Wow, this is pathetic. You people are attacking someone for questioning numbers in history? Doing so means you deny that history is manipulated. The numbers are inflated.

When you are at war it isn't strategic to slaughter all your slaves. You keep the ones that can work and kill the sick ones before it spreads and infects the entire facility. Its just logic, especially consider who operates the USA and Britain.

The holocaust happened, but I am tired of people calling ones that question the statistics Anti Semite because they are told more then just Jews died. Them acting like that means they think they are more important then anyone else. I thought the winner of war rewrites history. Or am I in a different dimension?

Manipulation should be expected.

I did history at university and we as historians were not allowed to question if it happen at all, pretty amazing if the main methodology of historical research is to ask the question why and when and if. People were frightened and most where bending over backwards to prove how they believed in it


I have a reading list for my holocaust course most if all were either Jewish or pro Jewish, hardly objective is it, no debate all closed down.


However the killer is this, the evidence for the holocuast is so minute, in that it comes from thousands of different sources where one has to speak and read a mired of languages, from Russian to Serbo Croat etc, it means that all the holocaust research is open to massive interpretation because of the disparate nature of the so called evidence, there is no definitive proof in a single sense that it actually happened, but holocaust historians get their view from all these disparate sources, thats why they never play the number game because there is lot of holes in this, thats why they want to make it a crime to deny the holocaust, because it is so easy to disprove in a free historical research without political or social interference . This is from the words of my course tutor and there was shock and silence in the room. I knew this of course, i was questioning as a historian, i was not prepared to accept spoon fed what some idiot told me..


My tutor said the reason why people want to make holocust denial a crime was to stop people like the nazis saying it did not happen, but i thought if t here so much evidence out there it can with stand the test of scrutiny and
rigorous historical research, but the problem it cannot and that is the reason why people are being persecuted for searching for the truth. If an event is supposed to happen on the scale they say it happened then there must be so much evidence out there, that it stands on it own and speaks out to us clearly, but it does not. People are branded a holocuast denier, and this is done to stop research and finding out the truth.

Originally posted by Mulberry
However the killer is this, the evidence for the holocuast is so minute, in that it comes from thousands of different sources where one has to speak and read a mired of languages, from Russian to Serbo Croat etc, it means that all the holocaust research is open to massive interpretation because of the disparate nature of the so called evidence, there is no definitive proof in a single sense that it actually happened

"Minute" ?

So the testimony of the soldiers who liberated the camps, the survivors, the camp guards, the witnesses and the Nazi's own written records and photographs are minute, and offers no definitive proof that it actually happened eh?

I take it you don't believe in the D-Day landings then?

Originally posted by redled
Technically, this could be propoganda.

In 1946 in Britain, they showed all German Prisoners of War a film including Auschwetch, and other concentration camps. The German soldiers left those films either silent or in tears. Germany has had all the evidence and has accepted this nationally.

I was in Prague a few years ago and there was a deportation camp that killed 40,000 but sent most to Auswetch to die and the Czechs do not dispute this. Of course this may be for tourist trade.

If you want to show extreme right wing credentials, follow this, you'll find Nazis everywhere wanting to make love to you.

If you want the truth, come to Europe, go to the sites, speak to the locals and work it out for yourself. You're playing with fire here, and yes all media could be lies, and yes, prevailing truths can be also, just go to those areas and witness it for yourself if you care that much.

Again, if you're making your name as a Conservative Republican this may be a good move, but if you want others to listen to you, I suggest you check out your facts, and $6m very carefully. (I hope a bullet costs a dollar, Hitler did not think the Jewish people to be that.... allegedly).

End of story. Thank you. I've read accounts of people visiting those sites, and without going there myself, I'll go with what they say. You can just FEEL it. A great injustice was done in these places and WE as humanity have to bear that burden. Yes, all of us.

Did the nazis murder people; YES!

Did the nazis gas people in mass; NO PROOF!