Amazing solar-powered fridge invented by British student in a potting shed helps poverty-stricken Af, page 3
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 08:06 AM by poet1b
reply to post by Desolate Cancer



Never heard of him before, but I have heard of this type of application. A hole in the ground also does the same thing, which is why cellars were invented. Sounds like this girl added a newer twist, with a metal inside container, and a looser fill to increase evaporation and thermal flow.

Maybe the auther made up her having introduced something new to help Africans, and maybe not. I don't see the reason to attack the woman for coming up with a new twist. Chances are, that like me, she had never heard of the zeerpot, and who knows who might have invented the first device to use natural water evaporation to cool things, as this has been used for centruies in various areas of the world. Ever hear of a swamp cooler?


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 03:07 PM by Long Lance
Originally posted by DarkSecret
..although the sunshine would make it more efficient since it speeds up evaporation.



sunlight makes evaporation more efficient, that's true, but that's not the goal, is it? the reason the water evaporates more quickly is a greater amount of heat flow, which needs to be compensated for.

if you really wanted a decent cooler which utilised heat, you'd have to try an absorption cooler

www.gasairconditioning.org...

i find it mildly depressing that everyone jumped on the bandwagon, heck a bit of sponge, tinfoil and a bottle would do in a pinch and you could try it anytime at home (substitute towels for sponges if necessary..). btw, don't forget to put holes in the tinfoil.

deserving of a degree in engineering? no comment.


PS: don't you think the real issues exist much closer, at home? don't you find it stupid that we are venting the hot side of fridges into heated rooms, for example? heat pumps of all kinds are barely understood, unfortunately.

edit: better link

[edit on 2009.1.9 by Long Lance]



reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 03:50 PM by DarkSecret
Originally posted by Long Lance

sunlight makes evaporation more efficient, that's true, but that's not the goal, is it? the reason the water evaporates more quickly is a greater amount of heat flow, which needs to be compensated for.

if you really wanted a decent cooler which utilised heat, you'd have to try an absorption cooler

www.gasairconditioning.org...


the point here is to make it easy to reproduce with cheap/non toxic materials in a poor country with hot & dry climate.

as a side note if you really want a cool fridge for use in cold weather (would work nicely in the nothern US or europe) go here:

fourmileisland.com...

the refrigerant is probably SO2 (not mentioned in the article probably because its quite toxic and forbidden to play with unless you have proper authorization) but it's truly zero energy


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 07:50 PM by Suckatash
Originally posted by masonwatcher

Wow. If more clever people turned their mind to by-passing corporate manufactures, maybe consumers can overcome wasteful energy consumption.

While this particular invention is basic, further ingenious improvements can reduce the minimum temperature of the fridge to below freezing. We will no longer require wasteful quantities of fossil fuel based energy to power our homes. This of course, will require additional inventiveness.

Can any of the brainy members of ATS look into inventing a steam powered PC or some other kind of energy producing sources for our computers?

Many thanks.

www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)






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I'm working on other things but if you want a heads up on steam power ideas try this thinking hat on for size dude. Using used car/truck radiators painted black and put up on the roof that create the steam you need to power more than a PC and gives you hot water. Need to store the energy like in a battery? Ever notice how even a small pool will contain most of the heat it collected during the day and it is open air. Look into geothermal "batteries", using the thermodynamic properties of water to make a veritable heat storage/water storage under your house underground, heat it during the day and store it at night so you start heating the water higher the next day (energy needed to start from 25 deg C compared to energy needed to start from 35 deg C).
Stop asking questions and start doing for yourself, lazy *bleep*! Wakey wakey, eggs and bacon.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 07:58 PM by Suckatash
Originally posted by Nirgal
reply to
post by Skyfloating


Does it not require water as an essential part of the refrigeration process?

If African water is at a premium then this device might become a luxury.

Need to desalinate water and raise it 20 meters off the ground? Convert it to steam and you kill many birds with one stone:
1. Potential energy (steam is lighter than air and you can collect the hot water by-product up in a storage tank giving it potential energy, no pumps needed.)
2. Steam carries very few volatiles and definitely leaves salt behind.
3. The steam water is sterile this got you down? Throw in some rocks and clay deposits, heck even mineral salts if you got the money, the steam will dissolve the minerals it needs for healthy african families!
4. Stop talking and start changing the world B****atches!!! Stop thinking and start making MOVES!!!


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 09:58 PM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Suckatash


Even just desalinating water will be enough to survive.

Here's a quick diagram I drew up of a solar desalination device, I forget where I've seen it before but it is a damn good idea.

It's comprised of either glass or clear plastic with 3 chambers and a pitched roof:




Fairly self explanatory and cheap to make.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:08 AM by satire111
www.emilycummins.co.uk...
this young girl, who my wife met by chance in london, pasionatly cares about helping people in africa, look at her website
to all the critics what had you done by the time you were 21 and was it helping mankind in a careing way
i think the british tabloids may sensationalise but when most of the uk are only concerned about who is being evicted from big brother or who is winning on x factor maybe we get the press we deserve
as for the mention from one poster about racism, how can miss cummins be racist when she is trying to help people from africa whilst she is british???
give people like her support and we will all live in a better world i think!


reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 09:03 AM by DarkSecret
Originally posted by Suckatash
I'm working on other things but if you want a heads up on steam power ideas try this thinking hat on for size dude. Using used car/truck radiators painted black and put up on the roof that create the steam you need to power more than a PC and gives you hot water. Need to store the energy like in a battery? Ever notice how even a small pool will contain most of the heat it collected during the day and it is open air. Look into geothermal "batteries", using the thermodynamic properties of water to make a veritable heat storage/water storage under your house underground, heat it during the day and store it at night so you start heating the water higher the next day (energy needed to start from 25 deg C compared to energy needed to start from 35 deg C).


a steam engine generator even to power your PC is very expensive if it's done safely especially due to the high pressures involved. i remember looking into it and it's not worth the savings. use the solar panels for heating water or underfloor heating - that's the cheapest investment which will save you most money.

pre-heating water is very useful if you have one of those "instant heaters" which are very popular in europe instead of the traditional water heater which keeps water hot all the time. however these heaters and their installation can be very expensive in the US and so will adding the extra pre-heater tank with solar panels (and being up to building codes with all the safety valves, double walls etc). trying to be "handy" and not respecting the codes will be costly in the long run when your system blows up and floods your basement with hot water or you get burned at the faucet or worse...


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 11:33 AM by Anonymous ATS
Mohammed Bah Abba did it ten years ago.

see
www.treehugger.com...

It was one of Time Magazine's inventions of the year in 2001 and won a Rolex award. It is made locally and sells for forty cents.
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