We Created Ourselves – A new take on human origins

We Created Ourselves – A new take on human origins

There are myriad different theories concerning man’s origins and how we got to be what we are today.

No one theory really explains the entire process adequately.

Evolution is close, but not complete. Creationism is interesting but highly biased and also not complete. The ancient astronaut may seem far-fetched to some, but offers some interesting evidences and correlations, however it is also not complete.

A new twist on existing theories came to me today and I wanted to share it with you all and get some feedback.

This theory does not touch on how everything in general came to be (big bang ideas and the like) and hence isn’t considered.


QUICK BACKSTORY

Many theories already exist which state that hominoids on Earth evolved to a point up until approx 30,000 – 50,000 years ago. It is said that at this point-in-time something happened to us which greatly altered our destiny – there are so many good ideas on this point alone (DNA change, environment, pure evolution, energetic shifts, etc), but let’s not focus on this.

During this time, amoung other things, the cerebral cortex developed, the brain shrunk and we suddenly began carrying out much more complex tasks and appear to have learnt the skills of civilization.

Michael Tsarion, Lloyd Pye, and many many others support these ideas and their works are easily found with a quick google search.

Such proponents of these ideas suggest that it was at this time that beings from others planets (ETs) landed on Earth and began genetically modifying the beings they found here to create what we today know as ourselves (see The Terra Papers and even the Bible).

Other more spiritual theories suggest that we are light beings (spirits) who chose to have an experience in the third dimension and do so by chosing our parents before birth and entering into this 3D experience to learn lessons and even to evolve the soul/spirit/light body from lifetime to lifetime.

My theory tends to merge these two theories.


WE CREATED OURSELVES

So what if WE are the original ETs who descended to Earth and played Dr God with the most suitable Earth inhabitants to create the perfect vehicle for a 3D experience?

What if the creatures they found here (and even elsewhere) just weren’t suitable and/or the planets weren’t suitable, so the ETs (the original us) came here (the best location?) and created ‘man’ (the perfect 3D vehicle).

What if; once ‘man’ had been created, perfected and deemed suitable; we (the ETs) were able to move our light body/spirit into the ‘man’ being that had just been created and live in these bodies until death, at which point the light body would return to its ‘other’ (possibly immortal?) body as the ET.

This also takes into account the many ideas, often associated with the lost land of Lemuria (google if you want to learn more) which states that, in the beginning, we were more like light bodies living in 3D bodies (shells) and were slowly becoming more 3D than light body. This could be describing the transition period. It also suggests that Lemuria could have been the location of the original civilization of ‘man’. Just a thought.


SITCHIN’S INTERPRETATION

Zacharia Sitchin, made famous by his translation of Sumerian tablets which suggests that ETs (he called the Nephilim and Annunaki) played a major role in the cultural and physical evolution of ‘man’.

He postulates, if I am not mistaken, that the gods created man as slaves to mine gold in their mines, as they required this gold for their home planet.

This theory often falls down because of the argument which states that gold simply must be more abundant elsewhere in the universe.

But what if the word ‘slave’ wasn’t meant in the context for which it is held today. What if it was a ‘body slave’, as in “we don’t own this body but we will use it to have our 3D experience”. The host/body would be considered a slave of sorts to the light body/spirit using it. Sitchin misinterpreted.

Continued in next post....

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A QUICK BIBLE TRANSALTION

A quick look at an interesting passage in the Bible which is listed more as a historical reference than a sacred religious text (FYI, I am not at all religious).

Read these many translations of Genesis 6:4 in the Bible.

from external source bible.cc...

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, as well as later, when the sons of God slept with the daughters of other humans and had children by them. These children were famous long ago.

King James Bible
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

American King James Version
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

American Standard Version
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Bible in Basic English
There were men of great strength and size on the earth in those days; and after that, when the sons of God had connection with the daughters of men, they gave birth to children: these were the great men of old days, the men of great name.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

Darby Bible Translation
In those days were the giants on the earth, and also afterwards, when the sons of God had come in to the daughters of men, and they had borne children to them; these were the heroes, who of old were men of renown.

English Revised Version
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men which were of old, the men of renown.

