Well, it depends on how you look at it.

Yes, we have to go through radical changes to get where we are going in 2012. I would have to say the Book of Revelations really sums this point in time pretty well, if you can get past all the symbolism in the New Testament.

It just seems to me that most people can't see the forest for the trees. They get too fixated on the physical tribulations we are about to face. I think its most important to get the message out that what happens in 2012 is spiritual rather than physical. Who knows, maybe we can spread the message?

Originally posted by Tgautier13

It just seems to me that most people can't see the forest for the trees. They get too fixated on the physical tribulations we are about to face. I think its most important to get the message out that what happens in 2012 is spiritual rather than physical. Who knows, maybe we can spread the message?

Of course 2012 is spiritual and not physical. The thing is people see the spiritual ascension and 2012 and get confussed. They have visions of their physical body raising up to the sky and as you say cant get past the physical. To me 2012 is TOTALLY about spirit but I can see why many think we will all be destroyed. I hope over the next few years many more thousands of people go through the awakening that has started. Otherwise as you say they will be unable to see the forest for the trees.

Somehow I think we will all still be here in 2013.

But hey, 2012 is going to be exciting. Conspiracy theories should always have a long timeline before the predicted "go boom" date - more threads and more posts that way.

First I find an area for the Middle East and now I find one for 2012. Thank you SO much. It will make it so much easier to find what I am looking for now (instead of having to search every other thread).

Originally posted by Retseh
Somehow I think we will all still be here in 2013.

Yes I agree we will still be here in 2013, just not as we are now. Thats the thing we whont ascend into the clouds with angelic music playing, Im sure we remain on Earth but after all these traumatic events we emerge but at a different spiritual frequency but still in our bodies....I think

mods..
just wondering...

why'd you pick an asteroid hitting earth as an icon for 2012?



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I, for one, look forward to the end of all things man and man-made. If 12/21/12 is the end of days or even just the end of one type of calendar, then just sell me a ticket so I have a good seat for the show. Burn Earth, Burn!!!

Text OrangeTextTextThis is just my idea about it. The aliens are already among us. In the year 2012 their agenda will become overt to the World Intelligence covert oligarchy. The plan established in the year 1947 has been comprised since 1991. Loose lips. So the aliens will stage a "first contact" during the coming global nuclear standoff and seem to bring us an option for peace. Their real aim is to be excepted by us but there will still be more real humans then they can control. In the effort to save ourselves we will lay waste to our world and become extinct. It will all began with a tough choice submit or destroy. For humans its easier to destroy. _javascript:icon('')

***In Search Of***

Does anyone remember the "In Search Of" tv show? Well, I remember one show specifically, and in there they said that the aliens would return on "December 24, 2011 A.D." to gather together their "chosen ones." That is the date they gave, because I remember it specifically, and Leonard Nemoy was the narrator of that program.

~ Lonelypoet

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by Hobbit16
God will end the Earth when it is time. I trust in faith over science. (=

So I'm guessing God built your PC and your ISP is HOL (heaven online)??


You use science more than you will ever use god....

Such ignorant comments=

Haha! thats true blup. But I didn't say I used God more than science, I said I trust him over science. And I just dont believe in the 2012 rubbish.

Heres what I think:

Either,

1. Nothing will happen.

2. The calender will end and nothing will happen.

or

3. We will go into a new cycle. And nothing will happen.

Maya time calendar: 3114 BCE - 2012 AD

a period of 5,126 years or (by my appox calculation) 1,872,271 days....


from what i understand the Maya began the living a chronology of their calendar around 600-700AD..

So, all the prophetic utterings for the 3,700 years (before the calendar became a part-of and a paradigm of the Maya everyday life)
were actually back-loaded...or else were non-relevent prophecies
which were already done & gone...

And we are to believe that the Maya calendar prophecies for the years
600AD to 2012AD are somehow immutable and 100% certain destiny?



i , and others say.... this present Maya long count of 5,126 years concluding in 2012AD,
is but one of five such 'Long-Counts' which make up the longer 'Precession Cycle' which lasts +~ 26,000 years.

Thanks St. Udio, which is why I don't believe in the "End of The World" scenario for 2012, either. People think I am predicting the end of the world with my 2012 theory, but I am not. All I am predicting is the assassination of a world leader, and the beginning of World War III. We have already had two world wars, and they did not end the world, and we have had scores of assassinations throughout time, and they never ended the world, either.

So, again, based on historical facts, and refer to my earlier post in this 2012 forum, all I am predicting is the assassination of a world leader, and the beginning of World War III. I believe that thousands, maybe millions of lives could be lost in that war. In fact, I believe it will put the other two to shame, for that is exactly what the NWO wants, and that is "population control," the getting rid of masses of people so they can more easily control us.

ive been hearing this....the mayans calendar expires 2012,they predict end of the world,how come they diddnt predict their own demise by the spanish?if they knew this wouldnt that have been in the calendar?