Definitive Back Engineered Alien Technology Research thread

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posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 04:58 PM

My partner in crime Bob Down Under and I have been pulling information from previously posted ATS threads and from across the web, to provide what we believe to be proof of Back Engineering Alien technology and that it is going on right under our noses.

If you are looking for a quick read May I suggest the Encyclopedia Brittanica or War and Peace, because this will be a long thread on subjects ranging from recovered craft to Government cover ups to releasing High Technology into the mainstream consumer markets and the history of how this may have happened and is still taking place to this day.

We will attempt to follow the paper trail and show how with the advancement of modern technology that we are now coming to the point of really understanding this manna from heaven.

Lets begin with a brief history.

We have all heard the stories of the Roswell UFO Incident and we all know that through out history we have read stories of weird things glowing or floating in the sky and in ancient times they were considered by some to be gods. examples like Ezekiel's wheel or Mesoamerican stories of quetzalcoatl Even ancient Mesopotamia had stories of some flying gods like Anu ! Most of the modern world will say they are nothing more than the product of an active imagination. So be it, but I ask how else would primitive man describe something that they are completely unaware of? They would put things into their own words with descriptions that they are familiar with.

So we have a long history of such things being seen lets assume they were Aliens and Lets assume Roswell really happened. The modern UFO phenomenon really started with Kenneth Arnold when near Mount Rainier, Washington on June 24, 1947 and saw objects' shaped as resembling a flat saucer or disc skipping by at great speeds! ever since then we have had many come forward with pictures and descriptions and many have also claimed to have been abducted, Which brings now to Philip Corso and his book The Day after Roswell, in it he discloses how the US military recovered Alien bodies and the craft they came to Earth in. I say craft and not saucer because many of the early claims of UFOs are described as crescent shaped.

We are aware that many find his claims outlandish while others such as myself have found this to be plausible. But how exactly would you back engineer something that is way ahead of us as far as technology goes? when at the time we had a limited understanding of such things as physics, Metallurgy, Nanotechnology, Integrated circuitry, Fiber optics and Laser etc.

Mankind has advanced more in the past 50 years than he has in all of the previous centuries combined is this just by accident?

I feel and this is just my opinion that it has taken us until fairly recently to now be able to really back engineer this technology, we have unlocked some of the mystery which has already helped by ushering in the computer age which was brought about by an attempt to reverse engineer what we had found. Such as the Microchip, Fiber optics,

You’re not going to find a straight line towards a specific examples of Back Engineered Alien Technology, in other words your not going to pop off the back of your computer and look for a chip that says made in Alpha Centuri.

We had our first wave of technology from this source explode onto the world consumer markets in the late 60s and early 70s and later during the 80s. A strange thing occurred during the Reagan Presidency, the SDI program was pushed forward in the hopes that the more advanced recovered technology that we had not been able to decipher up till now could be broken.

How could this be accomplished without letting anybody know what it is your trying to do? Compartmentalize! Break up the projects through out the US and World and do not let the other parties involved know what the others are doing and how it relates to each other. Divide and conquer.

Finally the meat and potatoes

Viewing Alien micro circuitry gave those in the electronics field the idea of miniaturizing components.

Nanotechnology, which is sometimes shortened to "Nanotech", refers to a field whose theme is the control of matter on an atomic and molecular scale. Generally nanotechnology deals with structures of the size 100 nanometers or smaller, and involves developing materials or devices within that size.

Ok so now we have the best in the field working on miniaturizing components and have gotten as far as going all the way down to the atom and then once there you start building devices from the atom up. This would enable them to create even faster Super computers.
Did you noticed who was funding the research?

NanoEngineering Supermaterials

Lets now move on to other fields that would require study to further decipher recovered technology. How about fiber optics and how could it apply?

Fiber Optics

An optical fiber (or fibre) is a glass or plastic fiber that carries light along its length. Fiber optics is the overlap of applied science and engineering concerned with the design and application of optical fibers. Optical fibers are widely used in fiber-optic communications, which permits transmission over longer distances and at higher data rates (a.k.a "bandwidth") than other forms of communications. Fibers are used instead of metal wires because signals travel along them with less loss, and they are also immune to electromagnetic interference. Fibers are also used for illumination, and are wrapped in bundles so they can be used to carry images, thus allowing viewing in tight spaces. Specially designed fibers are used for a variety of other applications, including sensors and fiber lasers.

I know many of you by this time are ready to pull your hair out and scream but we have a real human history of these so called Back engineered Alien technologies you speak of.

Lets continue and I'll show a possible solution to those questions

History of Fiber Optics Notice the gap? 1930 then again in 1954?

