The ATS editor doesn't know, but I am George LoBuono, the author of that entire version that someone copied and put on a blog (which is okay w. me).
I put the first version up on Michael Salla's website two days ago--when I thought I was over a bad cold, but wasn't. So, yesterday I fixed the post
up, edited it and added info from Peter Dale Scott about the Rockefellers--which is why the version I put on ATS yesterday was better. Check Salla's
P4C discussion board on his website--there I put this up, under my name, first two days ago, then yesterday I did the edited version on Salla's site
again, also under my name. That blog version (my first, unedited version) was copied, later.
There is a Rothschild connection to AXA, of course. AXA bought the Biderman DuPont family's company the Equitable about 5-7 years ago. And the
Equitable was bought in the 1930's by Biderman DuPonts from Rockefeller, whose founding of it was entwined in Rothschild finance. Some Biderman
DuPonts are a nightmare w. implications in a huge web of US murder-corruption and rackets, DuPont family sponsorship of crimes against humanity, and
more. For example, DuPonts own a major, if not controlling segment of Boeing, Rockwell North American, Du Pont chemical, Coke, GM, and more, plus have
huge deposits at Citicorp, which is a deep Rothschild financial connection.
So, remember, Rothschild directorship in Blackwell is merely the tip of the iceberg.
--George LoBuono, author of Alien Mind, free to read at www.alienmindbook.org
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ATS editor, this is my writing (my copyright) not that of someone else, so it isn't a secondary reference. For the record (my edited version):
Why the Chicago Tribune belittles aliens
Epic Rothschild involvement in Tribune-owner Sam Zell's finance may
be the reason why the recent Chicago Tribune editorial goes so far
out of its way to ask Obama not to disclose UFO info. The Tribune's
editorial says disclosure will probably show there's no evidence of
aliens, which the editorial says would let the air out of a pleasant
popular fantasy (existence of aliens). It's a flimsy kind of logic—
hardly worth writing an editorial about.
So what's the real reason why Tribune owner Sam Zell belittles the
subject? His financial survival now depends on European financiers
named Rothschild, and Rothschilds are the European family most deeply
tied to US black budget control and secrecy of alien programs.
Sam Zell bought the Chicago Tribune group in April of 2007 by going
heavily into debt to make the purchase. To get money to shore himself
up, Zell sold his Equity Office Properties Trust (biggest office
owner in the US) to the Rothschilds' Blackstone Group for $39
billion. That's a lot of money--but was it really cash? Apparently
not. Zell's Tribune corporation soon declared bankruptcy in December
of 2008---Zell didn't have the money to save it.
As Wayne Madsen noted recently, Randall Rothschild is Managing
Director for the Blackstone Group, and Lord Nathaniel "Jacob"
Rothschild was a former Blackstone board member. Just a few months
ago, Blackstone shocked the financial world by buying many billions
worth of mortgage derivatives AFTER such mortgages fell into deep
trouble. The question is, why were Rothschilds buying up so much bad
mortgage debt during the worst economic crisis since the Great
Depression? Why would Rothschilds buy bad mortgage debt when everyone
else was fleeing from it?
When all accounts are settled, Rothschilds' Blackstone may be little
more than a carefully bundled pool of debt wrapped within other debt--
a by-product of fiat finance in which banks lend out 15-30 times more
money than they actually have in cash reserves. Even in good economic
times, banks don't really have the money they pretend to have. And
now, amid economic disaster when big banks are failing, people like
Rothschilds may not have "real" money, at all. When all is laid bare,
their total corporate obligations almost certainly exceed the real
cash that they pretend to have.
However, to fool us into thinking they're in total control, they
simply buy up more debt (making us debt slaves to them) while they
push the bad money dominoes to fall in someone else's direction, i.e.
your retirement funds are wiped out, your government must go bankrupt-
-not Rothschilds. Apparently, Rothschilds have deep financial
leverage over Bush and Henry Paulson via Goldman, Blackstone,
Citicorp, and Swiss finance. Rothschilds and their US associates may
have pressured for a quick bailout, which would be why Blackstone
recently risked billions on mortgage derivatives that other investors
were fleeing from. And if such was the case, then Rothschilds were
trading on inside information, which is illegal. They could go to
prison for it.
