Powerful Solar Storm Could Shut Down U.S. for Months

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Satellites and communications seemed to be where Michio Kaku was putting the most emphases when he was talking on the video on the first page of this thread.

I thought they shielded satellites so that these flares wouldn't affect them?

Here is a VERY good article explaining about how the Earths magneticc field works to protect us, or not!

This is well worth reading!

Magnetic-Shield Cracks Found; Big Solar Storms Expected - National Geographic

I remember reading that modelers were predicting this solar cycle would start late but be very strong... so far the first part has been true.

In fact, Sunspot activity has been almost nonexistent, making people wonder if we were headed straight to a Maunder Minimum condition with a deep freeze, never mind global warming!

Also "Head Games" Ed Dames "Kill Shot" prediction comes to mind. He was the remote viewer who entertained Coast to Coast audiences a few years back, until he seemed to lose his groove.

Anyway, he was predicting a huge solar mass ejection that would fry our atmosphere, kill all our food, and make it unsafe to go outdoors for the duration. He was predicting it for some time back. Maybe the Powers that Be, that Really Truly Be, have given us a reprieve so we can get our #%#it together!

Of course there is always the 4th plague of Revelation with its "Sun given power to scorch men" the Bible solution is to get the Seal of God, not the Mark of the Beast...

So Enjoy yourself these are the good ole days!

Correction, These are still the good ole days...

Soon life for everyone will be an NDE...

Maybe someday I'll join ATS, but I'm on enough "watch lists" already

Is there someone behind this?


www.worldnetdaily.com...

www.foxnews.com...

www.space.com...

science.nasa.gov...

news.nationalgeographic.com...

www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2006/03/07/MNGAFHJJL91.DTL

news.nationalgeographic.com...

www.associatedcontent.com...

www.sciencedaily.com...

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Thanks for the links.. alot of material to peruse.

It does make one want to dig a bit deeper and try to connect dots.

All I can say to everything posted above is, "George Orwell" was right!!!

Animal Farm and 1984 should be required reading once a year, for every child, from 7th - 12th grade. Also, there is another scary story along these lines called, "The Lottery." Make that required reading as well, just to show what we have become, and are still becoming. We have become the very thing/entity we used to fight against(Socialists & Communists). When I say "we," I'm referring to our government(U.S. Government), and its policies, and the people who give their allegiance to them.

The storm is gathering, the pieces are in place, and the full picture of the puzzle is about to be made manifest. I just hope that we are prepared for what we are about to see!

~ Lonelypoet

Let's not get paranoid. Whenever we get a CME we also have about 15 minutes warning from SOHO. The particles/radiation coming from the sun travel at about 1/3 light speed. it will most likely not impact Earth much but if it does it will trigger the safety circuits and shut down the power grid since that's the largest human made "conductor" which can capture EM fields. your cell phone or laptop will be OK as long as they are not connected to the grid. there wont be any significant increase of radiation at ground level but if you're flying you may get a higher dose than usually (yes you are exposed to high doses of radiation whenever you fly).

as for Faraday's Cage - most companies and retail stores in the US and Europe are steel buildings so you will be safe inside them. nobody will die but there may be economic losses due to the power failure.

this shows once again how small we are on a universal scale and there are just a lot of things we and our technology can't control (CMEs, GRBs, earthquakes/volcanoes, etc, etc). should be a good moment for reflection on what we're really doing during our short stay here on earth.

It would appear that the actual solar events would be in end of 2010 beginning of 2011. Space weather .com

I think THIS is what the Fema Camps are for.

Originally posted by xbranscombex
I think THIS is what the Fema Camps are for.

I recently posted a similar thread, with a similar theory/hypothesis. Except I posted it in the wrong forum, so nobody saw it. (I posted it in the alien/UFO forum by mistake.)

Here is my thread in case you are interested in reading it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Then I reposted it in the 2012 forum:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My theory stated that I think that that the governments of the world (and NASA) have known for a long, long time about the celestial events that are lining up for 2012 (as prophecied by the Mayan calendar, i.e. the crossing of the galactic center).

The recent research recently released by NASA shows that the 11 year solar cycle will peak at the time that there will be a "problematic" decrease in the strength of earth's EM field, which shields us against solar radiation.

