, you'll be wiser too.
Telling people to shut up, when they have asked a simple question of you, is not the way to influence people, win friends, or get elected. It is also a violation of the T & C at ATS.

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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:00 PM by ProfEmeritus


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smarter or not, it does not matter. first of all they are not READING the Bills they are voting for or against. 99% of them is just listen to the party leaders and that is the way they decide.


There we go. We've found a way to save a lot of money. Instead of having 535 members of Congress, we can just have TWO, one for each party. They can get into a boxing ring, and duke it out. Winner takes all.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:02 PM by ConservativeJack


Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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no are you? im 20 years old could I be a senator or congressman? Yes will I? 50/50 I will make a run for public office in my early 30s



Maybe by then, you'll be wiser too.
Telling people to shut up, when they have asked a simple question of you, is not the way to influence people, win friends, or get elected. It is also a violation of the T & C at ATS.

[edit on 9-1-2009 by ProfEmeritus]



what?

whats your deal kid

thin skin or just picking a fight?

[edit on 9-1-2009 by ConservativeJack]



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:10 PM by ProfEmeritus


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what? whats your deal kid thin skin or just picking a fight?


Neither. I was simply asking you to abide by the T & C. If you want to act like a thug, by telling people to shut up, when everyone on this thread has been polite, and obeyed the T & C, kindly go to some thread where you will feel more welcome, with your kind of poster, rude, and avoiding the original question of the thread.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:19 PM by ConservativeJack











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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:20 PM by soldiermom


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Of course it is. But that's where it's headed unless they start LISTENING to the American citizens. I'm not holding my breath on that.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:27 PM by ProfEmeritus


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Of course it is. But that's where it's headed unless they start LISTENING to the American citizens. I'm not holding my breath on that.


Yes, at some point, America will reach a breaking point. Today, the unemployment figures were released -7.2%, and that doesn't include the people whose unemployment benefits have run out, or have stopped looking for jobs. I suspect when unemployment reaches double digits in a few months, we will be at the breaking point.
finance.yahoo.com...

"There is no end in sight in terms of layoffs," said economist Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics. "January could be worse because some companies put layoffs on hold because of holiday sensitivities." Not only are employers slashing jobs; they also are cutting workers' hours and forcing some into part-time work. The average work week in December fell to 33.3 hours, the lowest level on records dating to 1964 -- and a sign of more job reductions in the



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:28 PM by liquidsmoke206


If this thread was a discussion of a bill then ProfEmeritus and ConservativeJack would look pretty silly right now.

Proof not ALL members are smarter than congress.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:30 PM by ConservativeJack


Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
If this thread was a discussion of a bill then ProfEmeritus and ConservativeJack would look pretty silly right now.

Proof not ALL members are smarter than congress.


who are you lmfao

and why are you trying instigate some fight

is that all that people do on here?

i did that in 7th grade...been 10 years

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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:33 PM by muzzleflash


lol yes ATS members are smarter than congress in countless ways

even the people that make silly absurd threads are 1000x smarter than congress members

its pathetic i know (of congress) to be that stupid

but then agian, wouldnt the american populace be even dumber?
since they elected these baboons in the first place...



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Gregarious


How about if we get the military guards keeping us out of Congress, to keep them IN the building, just bringing them food and medical. I think they already have a library and gym. Maybe we could 'rehabilitate' them, and try to get them to be honest enough to release back into civilian population. Oh, and stop feeding them all our money. Dollar a day is about what I think they already pay other inmates.
Of the People, By the People, and Against the People.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:22 PM by Bullhorn


I don't even think you can answer that question. If all the members of congress were actually trying to represent the people and basing their decisions on what's best for the country, maybe you could. I think we can all agree that ATS members in general are more honest since they are able to voice their own opinion while members of congress are usually guided by their "superiors".
Most of them are probably very intelligent people, but they don't use their intelligence to solve the country's problems. The few people who dare speak the truth and talk about real solutions (like Ron Paul) are portrayed as nutjobs who don't know what they're talking about.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:23 PM by Copernicus


They are over worked, stressed, lazy and comfortable in their position. Why should they bother to do more than they have to? Its the same in every organization. People lose the motivation to do their best after a while if nobody notices it.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Jbird


Ok, Folks. Let's Stay on Topic and stop the personal sniping, Please.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:47 PM by FlyersFan


Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Are ATS members SMARTER than Congress

MOST are. That's not hard to do. But considering what I've seen here in the past few months - some are just as dumb as those in Congress.

