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Lost beer bottle on mars?


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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 08:49 AM by OuttaHere


Originally posted by groingrinder
Epic logic failure!!! Please evacuate the website in an orderly but timely fashion. *insert warning buzzer here*

Beer drinkers litter the roadsides with their bottles... ... self respecting beer drinkers throw away ALOT of bottles.


Umm I wasn't trying to be logical, just silly.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they find life on Mars. I just thought the beer bottle thing was funny.

Some people will argue about anything.




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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 01:00 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by noonebutme
Nope. It's a rock. But the human brain always looks for patterns in order to decode the world around it and when influenced by what you want to see, you'll see something other than what's really there.


Really? Another Paredolia post? How marvelously original...

I think I will make a debunkers handbook with numbers for standard responses...
1) Its just rocks
2) Its Paredolia
3) Your crazy.... etc.

Then you guys can save time and valuable bandwidth by just posting a number

Originally posted by the siren

I agree it's a rock, but regardless of quality I don't agree that it lends itself to easy misinterpretation because it is clearly far too big to be a bottle...it's even too big to be a champaigne bottle as previously mentioned.


Hmmmm and just how big is it? Its easy enough to measure as they give details at NASA...

But maybe its one of these.... it's 'just rock' too... well sorta...





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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 03:21 PM by mars1


If you look in the bottom right you will see what looks like a pick axe or watering can thats what i think anyway.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 03:40 PM by mars1


Also just above the rover to the right look at the stone just under that black stone looks like its got a pic of a frog on it i know just a rock but looks strange



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:43 PM by noonebutme


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Haha!

So you're first approach to truth seeking is to *assume* the most illogical possibility, that it's a "Bottle" on Mars.

Or wait.. is it not really a picture of Mars but... [duh-duh-duhhh!] a desert landscape from Earth being used in a conspiracy theory by the Illuminaughty?


Nice. I love this place -- ATS isn't about truth seeking, it's about making the illogical logical using suposition and assumptions.

"Truthiness : truth that comes from the gut, not from books or facts"

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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:51 PM by mystiq


Actually, I've read for years that the best scientists go for the simplest answer first. And they're more often right when they do this. That the more hoops you have to go through to explain something that the eye recognizes, the more you are being led like cattle by a hoop you let them put in your nose. Even if that isn't what it appears, then its not organic, natural or a rock. It is one of the many thousands of signs of civilization (past or present) on Mars.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 10:06 PM by imd12c4funn


In the same original image, I was looking for that bottle, and guess what.

I found a puppy!




link to full image
i528.photobucket.com...


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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 10:11 PM by RFBurns


Darn. I was hoping someone would find Marvin Martian's little red Martian Mouse.

2nd line


Cheers!!!!



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 01:45 AM by TsunamiLight


Reminds me of this commercial.. www.youtube.com...


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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 01:59 AM by mungodave


I have studied said pics and found it to be a stage prop.

Think " The gods must be crazy"

Excited martians running around clucking and so forth
Mwaaahahahaha..

Its a rock

Ciao
Mungo



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:02 AM by azkath


Simulacrum, pareidolia, double magnum, or a couple of rocks...

It's the likeness of a bottle, by any other name. =P



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 02:42 PM by depthoffield


Originally posted by zorgon

Really? Another Paredolia post? How marvelously original...

I think I will make a debunkers handbook with numbers for standard responses...
1) Its just rocks
2) Its Paredolia
3) Your crazy.... etc.

Then you guys can save time and valuable bandwidth by just posting a number



I think: 1 AND 2, and sometimes a little of 3.

About 2, it is how our brains works: searching in his database and trying to match with something there.

Why are you angry? Now, saying again and again : look, pareidolia! It is not mistake from people who says this....This responses are just consequences of samples of pareidolia. When examples of appear, then surely somebody has to label it. To rule out the confusion.



This remainded to my own example:

Here is LADY DEATH :


Here is the adnotated version:



And here is the whole image:



I think is a lost plastic bottle of juice or beer in the bush.

Lady Death? No, pareidolia.





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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 03:54 PM by wylekat


Someone explain something to me....

I have the high resolution .tif file of PIA10214 on my computer... I have just run that picture up, down, sideways and backwards- and I dont see a bottle, much less a rock that looks like a bottle.

What gives?



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 05:21 PM by azkath


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Sure. It's about halfway up the image from the rover's left solar panel, and slightly to the right. Or at the point 5570x1660 if you prefer. Hope this helps!



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 11:32 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by depthoffield
Here is LADY DEATH :




adding to list

4)imagination

thats some imagination you have there and a touch of #3

Try your skills on this one... errrr nah never mind thats for another thread



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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:42 AM by the siren


Originally posted by zorgon
Hmmmm and just how big is it? Its easy enough to measure as they give details at NASA...


I don't think you even need NASA. Just look at the perspective and judge the size by sand grain.



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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 10:25 AM by depthoffield


Originally posted by zorgon

adding to list

4)imagination

thats some imagination you have there and a touch of #3




Not quite, 2 (pareidolia) is a subset of 4 (imagination).

I'm glad you seem to understand


That rock here, just seems to resemble a bottle in our mind. Pareidolia (or imagination). Anyway it's "neck" it's not straight, but a little rounded. It may be a special bottle (a martian one)

Lack of resolution (not enough information) favorize our brain to fill the details as he can.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 09:13 AM by wylekat


I finally found the thing- and after a good hard look and a little sharpening, I see that the lefthand edge is square, not round.

Sorry- just s funny looking rock.



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:34 AM by rocksarerocks


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Leave it to Zorgon to come into a thread and post a totally unrelated picture which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rock that the OP posted. Great job, carry on spamming the forums.



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 01:14 PM by BornPatriot


appearently this is the one of thousands of photos in a line up... just change the last couple of numbers lower or higher if you want to see more pictures of mars...
click the orignal link ... then change 14.jpg to 13 etc. etc...

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