the Holocaust did NOT happen

Well, evidently part of that statement at least is debatable.
www.geniebusters.org...

I may have to disagree with you.

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reply to post by sensfan

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I have heard a lot about the Holocaust not being real, but I believe it is. From what I hear about the stories, It seems totally real to me now.

reply to post by DimensionIntrusion

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No one died of a Zyklon B allergy, they were gassed to death. Perhaps you believe that the early camp victims including the mentally retarded, gays and Communists who were gassed with carbon monoxide from a truck pipe were being given preventive treatment for lung disease, correct? This goes back to the mid-1930s, read up on it some time.
If you do not believe this come to Florida and I can introduce you to a very nice bunch of Holocaust survivors who would love to set you straight on this issue. You cannot deny that millions were murdered. Starving, torturing or working them to death in a prison camp is definitely murder.

reply to post by secretagent woooman

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"If you do not believe this come to Florida and I can introduce you to a very nice bunch of Holocaust survivors who would love to set you straight on this issue."


I bet the would. But according to Him they are not Holocaust survivors and are lying.

Why would he travel all the way to Florida to hear their lies?

Like you - his mind is already made up, so I won't bother you guys with the facts either.

Wow, this is pathetic. You people are attacking someone for questioning numbers in history? Doing so means you deny that history is manipulated. The numbers are inflated.

When you are at war it isn't strategic to slaughter all your slaves. You keep the ones that can work and kill the sick ones before it spreads and infects the entire facility. Its just logic, especially consider who operates the USA and Britain.

The holocaust happened, but I am tired of people calling ones that question the statistics Anti Semite because they are told more then just Jews died. Them acting like that means they think they are more important then anyone else. I thought the winner of war rewrites history. Or am I in a different dimension?

Manipulation should be expected.

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Then you can disagree with my gramma, who is a survivor and saw them with her own eyes. She doesn't have any motive to lie, she lives in the USA with no plans to move to Israel or anything.

Again, if you don't believe survivors about simple stuff like that, I can arrange for you to come have dinner with my gramma and I. No problem. I'll pay for it.

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That's right. That's what the doors looked like, the same as regular doors. My grandma said they had two lines for the showers to get clean when you first arrived. Get in the wrong shower, and you're a goner.

I did history at university and we as historians were not allowed to question if it happen at all, pretty amazing if the main methodology of historical research is to ask the question why and when and if. People were frightened and most where bending over backwards to prove how they believed in it


I have a reading list for my holocaust course most if all were either Jewish or pro Jewish, hardly objective is it, no debate all closed down.


However the killer is this, the evidence for the holocuast is so minute, in that it comes from thousands of different sources where one has to speak and read a mired of languages, from Russian to Serbo Croat etc, it means that all the holocaust research is open to massive interpretation because of the disparate nature of the so called evidence, there is no definitive proof in a single sense that it actually happened, but holocaust historians get their view from all these disparate sources, thats why they never play the number game because there is lot of holes in this, thats why they want to make it a crime to deny the holocaust, because it is so easy to disprove in a free historical research without political or social interference . This is from the words of my course tutor and there was shock and silence in the room. I knew this of course, i was questioning as a historian, i was not prepared to accept spoon fed what some idiot told me..


My tutor said the reason why people want to make holocust denial a crime was to stop people like the nazis saying it did not happen, but i thought if t here so much evidence out there it can with stand the test of scrutiny and
rigorous historical research, but the problem it cannot and that is the reason why people are being persecuted for searching for the truth. If an event is supposed to happen on the scale they say it happened then there must be so much evidence out there, that it stands on it own and speaks out to us clearly, but it does not. People are branded a holocuast denier, and this is done to stop research and finding out the truth.

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if i lived in a concentration camp i would be thinking i would die soon just like the boars did in 1899 -1901 but there is evidence that no one knew what was happening to the Jews until the war was over, the allies did not bomb the camps or the infrastructure, because either they knew and did not care or did not believe it. be sides your grandma must 110 now. however there is a book, written in about 1940 which states millions of Jews where being killed in europe but lol, that would mean the writer knew before the Germans decided supposed to do some thing about the Jewish question at the Wansee conference n 1942 i think lol, the book was published by the world Jewish congress i think, it been 15 years since i have seen it at my local library and boy did i get funny looks in 1994 when i saw was ordering the books

"Minute" ?

So the testimony of the soldiers who liberated the camps, the survivors, the camp guards, the witnesses and the Nazi's own written records and photographs are minute, and offers no definitive proof that it actually happened eh?

I take it you don't believe in the D-Day landings then?

End of story. Thank you. I've read accounts of people visiting those sites, and without going there myself, I'll go with what they say. You can just FEEL it. A great injustice was done in these places and WE as humanity have to bear that burden. Yes, all of us.

Did the nazis murder people; YES!

Did the nazis gas people in mass; NO PROOF!