Barney Frank

Is a part of the reason we are in the mess we are in. Groups like ACORN using intimidation to make banks give bad loans are another. Lawyers like Obama who sued City Bank, forcing them to give affirmative action style loans to people who couldn't afford them is another. (Cas­e N­ame Buycks-R­obe­r­son­­ v­. Cit­iba­n­­k Fe­d. Sa­v­. Ba­n­­k Fa­ir­ H­ousin­­g/Le­n­­din­­g/In­­sur­a­n­­ce­ Docke­t­ / Cour­t­ 94 C 4094 ( N­­.D. Ill. ) FH­-IL-0011, St­a­t­e­/T­e­r­r­it­or­y Illin­­ois)

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Second question: What now?

We are still screwed because the same people are in and they are doing the same things. The same old corruption style politics and/or the same old people.... Caroline Kennedy walking into a senate seat for example. Same old Clintonistas and Bushies are in Washington. (NO CHANGE!) A full cleaning of gov't would have to be done, but I don't think the Bildebergers would go for it. I think we are stuck.

Yes, that's fatalistic. But that's what I see.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 03:23 PM by LiquidMirage


Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Would we have allowed a bill to pass that gave all the power to one person to use the funds as he sees fit?



No!


Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Let's try to keep partisanship out of this. I believe that both sides are 100% to blame, the Administration and Congress.



You are correct!

I always say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!


Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Now, I ask this simple question. Were we ATS members smarter than Congress when it came to the bill as it was written and voted on?



I do believe a sack of apples is smarter than congress my friend.

"Suppose you are and idiot and suppose you are a member of congress...but I repeat myself" ~~~Mark Twaine?

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Second question: What now?



Multiple Choice: Choose the correct answer

a.) Stand by helplessly as government rapes you and destroys the
country
b.) Determine whether Brittany Spears is wearing panties or not
c.) Have a margarita
d.) Turn on MSNBC to receive your daily instructions
e.) Assemble a 10 million man militia, arm yourself to the teeth, go to
Washington D.C., retake country



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:17 PM by ryckE


Well, as our founding fathers made it, we are able to abolish our government, laws, amendments, everything. But people are too lazy and want every one to make laws for them and stuff. I think its bogus.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:24 PM by kettlebellysmith


"Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a congressman. But I repeat myself."

Mark Twain.

He knew ATSers were smarter than congress before there was ATS.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:43 PM by kettlebellysmith


I believe it is time for a march on Washington. Martin Luther King managed it. Louis Farrakan managed the million man march in Washingtion. Is there not some leader, among the average Joe's, who can bring people together and organize an a march on Washington of the unemployed, disenfranchised, disaffected citizens who have had it with the representative government which is no longer representative. Yes, we are smarter than our congressmen. We are smarter, by a long shot, because we are out here in the trenches We know that we can't spend like drunken sailors, because we have to take care of our families. We have to pay mortgages, by groceries, put gas in our cars, and oh yes, pay taxes, which pay the salaries of the social parasites that sit on a hill looking down on the peons and thinking they have it made.
A march on Washington would make an impact. It would call attention to the fact that we know them for what they are and thae we are, as a nation, "mad as hell, and we aren't going to take it any more."
I am confident that we could, with proper leadership, honestly get more than a million people to march on our Capital.
It's worth a shot. Or am I just rabble-rousing?



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