When I saw those articles mentioned on a blog one day, I came up with the hypothesis that maybe the "new world order" is not a plan to take over the world and wipe out 80% of the population (as many people say it is.) Rather, I think the "new world order" refers to a survival plan that will be put into place for the reamining 10-20% of the world AFTER the events of 2012, whatever the cataclysm ends up being.

This explains the seed vault in Norway, the massive underground bases being built on earth over the last decade or so, etc... It explains a lot.

Plus, think about this. We have known for a long, long time that the Mayans had an amazingly accurate astronomical calendar. Many times more accurate than our own, it was able to predict celestial events thousands of years in advance, plus or minus just a few seconds!! For NASA, and all world governments, to ignore that calandar would have been insane.

So, I think they must have been researching what was going to happen in 2012 for a long time. I think the Mayans were right. They knew that something huge was going to happen when we crossed the galactic center. They could see patterns for thousands of years, because their calendar was not based on the earth's revolution around the sun. Rather, their calendar was based on the earth's revolution around the galaxy, which takes thousands upon thousands of years to complete, and almost 5,000 years for the earth to move from one zodiac age to another...so 5,000 x 12 zodiac signs = approximately 60,000 years.

The Mayans knew something was going to happen in 2012. With a calendar that long, with an accuracy rate of plus or minus a few seconds....I'm believing the Mayan astronomers, not the skeptics of ATS.







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Originally posted by nikiano
My theory stated that I think that that the governments of the world (and NASA) have known for a long, long time about the celestial events that are lining up for 2012 (as prophecied by the Mayan calendar, i.e. the crossing of the galactic center).

When I saw those articles mentioned on a blog one day, I came up with the hypothesis that maybe the "new world order" is not a plan to take over the world and wipe out 80% of the population (as many people say it is.) Rather, I think the "new world order" refers to a survival plan that will be put into place for the reamining 10-20% of the world AFTER the events of 2012, whatever the cataclysm ends up being.

This explains the seed vault in Norway, the massive underground bases being built on earth over the last decade or so, etc... It explains a lot.

your theory sounds plausible and i'd rather believe that the govt is trying to ensure there are still SOME subjects to govern after it all happens so it builds all these facilities to take care of survivors i mean it's impossible to shelter 300+mil ppl.

but then i disagree with this whole "alignment" idea. this is just an "optical illusion" and that morning of Dec 21 2012, when the sun comes up the center of the galaxy will "appear" to be aligned with the sun, behind the sun. nothing like a real alignment or crossing some sort of galaxy plane or other things I've read on this forum.

so how can an optical illusion really hurt us? it's pretty much like an eclipse, where the sun "eclipses" the center of the galaxy for a few hours. eclipses have never killed anyone directly, why would this optical illusion do so?

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Well, actually, the Mayans were expert astronomers, and there will be an alignment/ crossover of the galactic plane. I posted some links on my thread where you can see diagrams of it.

The Mayans were able to accurately predict celestial events (eclipses, etc...) thousands of years in advance that make our calendar look primitive in comparison. NASA is only now, in recent years, finding things that Mayans knew thousands of years ago. How the Mayan astronomers figured all of this out is an amazing mystery. Did they figure it out themselves, or did they have help from a visiting alien? I have no idea, but their calendar is quite impressive.

Last night, Brent Miller was on Coast to Coast radio discussing this very subject (what he thinks will happen when the earth crosses the galactic plane....a pole shift and massive destruction on earth), if you want to click on it and listen to it. You need a subscription to coast to coast to listen to it, unless someone posts it on youtube so you can listen to it for free. (I don't know how to do that.)

www.coasttocoastam.com...


Last night on that very same show, Miller also talked about what could happen to our electrical grid here on earth (in his opinion) if the sun storms that are being discussed get past our EM field and reach earth.

I am now just listening to the entire show now right now (I fell asleep last night and didn't catch the whole thing), but basically, he think the pole shift will cause massive earthquakes that will shut down the entire power grid. He said that countries like US would be affected the most (because we're used to living off a power grid) and the result will be terrible chaos, including the shipment of food being completely halted within 3 days.

Miller said that he things the resulting food shortage will be used as a justification to put micro-chips into people. I had not thought about it that way exactly... I think the chips would actually be part of a greater survival plan.... but it seems that he and I are thinking along the same lines....

And, he thinks that when our solar system reach the galactic plane, there will be massive debris (such as large and small asteroids) in the galactic plane that could potentially hit our earth.

