Kissinger writes: 2009 will mark beginning of NWO

Why do people think the NWO = concentration camps, global starvation, blah blah blah people dying.

ohhhh because you DONT like fear mongering. ...oh.. ok. Unless a 1 world government steps in and takes over the planet. mankind is #ed.

what happened when what his face unified china? sure people died, # happened blah blah blah.

you all just see the negative. too small minded to see the big picture.


heres my question...if the NWO takes over, you think there plan is to reform the planet so that 5 million people can live in peace? ahhaha....... so they would want to kill off their best resource? ...doubtful.

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i welcome to NWO, if some must die for the rest to eek out a better existence, so be it. hell i'll be the spokesperson.

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i would think they are publishing it, because they HAVE achieved amazing feats, citizens to lazy to get off their asses and do something about it.
WOOT for the american philosophy

"...someone else will do it"

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I play alot of online games with americans and have worked with more then a few and that is the general disposition most of them have.

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have you ever thought that maybe Osama is against the NWO ? and the spin is exactly that.

why else the WTC's? because they are the easiest targets... ? I think if your going to hit something your gonna hit something with alot more meaning to those in the "know" rather then, well...its big...lets take it down.

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i love how everyone is so RAWR lets get something done, yet they dont get off their chair and forget about it when family guy comes on. or they are indifferent with the mentality of.. -----------see above. ...... hahha. I cant wait for the NWO

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6 billion on the planet (prolly more) 2,500 hold power. maybe what... 50,000,000 in military? how many willing to defect against the powers that be, inorder to save us? probably alot more then you think.

so...

.0005 billion vs 5 billion some odd number

yet no one stands up.

thats like 1 v 50,000

and how many civ's know how to make explosives? a ton. lets get this # started or shut the # up and take it in the pooper like youve been doing.

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gg nubs

People are concerned about the NWO because they know what types of people are working for a NWO. Elite members of government, banking, and business are not trustworthy, as they are also involved in the secret societies which are working towards a NWO. They act like they care about the people when they're in public. But their allegiances are to the masters they serve, the orders they belong to, and the demons they worship, NOT to the people they are supposed to serve. These people are only interested in gaining power, and control over all of humanity. They don't want freedom, which most humans long for, but would like to benefit themselves by becoming a global dictatorship.

They belong to groups who believe "Chaos" will lead to "Order". They manufacture chaos in an attempt to make people beg for order. Free will means nothing to them. Many would call this type of behavior "evil". The people who disagree with the NWO will not receive the same treatment as the sheeple. If you choose to be a "spokesperson" for the NWO, I'm sure you'll be treated well. As long as you don't care about freedom, enjoy licking the boots of your leaders, and never question the motives of the elite, you'll be a perfect slave.

However, those of us who choose to disagree with the decisions of government, or prefer the ideology of nation states over global governance, or would like the freedoms granted to us by our national laws, have a right to dissent. And just as history shows, it will be the dissenters who will have to face the punishment for not bowing down to the dictators. We will face death, because we believe death on your feet is better than slavery on your knees.

How people like you can justify the end of sovereign nation states, I will never understand. You say mankind is screwed if we don't have a global government, but I must ask: WHY? There is no problem which requires a global government as a solution. If people realized that the more power we give away, the less control we have, they might see that individual countries benefit by having their own governments to elect, monitor, and pressure. Global government will only lead to less power in the hands of the people, and more power in the hands of a few.

Fascism and communism are one in the same. China clearly shows this. The people in China have few freedoms, and they live in a dictatorship. Any dissent is punished, and the people are slaves for the Corporations of the West. Do you like the sound of this? Maybe you'd love to move there. China is a model for the NWO elite. So tell me, what's the "big picture"?

You are clearly in favor of a NWO, but you give no reasons for your conclusions. You say "if some must die", so maybe you just don't care about human life. Why does anyone need to die, because some leaders have told you so? And this doesn't concern you? You say you'll be a spokesperson, but you're assuming they'll let you live. Well, I guess if you beg and plead, and lick their boots, you might end up as one of the "lucky" slaves.

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If you are one of those who "must die" so that others can live in comfort, will you still be okay with the scheme? Or are you just assuming that you're so wonderful that your NWO masters will spare you while killing millions (and perhaps billions) of others?

Very difficult to de-code...

I know that Kissinger is a powerful major globalist, but has he ever been wrong in his predictions? I don't know enough of his writings to comment...

I find the opening paragraph the most difficult to undertand, could anyone provide a translation?

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He's acknowledging that America and the West are up to their eyeballs in debt. Also predicting the collapse of the dollar.

Also acknowledging the rise of China, India, Brazil and Russia.



This is key, but I'm not sure what it means. Is he talking about a shift in power from bankrupt governments to globalist institutions? A consolidation of power for the bankers?



Very obscure. How?

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I agree with the OP that parts of the discussion are a bit off topic. A few good points have been made though. This is not the place to discuss your feelings towards the NWO, or whether it's benign or not. There are other threads for that very relevant subject. We are trying to peek into this guys mind, to see what their plans for 2009 are.

The general tone is "humble", but how genuine is this? Is it a genuine acknowledgement of rising non US powers, or just a benign mask? I don't know.







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An interesting discussion.

However, do you have any solutions?

Picking through various ideas, it seems that you guys don't want a One World Government to come into being, that you think that correct balance comes about through Nations with a central meeting place (the UN) being at a lower position than the National governments. I would agree with this idea.

However, again I ask, what solutions are on the table?