Blackstone's debt liabilities appear to be surrounded by financial
instruments that will take down other derivatives-laden companies
before they take down Rothschild's Blackstone. Nonetheless, the
question is whether Rothschilds are actually solvent, at present.
And who are the Rothschilds? Their close Rockefeller and Bush family
financial ties make them the most deeply connected European family in
the US black budget complex, which semi-privately manages alien-
related programs and downed alien technology. Over a century ago,
John D. Rockefeller partly relied on Rothschild finance to steal
control of the US oil industry (it was a scheme to create a J.P.
Morgan-led bunch of monopolies that relied on Rothschild/British
finance). So, Rockefellers depend on Rothschilds, and Rockefellers
are at the peak of black budget management of all alien programs in
the USA. See a pattern in this?
But are Rothschilds really vulnerable when there are economic
downturns? Of course. Just a few years ago after energy companies
blatantly conned and extorted $8-9 billion from California during
artificially contrive power shortages, Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante
filed a suit to get the money back. There was proof of criminal
conspiracy and price fixing. But what happened next? Actor Arnold
Schwarzenegger flew down to Palm Springs to meet with Warren Buffet
and convicted criminal Michael Millken, who may have assured Arnold
that Arnold could win the California governorship--the money was
there for him--if he'd do them one not-so-small favor: dismiss
Bustamante's lawsuit so that men like Buffet and Rothschild wouldn't
lose the money they earned via investments in the rip-off.
Schwarzenegger flew to England at the time to meet with... guess who?
Jacob Rothschild, the Blackstone director, and Warren Buffet. Perhaps
you've seen that photo of Schwarzenegger trotting to his plane,
confident he would soon become governor, with Buffet and Rothschild
walking beside him on the tarmac. In his first weeks as governor,
Schwarzenegger dismissed Bustamante's lawsuit. Analysts suggest that
it may have been a dirty deal to use Schwarzenegger to get the
moneymen off of the hook. They must have been desperate.
And if they were desperate when only $8-9 billion was at risk,
imagine how desperate they are when the current $30 TRILLION dollars
is at risk in bad mortgage derivatives and "credit default swaps,"
which is the current estimate. Would Arnold Schwarzenegger really
have anything to do with bad people? In his book Barry and the Boys,
Daniel Hopsicker reports that Schwarzenegger attended the lavish
Florida wedding of mafia financier Meyer Lansky's heir-apparent,
Alvin Malnik. Arnie probably wasn't in it for the girlies alone.
The truth is, if you ask professional bankers they'll tell you that
finance is like the dirty underside of politics that you're now
seeing in the Blagojevich scandal. Big financial companies fail, they
lose their total real cash value during a disaster like the current
one, but they survive by manipulating the financial derivatives
pyramid so that the least criminal of financial companies take the
hit. The perennial financial mafiosos circle their wagons and try to
insulate men like Rothschild and Rockefeller from appearing to be
insolvent.
Meanwhile, Rothschilds were hit hard by the unraveling of the old
financial mirage. It IS a mirage because the dangerously diluted
money, the fiat entre was only as good as was the illusion of total
control of credit (and the fear they can put in you). When the
financial mirage unravels, Rothschilds stand to be ruined, whether
they pretend to have weathered it all or not.
But how do they survive? Who bails them out?
Some years ago, Goldman Sachs hired a beat-up former football player
named Henry Paulson to be its chief executive. Paulson wasn't
particularly bright, to put it bluntly. He used to work for John
Ehrlichman, the Nixon aide who went to jail for Watergate. Goldman
Sachs is one of the few sellers of the Federal Reserve Bank's bonds,
which means that Goldman Sachs (Paulson's main personal money source)
is part of the Federal Reserve mafia, which essentially steals money
straight from the spigot where it's printed. Rothschilds are tightly
interconnected with Goldman finance and with Rockefeller, Warburg,
and other Federal Reserve Bank "owners." *The US government doesn't
own the Federal Reserve Bank that prints US money. It's private.
So, two months ago Bush's Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson reportedly
warned Congressional leaders in a conference call that there would be
martial law here if Congress didn't vote to approve Paulson's
original $700 billion bailout plan----Paulson is deeply entwined in,
and dependent upon, Rothschild-Goldman and Rockefeller finance. And
what did Paulson do with the $700 billion that Congress naively gave
him to spend pretty much as he wanted--without written guarantees
that it would be used for bank loans to US taxpayers?
