She probaly got tired of risking her neck for what amounts to securing the oil fields over there for the oil industries over here.

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by wayno
So what makes anyone in Iraq your enemy?
Think about it. Just cuz Bush said so?

Nah, I think all that AAA that was being shot at my aircraft was a big hint that someone in Iraq was my enemy.

You know, just saying.

your a bs artist for saying AAA coming from iraq... small arms fire is about the only thing being shot at our aircraft. of course that may be what you meant? but no pilot would call small arms AAA fire...

Totally agree. Things have changed in her life and I do not blame her one bit. She went once, leave her alone now and give her a desk job or doing dishes in the Mess Hall.

Originally posted by MilitieTempliSalmo
ok, shes been there, now they send her again, with a child, to same hell hole and you all expect her to go like its some walk in the park. Shes already been there... shes a woman and a mother, so I'm with her... prison will suit her just fine. She just doesnt want to go to iraq so she wont go either way.

Now considering all the facts, I dont think how can you all be against this woman for trying to stay alive for her family and son.

Why dont some of you offer to go in her place instead of having your fat chicken butts behind the computer how dare you insult someone who has been through an already "probably" awful war experience and judge her like that?

Please, grow a heart.

she's a woman and a mother so you're with her? You wouldn't be with a man in the same situation/??? Why would peope go in her place if they feel she's getting what she deserves? It's not the trying that people are talkinga bout, they respect that. I think if she would've been allowed to stay in Canada people wouldn't have minded much. But she wasn't, and the decision seems fair.

Originally posted by wx4caster
your a bs artist for saying AAA coming from iraq... small arms fire is about the only thing being shot at our aircraft. of course that may be what you meant? but no pilot would call small arms AAA fire...

Oh really? You were there with me in 2003 and I must just be imagining 37MM rounds coming up to my aircraft?

Last time I checked, that wasn't "small arms fire".

Hey, thanks for playing, tho!

I didn't have any enemies in Iraq until the Army issued them to me. I didn't need hate or any other emotion to know that my job was to help neutralize threats by way of my training as ordered by my superiors. That was her job too. What makes her so special that everyone else had to do their jobs, but not her?

I hope they drop the UCMJ on her hard and heavy.

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by muzzleflash


you are aware that its also agianst the rules of the forum to make "Excessive quoting"?

serioulsy im questioning your motives now (deflection?)

You sir have failed once again.

Oh, and if I feel the need to quote you then I will. If the moderators feel that I am in violation then they can deal with it.

I just checked........you are not a moderator.

ok im really serious all you do is deflect and distract, is that what the chart says is your best alternative to get me off topic??

look you said that i was misquoting you, by taking things out of context

and i replied that im not allowed to quote your entire context, as I continually get warned for "Excessive quoting"

and then you turn it around on me unfairly, saying that IM TELLING YOU TO NOT QUOTE EXCESSIVELY????

NO sir you are deflecting and distracting, I clearly was talking about myself quoting you not about you quoting me

and then you said I fail, but your the one who consistantly had either
1) a reading comprehension disability
2) or intentionally trying to discredit me, and distract others from the original argument about the legitimacy of a contract that effectively signs a humans life over as Property

you may be able to fool other people
but you will never fool me because i know how you guys operate and its not gonna ever phase me

Originally posted by jd140

I give up.

The military is a modern day slavery buisness.

I'm glad you think that as soldiers we deserve everything without giving back........................wait thats welfare. Oh well, we should get all of these things and choose when we should serve and when we want to quit.

Sir, respectfully I believe your missing the point.

The point is that you give your life for your nation in the military, but the government treats the soldiers like garbage. I was taking up for the soldiers suggesting the Govt was wrong to treat them like slaves, And you defended their right to crap on soldiers all they want.