In 1930, German medical student, Heinrich Lamm was the first person to assemble a bundle of optical fibers to carry an image. Lamm's goal was to look inside inaccessible parts of the body. During his experiments, he reported transmitting the image of a light bulb. The image was of poor quality, however. His effort to file a patent was denied because of Hansell's British patent.

1954 Dutch scientist Abraham Van Heel and British scientist Harold. H. Hopkins separately wrote papers on imaging bundles. Hopkins reported on imaging bundles of unclad fibers while Van Heel reported on simple bundles of clad fibers. He covered a bare fiber with a transparent cladding of a lower refractive index. This protected the fiber reflection surface from outside distortion and greatly reduced interference between fibers. At the time, the greatest obstacle to a viable use of fiber optics was in achieving the lowest signal (light) loss.

History of the Laser Here you have a huge gap 1917 then all of sudden in 1954 advancement.

The name LASER is an acronym for Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation. In 1917, Albert Einstein first theorized about the process which makes lasers possible called "Stimulated Emission." Before the Laser there was the Maser

In 1954, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow invented the maser (microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation), using ammonia gas and microwave radiation - the maser was invented before the (optical) laser. The technology is very close but does not use a visible light. On March 24, 1959, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow were granted a patent for the maser. The maser was used to amplify radio signals and as an ultrasensitive detector for space research.

In 1958, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow theorized and published papers about a visible laser, an invention that would use infrared and/or visible spectrum light, however, they did not proceed with any research at the time. Ruby Laser In 1960, Theodore Maiman invented the ruby laser considered to be the first successful optical or light laser.

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 04:59 PM
History of Carbon Fiber Not much of a prehistory there just came out of nowhere in 1958.

History of Carbon Fiber In 1958, Dr. Roger Bacon created the first high-performance carbon fibers at the Union Carbide Parma Technical Center, located outside of Cleveland, Ohio.[4]The first fibers were manufactured by heating strands of rayon until they carbonized. This process proved to be inefficient, as the resulting fibers contained only about 20% carbon and had low strength and stiffness properties. In the early 1960s, a process was developed using polyacrylonitrile (PAN) as a raw material. This had produced a carbon fiber that contained about 55% carbon and had much better properties. The polyacrylonitrile (PAN) conversion process quickly became the primary method for producing carbon fibers.[2]

History of the Integrated Circuit Father of the Microchip 1958

Jack Kilby, an engineer with a background in ceramic-based silk screen circuit boards and transistor-based hearing aids, started working for Texas Instruments in 1958. A year earlier, research engineer Robert Noyce had co-founded the Fairchild Semiconductor Corporation.

From 1958 to 1959, both electrical engineers were working on an answer to the same dilemma: how to make more of less. In designing a complex electronic machine like a computer it was always necessary to increase the number of components involved in order to make technical advances. The monolithic (formed from a single crystal) integrated circuit placed the previously separated transistors, resistors, capacitors and all the connecting wiring onto a single crystal (or 'chip') made of semiconductor material. Kilby used germanium and Noyce used silicon for the semiconductor material.

Night Vision Another good example from the 1950s

Where Did Thermal Imaging Devices Originate From?: Thermal imaging devices were first developed for military purposes. According to Bullard Thermal Imaging, "In the late 1950s and 1960s, Texas Instruments, Hughes Aircraft, and Honeywell developed single element detectors that scanned scenes and produced line images. These basic detectors led to the development of modern thermal imaging."

History of the Superconductor Superconductor 1957

Mysteries of Superconductors - BCS Theory In 1957, scientists began to unlock the mysteries of superconductors. Three American physicists at the University of Illinois, John Bardeen, Leon Cooper, and Robert Schrieffer, developed a model that has since stood as a good example of why superconductors behave as they do and expressed the advanced ideas of the science of quantum mechanics. Their model suggested that electrons in a superconductor condense into a quantum ground state and travel together collectively and coherently.

So now we have evidence that Corso may be telling the truth. It took a long time to backwards engineer the technology that was found back then. Corso never claimed they invented the technology we are speaking of, but that he was in charge of releasing it to industry that were already working in those fields, they seemed to be the best chance of developing it. In his book he explains this in detail.

He said he contacting people at these companies and only the need to know were let into the know. His only requirement was that they used it and take the claims of the development, patents and to release it into the consumer markets!

Now lets explore how some of these crafts may have worked
Anti Gravity?

Who is T.T. Brown?