Paulson let banks like Rockefeller's Morgan Chase, and Morgan Stanley
(originally was a Rothschild correspondent bank) use the money to buy
other banks in order to eliminate their competition. The money was
also used to give billions in bonuses to bank executives. Remember
how Rothschild's Blackstone was recently buying up bad mortgage
derivatives when they were all going bad---for some strange reason?
Why would Rothschilds do that?
The answer should be obvious.
Rothschilds may have been the biggest casualty of the financial
crisis, maybe ruined by it, but they clearly had the Bush
administration rigged to do their bidding, i.e. the bailout. To
Rothschilds and Rockefellers, Bush appointee Henry Paulson is little
more than a pawn who was used to sack the entire US treasury,
eventually coercing it to spend TRILLIONS on bad mortgage
derivatives, which Blackstone was then buying in huge quantities--by
the billions. Had the dominos continued to fall, Rothschilds and
Rockefeller might ultimately have been bankrupted, and their only way
out was to use Paulson to threaten martial law here then coerce
Congress into haphazardly handing out trillions so that their bad
debts would be covered. At the time, their necks were in the noose
because there was no "real" money to cover their epic scams. Which is
why Bush and Paulson worked so hard to tell the end was near.
But do men like Rockefeller really have control over high US
officials? According to Peter Dale Scott, "in late 1968 Kissinger,
while advising the Johnson administration, gave secret information to
the Nixon campaign that helped Nixon to obstruct the peace agreement
in Vietnam that was about to be negotiated at the peace talks then
taking place in Paris." It was treason, intended to thwart President
Johnson's peace plans, then get Nixon elected instead. Scott
continues, "At the time Nixon's campaign manager, John Mitchell (one
of the very few in on the secret), told Sy Hersh that "I thought
Henry [Kissinger] was doing it because Nelson [Rockefeller] wanted
him to. Nelson asked Henry to help and he did."
"In 1980 the so-called October Surprise, with the help of people
inside CIA, helped ensure that the Americans held hostage in Iran
would not be returned before the inauguration of Reagan. This was a
major factor in securing the defeat of incumbent Jimmy Carter. Once
again, the influence of the Rockefellers can be discerned. A CIA
officer later reported hearing Joseph V. Reed, an aide to David
Rockefeller, comment in 1981 to William Casey, the newly installed
CIA Director, about their joint success in disrupting Carter's plans
to bring home the hostages." (from Peter Dale Scott's "Martial Law,
the Financial Bailout, and War" in Global Research, Jan 8, '09) Once
again, it was treason involving Rockefellers. But that's just the tip
of the iceberg.
Ultimately, Rockefeller crimes go all the way to Nellis Air Force
base and a scheme to let potentially dangerous, reportedly
violent "tall white" aliens base themselves here, then let so-
called "gray" aliens weather a shoot-out with US soldiers yet sweep
right back into black budget favor and offer advanced technology
trinkets in exchange for deeper penetration right here, in the USA.
Official disclosure would let the public know about that. Official
whistleblowers corroborate each others' reports on the subject.
In recent months, there was no "real" money to cover all the bad
financial derivatives that were failing, so Treasury Secretary Henry
Paulson was apparently told to essentially terrorize people like you
and I. Bush warned that the sky would fall within a week if he didn't
get the money. Despite the bailout, the stock market dropped below
the 8000 level that Bush said would be ruinous, yet the sky hasn't
fallen (the Republican party has). In other words, it appears that
the only real money that's propping up a relatively small, bizarrely
corrupt financial mafia is the money they're ripping off from
taxpayers, at the moment. Your retirement just took a huge hit, but
their pool of bad debt investments is getting bailed out. Ironic,
isn't it? Their necks are in the noose, they're going down---and
we're supposed to be afraid for our lives, instead.
It seems they want us to be their slaves, forever.
Since the formation of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913, our entire
society has been reduced to subservience to a small clutch of
financial gangsters, perennial mass offenders. Ask anyone how we'll
get over the current crisis, and the answer is almost always the
same. We'll simply wait for a (now failing) financial elite to decide
what to do. But that financial elite is so steeped in crimes against
humanity—for generations running, that they're incapable of sorting
out right from wrong. Few among us even suspect that we can declare
the old system dead and quickly re-design a new one. It's as though
people have been trained to follow in a ruinous rut without even
thinking about it. Maybe now, some will search for better, more
sustainable ideas.
