reply to post by SectionEight
I don't see where you think I am wrong on all accounts. I said the name Palestine was Roman in origin which it is... I never said that the people
living there weren't called Palestinians... and I also specifically said that the Palestinian people includes Jews, Christians and Muslims.
I never discussed the Grand Mufta.
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reply to post by grover
Sorry, I was mainly concerned with your period up to 47 statement and your paragraph outlining a solution.
The Palestinians were manipulated through corrupt leadership. They were not displaced like Indians. The ruling authorities brought down every hardship
upon the people and never once sought any prosperity.
The solution can only occur with the destruction of the PLO and HAMAS and its infrastucture of hate, they are direct extensions of the power put in
place in the seat of the Gran Muffti. Their breeding ground of hate is their vehicle for holding onto power. They will not negotiate it away at some
peace table for it would mean their demise.
The Palestinian people have no say in anything and are kept in that willfull state by the mechanisms put in place by the ruling parties. It can be
directly compared to Nazi Germany where the people as a whole were guided into fanatical devotion to their leaders, those who dissented didn't last
long. There are no dissenters left in Palestine, they were eradicated long ago. There is no other path but the one they are on.
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reply to post by SectionEight
Good Post Grover. I completely agree. These poor Palestinian people have been put in this position by Hamas and their ilk before them. Very sad.
Comparing them to freedom fighters is such a sad comparison. Considering that they do not want peace, and will not accept peace. A perpetual state
of war guaranteeing their existence is what they want.
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The Palestinian people have largely been disinfranchized by their own leaders because in part their leaders never have been given any real power to
begin with... the Ottomans kept all the power to themselves... the British played the time honored divide and conquor game by playing all sides
against the other, especially in the lead up to the 47 partition and the Israelis have never had a real vested interest in any form of Palestinian
power block either and the United States as Israel's puppet doesn't either.
Cases in point when Fatwa took over the west bank and gaza they so mismanaged the place and provided so little that it all but guarenteed a Hamas win
in the general elections. Why? Because Hamas, like Hezbullah are more than paramilitary "terrorist" organizations... they provide social, economic
and medical services to the population as well which is far more than Fatwa ever did.
Besides all of that Israel (and by extension the United States) shot itself in the proverbial foot by refusing to engage Hamas when they won the
elections in 06. Like them or not they were chosen by the people and consequently were soverign... by refusing to engage them, terrorist activities or
not, we basically gave them a carte blanc to continue as they had, which they did. If we had held our noses and engaged them like a duely elected
party, which they were we would have in essence forced them to behave as such and could have possibly gotten them to acknowledge Israel and give up
their paramilitary activities and become a truly legitmate political force.
In short arrogance blew it.
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