Webster's Bible Translation
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them: the same became mighty men, who were of old, men of renown.

World English Bible
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Young's Literal Translation
The fallen ones were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when sons of God come in unto daughters of men, and they have borne to them -- they are the heroes, who, from of old, are the men of name.

What if all the references to “having children” and the like were metaphors for actually inhabiting their physical body?

The ETs (us) waited to see if the physical form (‘man’) would work and be appropriate for a 3D experience - it was, so they “entered into” ‘man’ and began the 3D experiment so to speak.


WE ARE OUR GODS

IF this is true, then it means that any culture who has worshipped beings from the sky is merely worshiping the original form of his/herself.

If you worship that which created you (as far as you know) and if we created ourselves (albeit in a different form), then we really are in awe of our original selves, our original ET selves. Which means that cultures, who for millennia have been trying to contact the gods, have been trying to contact themselves.

So it boils down to “God is within” “Look within for the truth” “To change the world you must look within”…. Etc….



So what does everyone think?

Let’s not turn this into a thread debating the many different ideas on our arrival to this point in time (creationism v evolution for example).

Let’s discuss this new idea. I do not know of this theory having been discussed before, but please, point me in the right direction if I have unknowingly touched on the work of others.

I love this theory.
I have always felt that we are complete.
All of the answers are inside.
Just a matter of remembering and revisiting who we are.

Which is why it may be time to dismantle this "system" of false leaders and gods.
And lead ourselves.

Exactly, but it is almost as if most of us are afraid to trust ourselves and lead independently.

I just think this theory makes sense, to me at least.

I always say if it feels true to me then it is (not in an "i know everything" sense, but i think you get me).

I have always felt inside that these two major ideas (light bodies living a 3D experience and man's course being altered by ETs) must in some way be able to cross-over and still make sense, this theory does the job for me

But as i said, my truth may be very different to an others

reply to post by spinkyboo


Excellent point there.

Not a one-liner

Cant say i believe it, but you definitely have sewn it all up very nicely. Its a good 'theory', good work, flagged for your intuitiveness.

First of all Star and Flag!

Second we are the force behind creation, the act of reproduction is the force behind creation. Space Time exists as a fabric from which allows consciousness to create, this has been handed down many generations through evolution and has infinite levels of growth as represented in the mandelbrot set. We are all co-creators our vehicle is consciousness.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

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Of course - i didn't event consider the 'time' aspect in all this - the quantum principles at play.

All life, as we know it, exists ONLY because a 'pulse' of time exists/was created which allows us to even have this experience in the first place.

Who created this time 'pulse'? Perhaps that is the realm of the real 'gods', or the TRUE creative force?

Perhaps the good ol' Mandlebrot Set reflects that this entire process has been occuring since, well, since the 'beginning' and repeats itself. Perhaps one day our physical 3D form will become the 'creators' of yet another version of ourselves?

Has this already happened with true AI?

Edit to add: love the avatar!

[edit on 7-1-2009 by srsen]

Hello hello to EVERYONE !!!

Quite an interesting thread this is.
Well i will not yet express my views on your subject since i cannot complete relate to your idea yet. I am working on it.

In the mean time i would like to offer you some knowledge which i was tempted to posting on a dedicated thread. Anyhow, here it is. I will try to keep it simple, but bear with me for a while.

As my nickname suggests i am Greek and it just so happens for Greek to be within the first spoken and written languages around. Not only an ancient language but indeed a very very very rich one too. Propably the richest.
But in order to grasp this you will need to have a good depth of knowledge in a number of languages for years. Fairly enough you will see the supperiority of the language and the various tools it gives you as soon as you get the initial idea.
However with time you understand better and deeper charachteristics that are not present in other languages. Don t take it personaly English and other languages do just fine. I am objective on this since i speak read and write Greek, German, English as well as a fair understanding of some other languages.
However with a language such as mine which has its roots in the depths of time and stays as close to its original form still existing today there are some things that are immensely complex to invent and cannot be explained how they came to be.
For example most Greek words if not all can be translated into numbers. (i am not a specialist at this but its true) The correlations between words, their derivatives as well those of their sentences and their meanings do also stand in a mathematical translation-equivalent. So the expresion of the
Greek language also forms mathematical expresions.
It seems that even the evolution of the language took this reality into account. (not all the way and not completely today in modern Greek which is still very close to ancient-just simplified...)
I could go on and tell more amazing things about Greek but it may become
Greek to you... lol
So to the point!