The truth is, the Rothschild family's game is a diluted and fake
money illusion, conning Jewish families into an entirely amoral (in
Rothschild's case a cultish) monetary mafia. But elite or chosen or
illusory notions aren't worth crap when China's industry is pre-
eminent, which is real money and real goods rather than a financial
mirage masked by a mercenary US dodo regime. Meanwhile, those who
depend most on the illusion of financial total control, rather than
real assets, lose the most when the pyramid crumbles. And that means
the Rothschilds are finally over with---if we don't pay to bail them
out.
But we were talking about disclosure…
When Sam Zell's Tribune declares that aliens probably don't exist, it
all points to Rothschild control of Sam Zell's financial future.
Blackstone, a Rothschild company just "bought" Sam Zell's Equity
Office Properties for $39 billion. That means that now that Zell's
Tribune company is bankrupt, Zell's financial survival hinges on the
value of Rothschild-Blackstone's ability to pay him. So now we see
Zell's newspaper in Chicago, site of a recent multiply-witnessed
O'Hare airport flying disk appearance, openly talking about aliens as
just a fantasy. It's better not to disclose, says the Tribune.
Are Rothschilds trying to dissuade us of the reality of aliens for
some hidden reason? Consider the following: Rothschild finance is
deeply tied to Rockefeller finance. Rockefeller's Council on Foreign
Relations, a kind of boys club for the financial mafia's brown-noses,
was patterned on a Rothschild business group in England. The two are
closely interconnected. So Rothschilds have a deep, kindred and
policy-group role in US black budget programs privately controlled by
David Rockefeller and his confrere. As Michael Salla pointed out in
his book Exopolitics, Nelson Rockefeller was prime in allowing "tall
white" aliens a base in the Indian Springs area of Nellis Air Force
range, and Rockefellers stole control of alien programs away from US
presidents under Eisenhower, who mistakenly allowed Nelson
Rockefeller to redesign US national security structures in 1953.
Think about that for a moment. Rockefeller, whose reported CIA crime
rackets tie deeply into Rothschild finance via the Anglo-American
arrangement (and its Big Brother strains), allowed materially-
motivated aliens to be based right here, in the United States. And
Nelson Rockefeller was the apparent leader in removing US presidents
from an active role in overseeing alien programs. Imagine how much
could go wrong, as a result---abductions, a widely-reported breeding
program and infiltration phase, then manipulated crises--as some have
reported--to de-stabilize and "pacify" our planet, making it easier
for the gray alignment to gain more influence here.
Ultimately, the Tribune's trite dismissal of aliens appears to be the
work of the same cabal that has killed whistleblowers and has lied to
us about aliens for decades. That, in turn, has allowed the gray
alignment to deepen its foothold here over the years, absent public
knowledge of the fact. No wonder Rothschild-dependent Sam Zell is
trying to belittle the notion of aliens.
***Here's more background about the Chicago Tribune: About 50 years
ago it was run by a Col. McCormick who made it a conservative, if not
a reactionary bastion of weak journalism. The Tribune is the paper
that printed that "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline that Truman held up
famously in that historic photo. Although Col. McCormick was
sidelined by the 1970's, the Tribune endorsed Bush Jr. in 2004. And
when the Tribune bought the LA Times, many of the best Times writers
left the place. The LA Times went rapidly downhill and now the entire
Tribune corp. is bankrupt.
A final footnote: In April 2008, while in LA, Sam Zell made a rash
comment about the subprime mortgage crisis. He said, "This country
needs a cleansing. We need to clean out all those people who never
should have bought in the first place, and not give them sympathy."
Now that Zell's Tribune company is bankrupt, should he and his anti-
disclosure rhetoric be cleaned out, also?
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I've heard that disclosure is a year away now, plus so much is about to happen, that I don't even know if that will do us much good. As if too
little, too late.
Though right now, with other nations stepping up as key players, and the US being humbled in the world scene, surely this is all going to play out
with the dam busting.
I've been wondering, with Obama, and the backing everyone says he has, and Russia, China and along with many others refusing to be suppressed any
longer, if the entire nwo information (because nwo has already, not even stealth but slightly solidified, seeable, been running the show through the
UK and US for years) is the wests last ditch effort to confuse people as to the emerging sharing of power.
In any case, I'm bumping this thread again.
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