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Video games. what am I actually doing?

I play computer games and have for a long time, I have been around when society blamed violent video games for the problems within the disgruntled youth.

I have got a game provider thing called steam, some of you might have heard of it. Its used for counterstrike, fallout, many popular games.

But i decided i wanted to buy something new, and looked for a game which was not centred on killing and destruction. I literally could not find a good title that did not focus on the attacking of others as an integral part of the game story.

I have played world of warcraft seriously, and now occasionally, for a couple of years. this game graphically speaking does not pertain to violence, literally no blood, screams guts etc. But neverthe less. to level up in the game, you have to kill literally hundreds of thousands of animals, humans monsters.

think about that? to level up to the top level you literally kill kill kill. what is this teaching ur mind. those who play the game a lot, there is obviously a subconcious message that to destroy life will benefit you.

then there is the test that for people to kill each other in real life, they used video games to desensitise you, so you can actually shoot someone.

Morally, in a game, like GTA, i would kill shoot steal, etc, but if you can do this so easily in a game, surely it makes it easier to do it in real life. you are having positive associations with a negative act, surely blurring the boundaries a little.

My point is not really that these games are there and that they are bad, they can be very enjoyable, but my point is that its alarming to see that nearly all games produced, involve what would be horrendous acts of violence if committed in real l ife and to look for a game which is just, neutral, like car racing or footbal. these seem to be like 1 in 10. but to get a game about post nuclear war, stabbing ppl, shooting, stealing, is easy, spoilt for choice.

the games like the tv watch shape your emotions and direct your thought energy. upon realising, as i have a few level 70s in wow, that although it seems so tame in wow to kill a "mob", i have killed slaughtered thousands of virtual animals just to rise the ranks.

KILL=SUCESS
KIll better/faster= Ultimate goal of game

what the f?

think about that if you transpose it to life. seriously bad values. seriously bad imprinted thoughts and belief systems on a major imput for society. and who plays games most? well i think probably teenage boys, are a large group. people who shape our society.

i mean yea i play violent video games and are not violent. but i still think what is the difference. karma?

kharma. if in real life i hurt someone steal or lie, or put out bad vibes, i get what i give back. why in a game with virtual charachters when u steal or kill, ur still putting out bad vibes. negative intention to a screen. but its still putting out negative intention. do i produce bad kharma from playing violent games.

i would tend to lean towards yes.

I would appreciate all your comments.

many thanks

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[edit on 11/1/2009 by Mirthful Me]

reply to post by dantrav

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You could say the same thing about little kids playing cowboys and indians or cops and robbers. I remember playing games like that as a kid and I remember that a lot of us fought over who got to be the robbers or the pirates or the outlaws.

reply to post by dantrav

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I truly believe video games and other "stepping on people/killing people is a way to live" media has a very big and horrible impact on our society.

No...It has an impact on those that are weak minded...

Take this thread for example...

reply to post by predisposed

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I think you are finally getting it my friend. And good for you that the games haven't totally brainwashed you into a desensitized borg.

I think those with higher intelligence and a sense of morality are the only ones keeping this world from becoming totally like those kill or be killed games.

reply to post by TH3ON3

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So are you saying that people that play "violent" video games are immoral and possess mediocre intelligence?

That's a little presumptuous of you don't you think? I would ask for some statistics but we all know that those can be bended to the will of the poster. If you are weak minded enough to play a video game and then go out on a killing spree then I think you were probably an unstable individual long before Mario ran across your TV screen.

Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by dantrav

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You could say the same thing about little kids playing cowboys and indians or cops and robbers. I remember playing games like that as a kid and I remember that a lot of us fought over who got to be the robbers or the pirates or the outlaws.

Did blood spill when you played cowboys and Indians? Did you ever actually kill one of your friends in the process? Even though they may have played dead in your mind, did you see your friend disappear after fake shooting them? Finally did any of you play the random prostitute or innocent bystander?

Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by TH3ON3

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So are you saying that people that play "violent" video games are immoral and possess mediocre intelligence?

No...I said people who are more intelligent and have a sense of morality that human life is sacred will eventually wake up from the attempt by the mainstream "entertainment" business to hook those with lesser intelligence for life, thus perpetuating the enormous profits inherent in such.

Originally posted by chapter29
reply to post by dantrav

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No...It has an impact on those that are weak minded...

Take this thread for example...

What defines a weak minded individual? Also to a certain age, people's brains are scientifically proven to be undeveloped and impressionable. Are they simply innocent, weak minded, or something else? Depending on the answer should they play violent video games until hey have fully developed?

I don't believe in censorship at all, i do however feel as though our society is out of control with this dog eat dog bs and it shows through in our entertainment especially in video games.

reply to post by predisposed

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I play video games too, and I do not project negative intention towards the screen.

For one thing, I am completely and utterly aware that nothing I kill "dies." If I defeat a player in PvP, he is resurrected and after my tail again in no time. If I kill an NPC in a short while there they are again. Even the animals pop back up and begin wandering again shortly after their death.

Since reincarnation is a fact in the game world, (and the reincarnated return in the former bodies with their former memories, abilities etc) I am doing no harm and I am very aware of that.

Now for children, who have not yet come to a very concrete understanding that in the game of real life near instant reincarnation with no suffering is NOT a physical law, I think these games could as you say cause some problems. I think one has to have a very good understanding that there are different laws in these different existences before one can be sure playing does not create problems in the game of life.

I also think that ones inherent personality plays a role. There are those in the game who are hostile and mock and bully newer players of their own "team" that they cannot kill. There are those who are incredibly helpful and kind. I think aside from children what you get from a game really depends what you bring to it.

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