What makes me laugh is that he is using an Israeli news source. Haven't we all realized that all objectivity is thrown out when you use an Israeli source?

Originally posted by Bl0rg
What makes me laugh is that he is using an Israeli news source. Haven't we all realized that all objectivity is thrown out when you use an Israeli source?

I was just going to say the same thing Is any side here credible. I distrust ANYTHING Israel says just as much as I would HAMAS.

More likely its yet another MOSSAD false flag. They have done it to the United States (aka the Lavon Affair) so its a no brainer eh?

Originally posted by Bl0rg
What makes me laugh is that he is using an Israeli news source. Haven't we all realized that all objectivity is thrown out when you use an Israeli source?

Haha. That's funny. Because I've seen about 20 posts with 40+ flags on them over the past 2 weeks with news sources coming straight out of al-Jazeera or other Arab news organizations. Hypocritical much, are we?

Wait, the map shows what, and how do you know what it shows? Someone told you what it shows, right?

To my eyes, it looks like it could be anything from a flow chart on pig farm profits to a set of directions on how to get to the 7-11.

Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Wait, the map shows what, and how do you know what it shows? Someone told you what it shows, right?

To my eyes, it looks like it could be anything from a flow chart on pig farm profits to a set of directions on how to get to the 7-11.

Once again, people are quick to believe anything al-Jazeera says without so much as a picture, but when Israel says something and provides a picture (albeit small), you suddenly question? Again, hypocritical.

Originally posted by neformore
.both sides in this bitter, bitter conflict are as guilty as each other.

I think the entire world should butt out and let them beat the snot out of each other and FINALLY get it over with. Then we don't have to hear about either of them anymore. Those that die get the Darwin Award. Those that don't die will, hopefully, be smarter.

All sides are using propaganda to push their agenda...

This just looks like yet more...I wouldn't trust it to be honest

Originally posted by Amberite
Once again, people are quick to believe anything al-Jazeera says without so much as a picture, but when Israel says something and provides a picture (albeit small), you suddenly question? Again, hypocritical.

Okay so whos story will you beleive? News comming from the IDF controlled West bank where they do not allow reporters and our own MSM which shows a few clips of a settler home that was hit by a rocket with one injury or the 30 people killed at a bombed school? Or al-Jazeera which face it is the most credible news source for people in the Middle East. Think of them as an Arabic Fox News

Yet a vague map produced by the IDF/Mossad and you buy faster than an Merkava tank shooting at civilians.

Hello pot its the kettle..........YOUR BLACK

Its not too far fetched to think that israel could have made and planted that map. I dont see any reason why they wouldn't have. Now thats thinking in the grey area.

I've saved and blownup the image in photoshop, tried to sharpen the image, adjusted levels, etc and still cant get any better detail as its a low-resolution scan to begin with, so there's no objective way to determine whether the far smaller written text is arabic or hebrew.

The only defined text is on the left in large arabic characters...

even if you could read arabic it would almost impossible to determine just what the smaller annotations read.

Another point...who's to say that this map wasn't a hand drawn on-the-ground tactical street-fighting map by an IDF soldier detailing targets, fire points, and objectives? We don't even know what area of Gaza its representing

All that is evident is handwritten arabic on the left of the map, and a claim by Ynet that it was found by IDF troops.

Mossad and Shin Bet have Arabic speakers, I am sure they also have paper and coloured pens.

Now they have disclosed that they know where the booby traps are, what is to stop Hamas from jumbling it up a bit. Israel's announcement makes no military sense because they haven't entered Gaza proper yet but it makes propaganda sense.

Hamas will know the truth for now and this announcement will have meaning to them. If it is true, they see clearly that Israel has no intention of entering Gaza and they don't care if Hamas has booby trapped buildings.

If it is a falsehood Hamas will conclude that Israel intends to continue the conflict and the propaganda is just grist for the mill.

In the scheme of things, booby trapping civilian houses to kill invaders is not a crime. Booby traps are defensive installations designed to harm aggressors. Israel is in the invidious position of complaining about the obvious and inevitable.



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amberite

So..you're saying that because some people believe what Al Jazeera says, they should believe this too? I'm not sure that makes sense - in fact, I'm sure it doesn't.

That diagram could be anything, we have no idea.

If Al Jazeera posted that same thing and said it was proof that the IDF was intentionally targeting civilians without cause, I would be just as skeptical.