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Will there ever be a peace in the Middle East?




Topic started on 8-1-2009 @ 06:32 PM by redled


The UN are debating a motion that requires Israeli stability and Palestinians to get their own rights recognised.

Can both sides recognise each other's rights at the same time?



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 06:54 PM by the_black_project


No. As long as religion exists there will be no peace in the middle east.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:00 PM by crmanager


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no no no no no.

This is NOT a religious war. Any more then the american civil war.

Under the beloved William Jefferson Clinton the Palestinians got 98% of all their demands and refused. Why? Iran did not want peace so they had Arafat push for it all and they got the Intifada.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:11 PM by ravenshadow13


Maybe when the oil is gone. Then I suppose the world will be a tad more level of a playing field.

I think religion does play a part, though.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:14 PM by the_black_project


but when you look at it, it is. Is the same sh*t different day. For the last thousand years! My point is emphasized on many other ATS members threads.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:17 PM by Osiris1953


In short, no, probably not. I'm not going to point fingers at any of the groups that live in the region today, however there has been almost perpetual war in one form or another in that region for hundreds of years. Why would it stop now?



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:38 PM by BluegrassRevolutionary


Yes, there could be peace. It will occur when the Jewish people are once again willing to live alongside the Palestinians. This means no walls, no fences, and equal representation within the Israeli government. Until that day occurs, the Palestinians are prepared to fight until the end of time.

If this day never occurs, no matter what "peace deals" are struck, some Palestinians will forever be prepared to give their lives for the cause.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:47 PM by mrsdudara


No there will be no peace in the middle east. When two dogs want to fight, they do so until the other dies. There is no difference in their situation. Sad, but true.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:03 PM by Uncovered


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Unfortunately, Religion takes up a big portion of this war. As long as Israel believe themselves as the "chosen people", and that land "The Promise land", There will be no peace.
Same goes for the Palestinians. As long as they view Israel as the "evil ones", there will be no peace.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:09 PM by crmanager


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You are typical in your response.

The Palestinians are fine with a 2 state solution. Israel gave them the Gaza and they were ANGRY that Israel pulled out so quickly. Israelis were angry at the quick pull out.

Now HAMMAS not the Palestinians, HAMMAS is firing weapons and will be able to hit the Israeli reactor by year end.

Give back the West Bank and now they can hit EVERY sqare inch of Israel with IRANIAN supplied rockets.

Read up.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:09 PM by reticledc


When two people cannot ever agree on something, the only solution is to take that something away from both. The fundamental flaw in "whatever" logic they are using, is this; selfishness. The only way to have peace is to give of ones self. Until that happens, the only way is to remove their temptation, for the betterment of all involved. As a parent would take away a toy from two squabbling children.

Easier said than done. The humanity involved in such a move would be catastrophic, no doubt. But is it any worse than what they are doing to themselves now, slowly, over the course of decades.
at least if it's done for them, the will be nothing left to fight about.
That is, until, any survivors look upon their saving graces as the new enemy of which to declare, jihad.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:10 PM by Walkswithfish


Yes there will be peace in the Middle East, and it will come exactly one day after either Israel, or all Arab nations have been completely annihilated.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:13 PM by Disclosure Agent


Originally posted by the_black_project
No. As long as religion exists there will be no peace in the middle east.


yup thats pretty much the caper...... yes yes we know there are obvious other reasons why this war will continue (oil, USA etc ) but the main predominate reason will always be religion based.....

expect this and many other wars to continue well passed our lifetimes



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