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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 04:33 PM by Keyhole
reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe


Satellites and communications seemed to be where Michio Kaku was putting the most emphases when he was talking on the video on the first page of this thread.

I thought they shielded satellites so that these flares wouldn't affect them?

Here is a VERY good article explaining about how the Earths magneticc field works to protect us, or not!

This is well worth reading!

Magnetic-Shield Cracks Found; Big Solar Storms Expected - National Geographic


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 06:28 PM by TwiTcHomatic
reply to post by ModernAcademia



Thanks for the links.. alot of material to peruse.

It does make one want to dig a bit deeper and try to connect dots.


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 08:27 PM by nikiano
Originally posted by xbranscombex
I think THIS is what the Fema Camps are for.


I recently posted a similar thread, with a similar theory/hypothesis. Except I posted it in the wrong forum, so nobody saw it. (I posted it in the alien/UFO forum by mistake.)

Here is my thread in case you are interested in reading it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Then I reposted it in the 2012 forum:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My theory stated that I think that that the governments of the world (and NASA) have known for a long, long time about the celestial events that are lining up for 2012 (as prophecied by the Mayan calendar, i.e. the crossing of the galactic center).

The recent research recently released by NASA shows that the 11 year solar cycle will peak at the time that there will be a "problematic" decrease in the strength of earth's EM field, which shields us against solar radiation.

When I saw those articles mentioned on a blog one day, I came up with the hypothesis that maybe the "new world order" is not a plan to take over the world and wipe out 80% of the population (as many people say it is.) Rather, I think the "new world order" refers to a survival plan that will be put into place for the reamining 10-20% of the world AFTER the events of 2012, whatever the cataclysm ends up being.

This explains the seed vault in Norway, the massive underground bases being built on earth over the last decade or so, etc... It explains a lot.

Plus, think about this. We have known for a long, long time that the Mayans had an amazingly accurate astronomical calendar. Many times more accurate than our own, it was able to predict celestial events thousands of years in advance, plus or minus just a few seconds!! For NASA, and all world governments, to ignore that calandar would have been insane.

So, I think they must have been researching what was going to happen in 2012 for a long time. I think the Mayans were right. They knew that something huge was going to happen when we crossed the galactic center. They could see patterns for thousands of years, because their calendar was not based on the earth's revolution around the sun. Rather, their calendar was based on the earth's revolution around the galaxy, which takes thousands upon thousands of years to complete, and almost 5,000 years for the earth to move from one zodiac age to another...so 5,000 x 12 zodiac signs = approximately 60,000 years.

The Mayans knew something was going to happen in 2012. With a calendar that long, with an accuracy rate of plus or minus a few seconds....I'm believing the Mayan astronomers, not the skeptics of ATS.







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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:09 PM by DarkSecret
Originally posted by nikiano
My theory stated that I think that that the governments of the world (and NASA) have known for a long, long time about the celestial events that are lining up for 2012 (as prophecied by the Mayan calendar, i.e. the crossing of the galactic center).

When I saw those articles mentioned on a blog one day, I came up with the hypothesis that maybe the "new world order" is not a plan to take over the world and wipe out 80% of the population (as many people say it is.) Rather, I think the "new world order" refers to a survival plan that will be put into place for the reamining 10-20% of the world AFTER the events of 2012, whatever the cataclysm ends up being.

This explains the seed vault in Norway, the massive underground bases being built on earth over the last decade or so, etc... It explains a lot.


your theory sounds plausible and i'd rather believe that the govt is trying to ensure there are still SOME subjects to govern after it all happens so it builds all these facilities to take care of survivors i mean it's impossible to shelter 300+mil ppl.

but then i disagree with this whole "alignment" idea. this is just an "optical illusion" and that morning of Dec 21 2012, when the sun comes up the center of the galaxy will "appear" to be aligned with the sun, behind the sun. nothing like a real alignment or crossing some sort of galaxy plane or other things I've read on this forum.

so how can an optical illusion really hurt us? it's pretty much like an eclipse, where the sun "eclipses" the center of the galaxy for a few hours. eclipses have never killed anyone directly, why would this optical illusion do so?


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:51 AM by nikiano
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Well, actually, the Mayans were expert astronomers, and there will be an alignment/ crossover of the galactic plane. I posted some links on my thread where you can see diagrams of it.

The Mayans were able to accurately predict celestial events (eclipses, etc...) thousands of years in advance that make our calendar look primitive in comparison. NASA is only now, in recent years, finding things that Mayans knew thousands of years ago. How the Mayan astronomers figured all of this out is an amazing mystery. Did they figure it out themselves, or did they have help from a visiting alien? I have no idea, but their calendar is quite impressive.

Last night, Brent Miller was on Coast to Coast radio discussing this very subject (what he thinks will happen when the earth crosses the galactic plane....a pole shift and massive destruction on earth), if you want to click on it and listen to it. You need a subscription to coast to coast to listen to it, unless someone posts it on youtube so you can listen to it for free. (I don't know how to do that.)

www.coasttocoastam.com...


Last night on that very same show, Miller also talked about what could happen to our electrical grid here on earth (in his opinion) if the sun storms that are being discussed get past our EM field and reach earth.

I am now just listening to the entire show now right now (I fell asleep last night and didn't catch the whole thing), but basically, he think the pole shift will cause massive earthquakes that will shut down the entire power grid. He said that countries like US would be affected the most (because we're used to living off a power grid) and the result will be terrible chaos, including the shipment of food being completely halted within 3 days.