In regards to this very thread that we are discussing right now, he thinks the sun storms in 2012 could create massive dust storm that could put us into a new ice age.

Will everything that he is predicting happen? God, let's hope not! But it's interesting how he ties it all together. It's not just one thing that's going to happen.....but rather the sun storms are just one part of the "perfect storm" that's supposed to happen in 2012.

Now (as I'm listening to the radio show) they're talking about the doomsday vault in Norway, too. Too funny....we're all starting to connect the dots together about the same time.

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Sorry if this has already been said but, lead will guard against most if not all EMP/electrical disturbances. You can lead shield most things - it's what they do to fighter jets, you dont really need to stock up on legacy devices if you shield your important stuff this way.

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Actually, there are people who know exactly what the Mayans knew - how do you think we got our current calendar ? When the old Roman calendar started becoming more than seconds and minutes out of sync and began missing entire days they thought it wise to re-calculate a new calendar. the new Gregorian calendar was based off the Mayan calendar by a German man... forget his name, either way he had access to the Mayan data kept safe within the Vatican vaults - the reason they left out all the additional info was - I would imagine - clearly on purpose.

You see, most people's largest unit of time is a year, we then only have fancy names for groupings of years like decades, centuries, millenia etc.
It's easy to put people into a hypnotic dream state like this - we work all year, then christmas and we have holiday - repeat. It's clear they didnt want people to know that there were different ages or aeons - as most scriptures speak about abundantly - those in the know dont what their worker ants to know when things are most favourable and when not.

If you like this sort of stuff I recommend you look into David Flynn's Doomsday Clock

video.google.com...

2012 is when it all aligns and we stare straight into the eye of Ouroboros. Even if nothing happens it's still an amazing time to be alive through - we're truly blessed whatever the outcome.

I wanted to read all before I posted and I'm glad I did.I think ModernAcedemia and Nikiano are the only ones who are awake and reading between the lines correctly. Though I do believe we have solar flares and celestial events which occur, I personally feel it leads to a bigger plot.

Maybe (as Nikiano implied) the world leaders knew about this and the info is being witheld.Though my personal opinion differs slightly. I do believe that the plan is for the thinning out of hte heard but don't think it's gonna be a natural event.

I think the government realizes that the people have to much knowledge and power via technology and the only way for them to keep their power is by taking our tech/knowledge away. In doing so it will throw the world into turmoil resulting in chaos and civil unrest. Many people will die and a majority of the rest (who can't fend for themselves) will be seeking someone to hold their hands and this will give the government TOTAL world control.

My thoughts...It's gonna be a planned event and carried out by humans and they will blame solar flares. Many will believe it because they "heard it from the MEDIA" for so long. Shadow government brainwashing.

Stars ModernAcedemia & Nikiano for their insight.

Edit to add....Darksecret,right on the money. Star for you, or maybe solar flares for everyone

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Originally posted by Revealation


My thoughts...It's gonna be a planned event and carried out by humans and they will blame solar flares. Many will believe it because they "heard it from the MEDIA" for so long. Shadow government brainwashing.

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That is definitely possible! It seems that they are using the natural cycles of the earth warming and cooling to blame "global warming" on humans. So, they could very well be planning something massive to happen on 2012, to coincide with the solar flares, and then use the solar flares and events of 2012 as a cover-up!

It could be both! It could be a survival plan.... and it could also be a diversion/cover up.

But I think if the cataclysm is as bad as predicted in 2012, it won't really matter, because our government as it stands now would totally collapse in a cataclysmic event.

Which is why I'm making my own survival plans. I've always been very independent, so if there is a global cataclysm, and if I do survive, and if I don't like the survival plans the government has made, then I'll just do my own thing.....if possible.

This discussion makes me wonder about the myths and legends of the destruction of Atlantis....if Atlantis did exist, what happened to their survivors? Where did they go? Did the survivors become part of the next great civilization, the ancient Phoenicians and Greeks, etc.? (The Phoenix rising up from the ashes...) and the stragglers became the "primitive tribes" of North and South America who somehow possessed extraordinary knowledge of the stars and our universe? Who knows.




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Ok, I'm not sure why I'm going to share this with you, but I am:

When I was in third grade, I was shown my first vision: it was of me and other "survivors" walking through a forest. I don't know how I knew that we were survivors....I just knew. And I knew that we had survived a major destructive event.

