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Lost beer bottle on mars?


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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 11:48 AM by Anonymous ATS


If that is a bottle, it is absolutely huge. Using the rover as a basis point (which is rougly the size of half an SUV) the bottle would probably be as big as a small television set or larger. I believe in life on mars, but NASA is in no way dumb enough to let something leak in an Official picture. Cmon people.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 11:50 AM by RFBurns


That is taken from the Sol 1367 dataset of combined PanCam images to make the wide angle view. Actual raw data source is HERE.

It is two rocks, one smaller one and a larger one in close proximity that makes it "look" like a bottle.

The color texture of these rocks are the same as the nearby larger rocks with the same color texture.


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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:07 PM by RFBurns


Here is a quick layering of the 3 raw dataset images for that section of the PanCam wide angle view. I have circled the "bottle" rock and others nearby that have the same color texture.

If you look closely, you can see the "bottle" is comprised of two rocks.







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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:54 PM by OuttaHere


Just about no self-respecting beer drinker loses his beer bottle.

I want to see a thread where they find all the socks that go missing from the laundry.

The headline would look something like this:
Giant Cache of Mismatched Socks Found on Mars!

[edit on 8-1-2009 by OuttaHere]



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:07 PM by groingrinder


Originally posted by Grock
So thats where my bottle went. I have a hard time remembering last night but it all makes perfect sense now lol

No but seriously, while i DO believe in life on mars, i doubt thats a bottle. Most likely conclusion would be that its a bottle shaped rock. If it were a bottle (made of glass) how would it last so long? why arent there more bottles lying around? A bottle laying out all by itself sounds a little suspicious.

Last time i found a bottle it had something left in it and i had to fight some bums just to hold on to my well earned prize. I find it hard to believe it would continue to lay there unmolested by the bums.


How do you know how long it has lasted? Maybe it is jet age plastic and not glass? Maybe it has been there only a week? Reminds me of the time I was a passenger in a semi truck. We stopped at this little roadside rest stop in New Mexico and I went hiking in the surrounding countryside. About a mile from the rest stop I spied an ancient looking spice bottle laying among some boulders. Picking it up I noticed it was full of orange marijuana. I have never ever seen orange marijuana, so I can only conclude that it had been there for some time bleaching in the New Mexico sunshine. I cannot however begin to guess how long that might have been.

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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:14 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by MrRobarto
Yep its definately a bottle. All of the factorys and other building like millions of houses have dissapeared from the surface however this one stray bottle survived. *siiiiigggghhhhhhhh*


Just go out anywere in the Nevada desert... you will find bottle everywhere.. most broken because the cowboys used them for target practice, some molten blobs from being in the sun too long... but many intact especially outside of what used to be mining camps...

the bottles were usually tossed away OUTSIDE of settlements on dumps... or by horsemen on the way between towns tossing aside and whiskey bottle and being to drunk to hit it with a bullet

This is a practice still going on today... just drive down any rural highway and see all the tossed bottles (and bullet holes in road signs) and most survive the impact intact...

There is so much glass in the deserts out here from hundreds of years of litterbugs the ground sparkles like diamonds when the sun is at the right angle.

So this MAY be 'nothing but a rock' but your premise is incorrect



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:15 PM by groingrinder


Originally posted by OuttaHere
Just about no self-respecting beer drinker loses his beer bottle.

I want to see a thread where they find all the socks that go missing from the laundry.

The headline would look something like this:
Giant Cache of Mismatched Socks Found on Mars!

[edit on 8-1-2009 by OuttaHere]


Epic logic failure!!! Please evacuate the website in an orderly but timely fashion. *insert warning buzzer here*


Beer drinkers litter the roadsides with their bottles. My father and I used to pickup trash along hundreds of miles of Arizona highways each year. I can personally attest to the fact that self respecting beer drinkers throw away ALOT of bottles.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:16 PM by ravenshadow13


It looks like it's just a strange shape of lighter rock.
If it WAS a bottle, I heard that sometimes garbage gets emptied into space and floats around out there. If that is the case, it would be possible for the gravity of Mars to draw the bottle to it's surface.

Probably a rock, though.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:19 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by OuttaHere
Just about no self-respecting beer drinker loses his beer bottle.


Then I suppose most americans out here in the desert are NOT self respecting beer drinkers... but just dumbass litterbugs with no respect for the environment along with smokers who toss cigarette butts out and burn down millions of acres of forest every year... killing countless wildlife and destroying homes...

but hey we are talking Mars here...