Early and middle years

Brown was born in Zanesville, Ohio; his parents were Lewis K. and Mary Townsend Brown. In 1921, Brown discovered what was later called the Biefeld-Brown effect while experimenting with a Coolidge X-ray tube. This is a vacuum tube with two asymmetrical electrodes. Brown noticed that there was a force exerted by the tube when it was connected to a high-voltage source. This force was not caused by the X-rays, but by this new effect. Later, in 1923, he collaborated with Paul Alfred Biefeld at Denison University, Granville, Ohio. He started a military career afterwards and was involved in a number of science programs. In 1930 he joined the U.S. Navy and conducted fundamental research in electromagnetism, radiation, field physics, spectroscopy, gravity and other topics. He later worked for Glenn L. Martin and, still later, for the National Defense Research Committee (NDRC) and the Office of Scientific Research and Development, headed at that time by Dr. Vannevar Bush. After 1944 he worked as a consultant to the Lockheed-Vega Aircraft Corporation.

Later years

In 1955, Brown went to England, and then France where he worked for La Société Nationale de Construction Aéronautique du Sud Ouest (SNCASO). In 1956, the aviation trade publication Interavia reported that Brown had made substantial progress in anti-gravity or electro-gravitic propulsion research. Top U.S. aerospace companies had also become involved in such research (see United States gravity control propulsion research (1955 - 1974)) which may have become a classified subject by 1957. Others contend Brown's research simply reached a dead end and lost support. Though the effect he discovered has been proven to exist by many others, Brown's work was controversial because others and even he himself believed that this effect could explain the existence and operation of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Brown was an early investigator of UFOs and in 1956 helped found the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP).

Though Townsend resigned not long after NICAP was founded, NICAP was an influential force in civilian UFO research through 1970. The organization's activities drew the attention of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), several high-level officers of which joined the group. Brown's research has since become something of a popular pursuit around the world, with amateur experimenters replicating his early experiments in the form of "lifters" powered by high-voltage.
Notice the gap again 1930 then advancement in 1955 also I highly recommend going back to that link and try to bring up his patents from the US Patent office yes the link is official. Hint good luck

T.T. Brown Electrogravity Vacuum Experiments

AntiGravity Physics Explained


Electrogravitics is a research subject based upon the original work of Nikola Tesla, and hypotheses advanced by Thomas Townsend Brown and Brown's subsequent extensive experimentation and demonstrations of the effect. The term was in widespread use by 1956.[1] The effects of electrogravity have been searched for extensively in countless experiments since the beginning of the 20th century; to date, other than Brown's experiments and the more recent ones reported by R. L. Talley[2], Eugene Podkletnov, and Giovanni Modanese, no conclusive evidence of electrogravitic signatures has been found. Recently, some investigation has begun in electrohydrodynamics (EHD) or sometimes electro-fluid-dynamics, a counterpart to the well-known magneto-hydrodynamics, but these do not seem a priori to be related to Brown's "electrogravitics"

United States gravity control propulsion research (1955 - 1974)

American interest in "gravity control propulsion research" intensified during the early 1950s. Literature from that period used the terms anti-gravity, anti-gravitation, baricentric, counterbary, electrogravitics, G-projects, gravitics, gravity control, and gravity propulsion.[1][2] Their publicized goals were to develop and discover technologies and theories for the manipulation of gravity or gravity-like fields for propulsion.[3] Although general relativity theory appeared to prohibit anti-gravity propulsion, several programs were funded to develop it through gravitation research from 1955 to 1974. The names of many contributors to general relativity and those of the golden age of general relativity have appeared among documents about the institutions that had served as the theoretical research components of those programs.[4][5][6] The existence and 1950s emergence of the gravity control propulsion research had not been a subject of controversy for aerospace writers, critics, and conspiracy theory advocates. But its rationale, effectiveness, and longevity have been the objects of contested views.


A maser is a device that produces coherent electromagnetic waves through amplification due to stimulated emission. Historically the term came from the acronym "Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation", although modern masers emit over a broad portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This has led some to replace "microwave" with "molecular" in the acronym, as suggested by Charles H. Townes.[1] When optical coherent oscillators were first developed, they were called optical masers, but it has become more common to refer to these as lasers. See the section on terminology below for more on this.

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 04:59 PM

A ferrofluid (from the Latin ferrum, meaning iron) is a liquid which becomes strongly polarised in the presence of a magnetic field.

Ferrofluids are colloidal mixtures composed of nanoscale ferromagnetic, or ferrimagnetic, particles suspended in a carrier fluid, usually an organic solvent or water. The ferromagnetic nano-particles are coated with a surfactant to prevent their agglomeration (due to van der Waals and magnetic forces). Although the name may suggest otherwise, ferrofluids do not display ferromagnetism, since they do not retain magnetization in the absence of an externally applied field. In fact, ferrofluids display (bulk-scale) paramagnetism, and are often described as "superparamagnetic" due to their large magnetic susceptibility. Permanently magnetized fluids are difficult to create at present.[1]

The difference between ferrofluids and magnetorheological fluids (MR fluids) is the size of the particles. The particles in a ferrofluid primarily consist of nanoparticles which are suspended by Brownian motion and generally will not settle under normal conditions. MR fluid particles primarily consist of micrometre-scale particles which are too heavy for Brownian motion to keep them suspended, and thus will settle over time due to the inherent density difference between the particle and its carrier fluid. These two fluids have very different applications as a result.