I am pro-soldier and anti-govt
Maybe im wrong but you were coming off anti-soldier and pro-govt

you cannot be both at the same time
(unless the govt starts treating soldiers like human beings)

either you support the rights of soldiers to be treated with respect and dignity , or you dont

and putting someone in the Brig for 3-5years over telling the govt to screw off is a very disrespectful thing(for the govt), and i support the soldiers right to tell them to shove it (as i respect all US military personell as long as they dont spread disinfo on forums lol)

if you dont support a the soldiers right to a human life, than you clearly support the governments right to own them as slaves

And yes if the military allowed me to come fight for a month, and go home whenever i pleased? YES I WOULD COME PITCH IN FOR A BIT
But since the military would not let me leave on my own will/behalf, I cannot join the military because they are not giving me a fair bargin

I want my freedom If im gonna fight for this god forsaken nation.
I refuse to GIVE UP that freedom just to fight for it??
That doesnt make any sense!

Why would I fight for freedom if they dont even allow me to ever have freedom agian?
See thats why that contract is illegitimate IMO

Hopefully now you better understand my POV on this, maybe It was my fault for not articulating myself more clearly

[edit on 9-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

Originally posted by SFwife


For all the misinformation out there MILITARY GETS PAID CRAP for the job they do ..
[edit on 8-1-2009 by SFwife]

exactly, so why do they keep spreading misinfo when the pay is such crap?

oh ya i forgot, cuz they believe they are slaves...

ok it makes sense now

and saying someone deserves to be shot (a fellow american) to me is treason and you should recieve court-martial for wanting the death of american soldiers who put their life on the line in iraq

if they do 1 tour thats enough to earn my respect and a get out of jail free card

Originally posted by desertdreamer


I just found one of these comments comical.....paid well???? The people that are defending this country get paid very poorly, and IMHO should get paid a heck of alot more for what they do. All those extras that you are talking about all come at a price.

I agree 100%, US Soldiers should get paid at LEAST 1 million dollars per year IMO.
They dont need a contract to keep men and women fighting for them in that event.

And cut the pay of all the politicians and cut the bail outs to raise the cash for it (or just ask the FED to print more )

[edit on 9-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

Originally posted by SFwife

They get treated like crap in a country they would and do die for .
I have personally been through a lot in the past 7 yrs .I have seen many ppl I love die .My husband could die .

[edit on 8-1-2009 by SFwife]

yes they do get treated like crap by people just like you

you said she should be shot and then laughed about it

so if your hubby died, would you still be laughing it up??

Originally posted by wx4caster

i challenge every one of you people who haev made statements judging this woman for what she has done to go down to the local recruitment and sign up. go do 4 years (although the minimum enlistment is 8... most people dont realize that. when you sign for 4 you gotta do an additional 4 in teh IAR). and see just how you feel about putting yourself in that situation.

despite your good earlier posts i think this excuse is utter crap

she(sfwife) was screaming for the woman to be shot (the one in the OP)

she wanted that mother dead, for disagreeing with the system

Shot Dead.

its shameful and ignorant to want anyone shot for such a minor infraction

anyways why are the soldiers begging for this woman to be executed, in the meanwhile osama bin laden remains at large, as we desire to execute our own soldiers for stupid disagreements....

man the military sounds great!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

Im am not for the war/conflict, whatever you want to call it.
What I AM for however, is removing a tyrant and giving the Iraqi people a chance to live without fear of their government.

As for the woman, I respect her wanting to be with her family but I cannot say much about her decision she made. There are ways to get out of a deployment rather than skipping the country. Does anybody know whether or not she had a discussion with her commander about her feelings? Honestly its people like that that get people killed because they cannot handle the combat stress. Besides, her going to Canada and having a child; isnt that how illegal aliens get U.S. citizenship anyway? Who can condone that?

I also joined the military when I was 17 FULLY aware of what I was getting myself into. I think the mistakes are made when less mature 17 year olds (for example only) think its "cool" to join something like the military without prior research. I happen to know somebody who did join the military based on the "cool" factor and hes kicking himself in the arse everyday.

So as far as 18 year olds not possibly knowing what they are getting theirselves into? Give me a break. As a matter of fact, I have never watched MTV in my life.

God be with her and all our hero's in arms serving our country.

[Edit] Sfwife: For me, tell your husband thank you for his service.

[edit on 9-1-2009 by ps1klon3]