So IF there are bottles tossed all over Mars... it would be proof we DO have a colony there.... or at least the Rover repair crew...

Because surely the Martians are not Cosmic Litterbugs like we are

[edit on 8-1-2009 by zorgon]



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:19 PM by muzzleflash


Originally posted by Kliskey
Perhaps the above picture was taken on earth? And the rover never actually made it to mars hehe


exactly

since the object is clearly a bottle, and its resolution decent enough to even see the LABEL on it???

Obviously the rover is on Earth in the desert.

Thats really disappointing and I causes me to feel very upset with NASA

Anyways how could a rock be half-transparent and have a label on it?

Guys think outside the box for a moment, this could be from the arizona or california desert...

I dont know if it is or isnt for sure, but it sure looks like the mars expidition is a hoax.

I certainly HOPE that im wrong...I would hate to be right about that



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:21 PM by muzzleflash


Originally posted by zorgon


So IF there are bottles tossed all over Mars... it would be proof we DO have a colony there.... or at least the Rover repair crew...

Because surely the Martians are not Cosmic Litterbugs like we are

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ahh excellant point

but for that to be true, I think they wouldnt be able to wear space suits and still drink open containers and then just toss it down.

That means if there is a mars colony, they can walk around without being full covered by space suits, IE : Breathable atmosphere on Mars???!!!



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:38 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by Kliskey
Perhaps the above picture was taken on earth? And the rover never actually made it to mars hehe



Like the Pathfinder?





Found Surveyor sitting on a Beach in Cali...




And here is Carl Sagan with a Viking Lander Somewhere in Death Valley




With all the restricted area around here who knows what else I could find. but the trick is to keep ahead of the Camo Dudes



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 05:45 PM by azkath


Originally posted by RFBurns
That is taken from the Sol 1367 dataset of combined PanCam images to make the wide angle view. Actual raw data source is HERE.

It is two rocks, one smaller one and a larger one in close proximity that makes it "look" like a bottle.

The color texture of these rocks are the same as the nearby larger rocks with the same color texture.


Cheers!!!!

Thanks for that link RFBurns, well spotted.

I've only looked briefly over those images but, it seems some of the parts aren't present (I was looking for a region almost to the far right and close to the rover). I imagine some parts of the panorama were taken on a different sol (or i'm just too tired and blurry)... I'll have to browse around a bit



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 06:47 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by muzzleflash
That means if there is a mars colony, they can walk around without being full covered by space suits, IE : Breathable atmosphere on Mars???!!!


Good point to be sure...

But according to John Lear about that atmosphere thingy.....

And NASA's MARS1 Humvee being tested in the Arctic sure looks like it doesn't need an airlock...




What I want to know is how they plan to get that up there?



Wrote the Humvee people and asked what they plan to use for fuel and how they would keep the engine from freezing at night... but tey have not yet replied



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:28 PM by InfaRedMan


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I'm kinda disappointed with the Humvee. I was expecting it to look a bit more sci-fi than that. Instead, it looks extremely retro and HEAVY!

What's the body of it composed of zorgon? Do you know? Carbon fibre? Or is it a 4 tonne, gulf ready fuel muncher?

Personally, I prefer the Lost In Space Chariot! Now that was cool!


IRM

[edit on 8/1/09 by InfaRedMan]



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:34 PM by amatrine


It looks more like a statue to me.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 07:31 AM by noonebutme


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Nope. It's a rock. But the human brain always looks for patterns in order to decode the world around it and when influenced by what you want to see, you'll see something other than what's really there.

So yes, just a rock -- the image is very low res, poor quality so it lends itself to easy misinterpretation.

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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 08:32 AM by the siren


Originally posted by noonebutme
reply to post by azkath



Nope. It's a rock. But the human brain always looks for patterns in order to decode the world around it and when influenced by what you want to see, you'll see something other than what's really there.

So yes, just a rock -- the image is very low res, poor quality so it lends itself to easy misinterpretation.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by noonebutme]


I agree it's a rock, but regardless of quality I don't agree that it lends itself to easy misinterpretation because it is clearly far too big to be a bottle...it's even too big to be a champaigne bottle as previously mentioned.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 08:46 AM by SeenAndNeverHeard


I think it's probably a rock...



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