How does this apply?

subquantum kinetics

Subquantum Kinetics (a nontechnical summary) Subquantum kinetics is a novel microphysics paradigm that incorporates concepts developed in the fields of system theory and nonequilibrium thermodynamics. One of its distinctive features is that it begins at the subquantum level for its point of departure.

By comparison, conventional physics and most alternative physics theories begin with mathematically quantified observations of physical phenomena at the quantum and macrophysical level and attempt to deduce physical theories based on those observations. Since the conventional approach must take into account numerous experimental observations, the end result is a fragmented and often contradictory set of theories which must later be sewn together with mathematical acrobatics. Such "unified field theories" more closely resemble a patchwork quilt than a contiguous fabric.

Here are excellent links I think you'll find eye opening
LaVIOLETTE, PH.D Electro gravitics & UFO propulsion

Dr. Paul Czysz, Professor of Aeronautical Engineering

Here some other very good informative sites.

Alien Engineering
US Gov't Slowly Released Reverse Engineered UFO Technologies
Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) & Groom Lake?
Maximum Distortion

If your still not convinced Take a gander at this.

There is no direct link because we can only reproduce what they found with only our human understanding, materials and present technology which lead us in new directions of experiments. Also in order to maintain security they had to make it seem that this tech came from the private sector as not to let out the fact of where it came from

Lots of failures

No we did not get Velcro from Aliens

What the TR-3B could possibly look like

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posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:32 PM
Yeah, something happened between 1933 and 1954 to stimulate technology development, it was WW2. Corso was a chancer and lier. Until you can find links between the disseminators of the alleged alien technology and the putative inventors you are just spouting the same nonsense. In archaeology it's called the cultural diffusion fallacy. The belief that we are so unworthy/ignorant that we could not come up with the stuff ourselves, add to that the fact that the gap between scientific knowledge and common sensense understanding is gets bigger as time goes by.

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:37 PM
Thanks Slayer for the new thread and I hope it will be very productive for all.

May be it will bring out some new claims/evidence from people in the no who may post on here?

Anyway the skeptic time bomb will go off anytime soon

10. 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. Ready!!

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Bob Down Under]

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:41 PM
reply to post by Bob Down Under

Cry Havoc And Let Slip The Dogs of War!

Yeah I'm ready.
I got all my links lined up and ready to go!

[edit on 8-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:47 PM
Here is a link on Morphing Metals as claimed by this site.

A good read

Also this

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posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:48 PM
Wow...S'd+F'd guys... soooo much to read through.


posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 05:51 PM
sheeesh slayer, there will be disclosure already by the time i get through all of this..

thanks for the material, ill respond later after ive digested many new ideas im sure will keep me thinking for years to come. thank you again. star and flag.yeeeeeeea

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 06:26 PM
reply to post by blupblup

Please let either Bob or I know what you thought when you finish.
Thanks again

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 06:28 PM
I would like to ad a few more good reading links.

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 06:34 PM

Originally posted by LordThumbs
sheeesh slayer, there will be disclosure already by the time i get through all of this..

thanks for the material, ill respond later after ive digested many new ideas im sure will keep me thinking for years to come. thank you again. star and flag.yeeeeeeea

One can only wish this would happen as we are typing

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 06:41 PM
reply to post by SLAYER69

Certainly will do.... you gonna be here in about A WEEK???

Seriously great work though!!

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 06:50 PM
Bob and I will be adding more links and data, the problem is we amassed so much that it will be supplied only if the need for clarification arises

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 07:05 PM

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Bob and I will be adding more links and data, the problem is we amassed so much that it will be supplied only if the need for clarification arises

For those that are into the elusive TR3B & Aurora tml

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Bob Down Under]

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 07:05 PM

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Bob and I will be adding more links and data, the problem is we amassed so much that it will be supplied only if the need for clarification arises

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 07:05 PM

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Bob and I will be adding more links and data, the problem is we amassed so much that it will be supplied only if the need for clarification arises


I had better slow the links down

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Bob Down Under]

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 07:37 PM
reply to post by Bob Down Under

Yeah lets not give the whole show away in one sitting there buddy
Lets wait for the Debunkers to come happily by before we bush wack em

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 08:20 PM
" but I ask how else would primitive man describe something that they are completely unaware of? They would put things into their own words with descriptions that they are familiar with. "

Thats a damn good point.

Thanks for gathering all this information and sticking it in one convenient thread. This is going to be a good read... and... er... watch.

[edit on 8-1-2009 by kreese]

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