I never knew what the visions meant until I first read about 2012...and until 9/11 happened. And then I just had a feeling that the visions I saw were probably pretty close at hand.

Since I got my first vision in 3rd grade, I've had many visions and messages, most of which have come true. So far, the "survivors in the forest" vision is the only major vision I've had that has not come true. I have no idea where this forest is (I don't live anywhere near a forest now!), but I assume someday I'll end up there, with others.

Anybody else ever have visions like that? If so, maybe we should start another thread! In fact, I'm going to right now. I'd like to know if anyone else has had visions like I have. Maybe we can put the visions together and get a complete picture.


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Here is the new thread I started in case anyone else has had visions they would like to share:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I would agree that if I survive, then roll alone and take care of your own.I myself am prepared and self sufficient as possible. Eventually you may meet up with others who share your views and ideals and then continue from there. If not live out the rest of existence as peacful and pure as possible.I also like your perspective on Atlantis. Never looked at it that way but very interesting.

I'm just curious. Where did it relate these solar flares to 2012? I didn't see it. I was reading the post rather quick.

Edit to add.... Forget it, I found it (2012) further in the article






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Originally posted by nikiano
Well, actually, the Mayans were expert astronomers, and there will be an alignment/ crossover of the galactic plane. I posted some links on my thread where you can see diagrams of it.

The Mayans were able to accurately predict celestial events (eclipses, etc...) thousands of years in advance that make our calendar look primitive in comparison. NASA is only now, in recent years, finding things that Mayans knew thousands of years ago. How the Mayan astronomers figured all of this out is an amazing mystery. Did they figure it out themselves, or did they have help from a visiting alien? I have no idea, but their calendar is quite impressive.

Last night, Brent Miller was on Coast to Coast radio discussing this very subject (what he thinks will happen when the earth crosses the galactic plane....a pole shift and massive destruction on earth), if you want to click on it and listen to it. You need a subscription to coast to coast to listen to it, unless someone posts it on youtube so you can listen to it for free. (I don't know how to do that.)

so because some guy on the radio is saying it will happen it has to be true, right? there are 2 different things here. first Mayans were good astronomers either from some alien intervention or through obsessive observations and incorporating this science into their religion. second is that because some culture was very good at measuring time you're also willing to say it means the end of the world as we know it will happen on the date their calendar ends.

i bet this guy on the radio has some sort of monetary gain out of promoting this event. all these so-called enlightened people will have almost 4 more years to make money off this one and then take a break and look forward to some other date to con people with. have you ever read/heard of the story of Mormon's religion? how about scientoloty and Xenu? it's fun.

so because some guy on the radio is saying it will happen it has to be true, right? .

Um, if you read my post, you'll see that I clearly said that he was on the show last night talking about WHAT HE THINKS will happen. I made sure to word that it was HIS opinion.

I felt last night's show on C2C was relevant to this discussion thread because we were talking about solar storms, and what could happen because of those solar storms, and one of his predictions is that the solar storms could create dust storms so bad that they could cloud the skies for years and put us into another ice age. You can think whatever you want to think about him and his motives, I really don't care. But his predictions were relevant to the discussion at hand, which is why I mentioned it. And it also all ties in quite nicely with the 2012 theories.

So please don't jump down my throat. I really have no idea what will happen on 2012. This is all speculation, which is why we are on a discussion thread on a conspiracy theory web site. Or maybe you didn't realize that.



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There are more thing's happening than just our magnetosphere problems for our planet.
Sometime back in October of 2008, there was an individual speaking on behalf of the "web-bot" program, the program itself has been 30 out of 30 times correct in it's predictions, which gives it merit in my book.
The magnetosphere did tear, bu the reason was a much darker reality for scientists and astrophysist a like. They don't know how to diagnos, measure or deal with the unfolding events that are currently happening, teh mentioned narrator had tried to get the Discovery channel, History channel and the sci-Fi channel to cover it, but they all replied the same way "What! Are you trying to start a Global Panic?"

Hope this works, never tried to "Embed" a video before:

New Web Bots Predictions about 2012
www.disclose.tv...
Hoped that worked , but will find out right now, "Won't I?"

[EDIT] had to try another approach, don't know how to share with you all, but here goes again!!

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