and? Israel have been killing UN personal - they`ll ignore this as they did in the 6 day war - they`ll stop when they want to , and to critise them , you`ll be labeled anti-semite

That is good news that they have agreed on a resolution. Now maybe they can get their heads together and find a freaking solution to this problem once and for all. Demanding two groups to stop fighting is not the same as making them stop fighting.

Originally posted by Harlequin
- they`ll ignore this as they did in the 6 day war

According to the TV news - BOTH SIDES continued the war during the 3 hour cease fire. BOTH SIDES.


This article says that Arabs and the West agree ... but it didn't say that the Israelies and the Palestinians - who are the ones actually doing the fighting - agree.

I guess Israel's bloodlust has been temporarily satiated.

was anyone else hit with the significance of Palestinians in Syria holding out???? WHAT!!!!! Wow. I guess beggars can be choosers.
Am I supposed to believe (yes, i know the source), that the friends and families of the apparent "genocide victims" wish to hold out for a better deal? What could that POSSIBLY cause but more death. If this report turns out to be true, the Palestine has gotten a lot more shady in my opinion.

Originally posted by heyo
was anyone else hit with the significance of Palestinians in Syria holding out???? WHAT!!!!! Wow. I guess beggars can be choosers.
Am I supposed to believe (yes, i know the source), that the friends and families of the apparent "genocide victims" wish to hold out for a better deal? What could that POSSIBLY cause but more death. If this report turns out to be true, the Palestine has gotten a lot more shady in my opinion.

"I BELIEVE" the Syrians that they were referring to were ousted Hamas leaders who ran into the waiting arms of Syria.

"I believe" they don't care about anyone’s civilians injuries/deaths.

What we need to see is if both sides agree to this and adhere to it.

I REALLY wonder what reassurances have been given to Israel and by whom, that the Hamas won't do their usual rearm and attack again?

Any case, stop to fighting is good.

Stop to attacks is better.

Lasting peace is the ultimate goal, lets all shoot for the ultimate goal.

Palestine organizations, especially Hamas, won't stop attacking Israel until Israel ends racist policies and withdraws to the original border mandate set by the British back in 1967, before the 6 day war at that time in 1967 that ordinary Palestinians probably did not even start.

Israel is attacking the wrong enemy, and always has used threats as a pretext to attack.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

What we need to see is if both sides agree to this and adhere to it.

I REALLY wonder what reassurances have been given to Israel and by whom, that the Hamas won't do their usual rearm and attack again?

As of the update I posted late this afternoon, neither Hamas nor Israel have made firm agreements. Israeli representatives did go to Egypt today to try to work out details of an agreement, but they have not yet made a firm commitment. Hamas and its representatives in Syria have agreed to nothing.

The U.N. is meeting as of this writing and I hope something definite can be achieved.

Originally posted by Sestias

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

What we need to see is if both sides agree to this and adhere to it.

I REALLY wonder what reassurances have been given to Israel and by whom, that the Hamas won't do their usual rearm and attack again?

As of the update I posted late this afternoon, neither Hamas nor Israel have made firm agreements. Israeli representatives did go to Egypt today to try to work out details of an agreement, but they have not yet made a firm commitment. Hamas and its representatives in Syria have agreed to nothing.

The U.N. is meeting as of this writing and I hope something definite can be achieved.

I don't know but.........

It seems the security council has agreed to a cease fire, but both waring parties have not...... yet???

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

I don't know but.........

It seems the security council has agreed to a cease fire, but both waring parties have not...... yet???

That's right. It really looked like Israel was going to commit yesterday, but then the U.S. abstained from the U.N. vote at the last minute and that may have been a factor in Israel's backing out, too. If one of their strongest allies isn't going to pressure them, why should they bend now until they can get their ultimate goal--an absolute assurance that Hamas will cease their rocket attacks and not resume new hostilities as soon as they gather force again?

Hamas has stated it was not invited to the table during negotiations and thus do not recognize them. They want to be recognized as a legitimate government in Gaza and also want the borders opened. Israel has closed them to prevent more weapons from entering.

In short, the whole cease-fire effort has apparently fizzled out.

That is very disappointing to much of the world.