So.... we are all human!
What is the etymology of human?
In english i don t know ... hu-man? Maybe you can help me.

In the mean time i will tell you about the word human in Greek or rather to be correct in Hellenic.

Human in Hellenic = Ανθρώπος
HUMAN=ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΣ - CAPITAL LETTERS
human=άνθρωπος - lower case letters

It can be used in its male and female derivative whereas in all the other European languages human describes both a man and a woman by the same word.

The basic route of the word άνθρωπος comes from the word man, male and face, with the firts two having ofcourse masculin origin. It means he who has the face of man. So there you have your first clue to your discussion.

Secondly,

when split in its basic roots the word άνθρωπος becomes άν-θρωπος or even more analeticaly άνω-θρώσκο. this means " i look up " or " he who looks up ".

This second piece of knowledge i just gave you is also used a lot by the church as i looking up to God or Gods in the past.

I hope this was interesting to you and helpful to your discussion.
I also hope i did not tire you with all this detailed explanation and prologue, but it was intended to give you the importance of the meanings, rather than just throwing to you this equals that over here. You will be amazed as to how many Greek words you use daily and their roots in the past their meanings and how they came to be.
So in order to not make my post the "My big fat wedding" movie i will let you go on for now while keeping track of this post.

Good luck!

[edit on 7/1/2009 by GEORGETHEGREEK]

I think our creation was an accident.

If we are the original ETs, then where did we ...come from originally? It explains our creation on Earth but not elsewhere, necessarily.

reply to post by ravenshadow13


very good and simple point!


[edit on 7/1/2009 by GEORGETHEGREEK]

In my theroy

We are self a self replication of the universe .. I dont mean to say we live in a giant human!! but we do live in something alive

Cell theroy baby!!

Its ALIVE... !!! oh btw so are we ; )

Who created this time 'pulse'? Perhaps that is the realm of the real 'gods', or the TRUE creative force?

Alpha and Omega are both intersecting time periods.
Does that answer your question?

Well you are bound to get a reaction did it answer yours?

our prison is our own inablity not to ask questions "dumb ones" at that..

loopy

I need to change my name to drunken yoda

I have no clue about the origins of the 'original ETs', suffice to say, they probably wouldn't know or either... hehe get it

That type of question starts down the path of what is creation, where did anything come from, is there a god, are we an accident, etc etc.

I dont know and will likely never know the answer to that one, at least not in this lifetime anyway

I do think tho that without someone or something providing time as an outlet for life as we know it then there would be nothing. But that is coming from a being who only knows life spent in the space time continuum.

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first. the word WE means you and I and the rest....as in NOW

so no..WE did not create ourselves. if you mean people who shared our current dna and all that...you should say that and NOT use the word WE.

sorry im just so shocked how people use that word..its actually very psychological

"we saved them during WWI" really, YOU were there? wtf

this grand sense of WE is so false and creates a false sense of connectedness that does not exist

Could we also be the result of a failed experiment by Ets and abandoned to our own fate...
Either way it has always seemed to me that humans do not fit in with the rest of nature on this planet

MrJelly,

Good point, but what i mean by we is more our original ancestors i guess. How would a butterfly refer to its original form as a caterpillar?

It's still the same being but has changed its fundamental design. I suppose this is kind of similar. I would still call the 'original ETs' us, but just in a different form.

Afterall, many people (myself included) try to avoid identifying with the physical body and the ego. This is not me, hence it is my inner light body.soul that is really me.

Does that kind of clarify what i meant?


And to Anon,

Yeah i have considered this one myself. There is certainly a case to be made, IMO, to say that we could be an abandonned experiment of some superior race.

It does kind of start falling into the category of referring to such experimenters as gods, but still an interesting thought.



[edit on 9-1-2009 by srsen]