Miller said that he things the resulting food shortage will be used as a justification to put micro-chips into people. I had not thought about it that way exactly... I think the chips would actually be part of a greater survival plan.... but it seems that he and I are thinking along the same lines....

And, he thinks that when our solar system reach the galactic plane, there will be massive debris (such as large and small asteroids) in the galactic plane that could potentially hit our earth.

In regards to this very thread that we are discussing right now, he thinks the sun storms in 2012 could create massive dust storm that could put us into a new ice age.

Will everything that he is predicting happen? God, let's hope not! But it's interesting how he ties it all together. It's not just one thing that's going to happen.....but rather the sun storms are just one part of the "perfect storm" that's supposed to happen in 2012.

Now (as I'm listening to the radio show) they're talking about the doomsday vault in Norway, too. Too funny....we're all starting to connect the dots together about the same time.

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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 09:07 AM by mortalengine
reply to post by nikiano


Actually, there are people who know exactly what the Mayans knew - how do you think we got our current calendar ? When the old Roman calendar started becoming more than seconds and minutes out of sync and began missing entire days they thought it wise to re-calculate a new calendar. the new Gregorian calendar was based off the Mayan calendar by a German man... forget his name, either way he had access to the Mayan data kept safe within the Vatican vaults - the reason they left out all the additional info was - I would imagine - clearly on purpose.

You see, most people's largest unit of time is a year, we then only have fancy names for groupings of years like decades, centuries, millenia etc.
It's easy to put people into a hypnotic dream state like this - we work all year, then christmas and we have holiday - repeat. It's clear they didnt want people to know that there were different ages or aeons - as most scriptures speak about abundantly - those in the know dont what their worker ants to know when things are most favourable and when not.

If you like this sort of stuff I recommend you look into David Flynn's Doomsday Clock

video.google.com...

2012 is when it all aligns and we stare straight into the eye of Ouroboros. Even if nothing happens it's still an amazing time to be alive through - we're truly blessed whatever the outcome.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 09:45 AM by nikiano
Originally posted by Revealation


My thoughts...It's gonna be a planned event and carried out by humans and they will blame solar flares. Many will believe it because they "heard it from the MEDIA" for so long. Shadow government brainwashing.

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That is definitely possible! It seems that they are using the natural cycles of the earth warming and cooling to blame "global warming" on humans. So, they could very well be planning something massive to happen on 2012, to coincide with the solar flares, and then use the solar flares and events of 2012 as a cover-up!

It could be both! It could be a survival plan.... and it could also be a diversion/cover up.

But I think if the cataclysm is as bad as predicted in 2012, it won't really matter, because our government as it stands now would totally collapse in a cataclysmic event.

Which is why I'm making my own survival plans. I've always been very independent, so if there is a global cataclysm, and if I do survive, and if I don't like the survival plans the government has made, then I'll just do my own thing.....if possible.

This discussion makes me wonder about the myths and legends of the destruction of Atlantis....if Atlantis did exist, what happened to their survivors? Where did they go? Did the survivors become part of the next great civilization, the ancient Phoenicians and Greeks, etc.? (The Phoenix rising up from the ashes...) and the stragglers became the "primitive tribes" of North and South America who somehow possessed extraordinary knowledge of the stars and our universe? Who knows.




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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 10:49 AM by Revealation
reply to post by nikiano


I would agree that if I survive, then roll alone and take care of your own.I myself am prepared and self sufficient as possible. Eventually you may meet up with others who share your views and ideals and then continue from there. If not live out the rest of existence as peacful and pure as possible.I also like your perspective on Atlantis. Never looked at it that way but very interesting.

I'm just curious. Where did it relate these solar flares to 2012? I didn't see it. I was reading the post rather quick.

Edit to add.... Forget it, I found it (2012) further in the article






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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 07:44 PM by DarkSecret
Originally posted by nikiano
Well, actually, the Mayans were expert astronomers, and there will be an alignment/ crossover of the galactic plane. I posted some links on my thread where you can see diagrams of it.

The Mayans were able to accurately predict celestial events (eclipses, etc...) thousands of years in advance that make our calendar look primitive in comparison. NASA is only now, in recent years, finding things that Mayans knew thousands of years ago. How the Mayan astronomers figured all of this out is an amazing mystery. Did they figure it out themselves, or did they have help from a visiting alien? I have no idea, but their calendar is quite impressive.

Last night, Brent Miller was on Coast to Coast radio discussing this very subject (what he thinks will happen when the earth crosses the galactic plane....a pole shift and massive destruction on earth), if you want to click on it and listen to it. You need a subscription to coast to coast to listen to it, unless someone posts it on youtube so you can listen to it for free. (I don't know how to do that.)


so because some guy on the radio is saying it will happen it has to be true, right? there are 2 different things here. first Mayans were good astronomers either from some alien intervention or through obsessive observations and incorporating this science into their religion. second is that because some culture was very good at measuring time you're also willing to say it means the end of the world as we know it will happen on the date their calendar ends.

i bet this guy on the radio has some sort of monetary gain out of promoting this event. all these so-called enlightened people will have almost 4 more years to make money off this one and then take a break and look forward to some other date to con people with. have you ever read/heard of the story of Mormon's religion? how about scientoloty and Xenu? it's fun.
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