City will pay professional sharpshooters to kill deer herd., page 2
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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 02:45 AM by plumranch



reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 04:33 AM by ignorant_ape
ok - it seems that a bit of an explaination is required , as to the difference between ` a controlled cull - to thin a herd ` and ` open season hunting - a general free for all as hunters try to get the best value for thier licence `

i do not mean this as any insult - as i have engaged in precicely the same activity - but :

hunters are greedy

its only natural - when you are paying for a govt licence that has a bag limit - you go for a prize specemine - either large and plump , for the venison - or with a impressive rack for the trophy wall

OTOH - cullers - who are getting paid to do the job wouldnt dream of shooting the herd alpha buck or a beutiful hind in prime condition

they target the one with mange , the one that limps , the one with a racking cough etc etc

that way - the fittest are left - to survive and thrive - creating a stonger healther herd which will leave prime targets for next seasons hunters and ensure that the fawns born next spring are bred from the healthiest stock - and will find food - because all the " dead weight " has been trimmed from the herd

its that simple , and thats why paid cullers who will follow thier instructions to the letter are employed to thin the herd

because the unfit , desiesed , injured and starving deer they shoot do not make good tropies - and yeild a poor venison harvest [ if they can be used for anything but dog food ]

declaring open season - and letting hunters loose will just make matters worse - as they will not take the animals that NEED culling

like i said - do not take offence anyone - i hunt too - and have also done game keeping work

and unless i am getting paid to conduct estate management - i am always looking for bags i can east / sell - not mangy dead weight


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 04:52 AM by imd12c4funn
reply to post by ignorant_ape



take out the trophies. Allow some doe tags as well. The herd will survive. It will eventually become too large again and a repeated thinning will need to take place.

If you take out the lame ducks, you are asking for a quickening of the heard numbers to increase once again, expediting the need to do it again.

Seasonal hunt has nothing to do with it. may lose a some fawn, but that's another error the State makes depending on when the herd is decreased.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by imd12c4funn]



reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:12 AM by mrsdudara
reply to post by jsobecky



Exactly!! That is something that is not typically understood by people unless they spend a lot of time outdoors. Lyme disease is a real threat, as is a lot of different types of tick borne diseases. I have had quite a few family members fall ill because of this. We take hunting serious not just because it is a tradition, but because it is quite necessary when you are living along side them.


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 10:53 AM by kelbtalfenek
Originally posted by ChilledVoodoo


5000 bucks to kill some deer? This is crazy! I cant belive sharpshooters are going to go in to this very populated community and start shooting rifles around like nutballs! Rifle bullets can travel up to a couple miles, so if they miss who knows what they might hit. Killing Deer for sport is ok with me, to slay them because they chew up your bushes, thats just dumb. Deer were here first and are gods gift to man. We should not Kill and destroy everything that is an inconvineience.

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Wow, that's a really shortsighted interpretation.

Deer are dying from disease, starvation and contact with automobiles...due to overpopulation because we humans thought it would be nice to eliminate the deers natural predators, and when hunters hunt, they kill the biggest, strongest deer. So instead of following some sort of natural order, humans have created a very unnatural order. The weak are breeding. The sick remain with the herd and spread their diseases. Deer attacks, where deer attack humans are also on the rise.

Would you rather an open season within the city limits? Or a few marksmen eliminating deer in as much of a controlled way as possible?


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 12:48 PM by WyrdeOne
reply to post by The Last Man on Earth



I don't think it's a strawman to phrase the argument as "we have to kill them or else they'll die" - I think it's just a humorous/ridiculous re-wording of the argument to poke fun.

Again, I support hunters and I support hunting, it just makes me sad and ashamed when we have to come up with excuses to pacify the PETA crowd. Without hunting and without hunters we wouldn't even be here talking about this.

It shouldn't be relegated to a hobby - it's more than that.


reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 08:51 PM by MrSmith
god damn joke



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