Perrsonly I thnk that either there is no NWO or It has already been defeated. I beleive NWO was Germany after world war one.If one was looking for a NWO group would Be a cult and try to takeover the world.This group may also deploy secret weopons. This group was the Nazis, they match the description. The Nazis were a cult beleiving in the aryan master race, they did try to take over the world, and there secret weopons programs which included space flight and dirty bombs were near completion at the end of the war. Another canidate would be the USSR. Although no cult is clearly present they did atempt to take over the world by communism and developed many secret weopons still classified.The final canidate is the United states.I'm not going to start crying like a liberal about how imperlist we are but we do match the description. There are many cults that have political seats, the first george bush was in the Skull and Bones Cult. We have added some huge territory once in a while like invading mexico, invading canada, invading indian territory, and annexation of islands and alaska. We also appear to have many secret weopns. Programs like aurora and agencies like darpa develop secret weopons that will probably only be deployed in National defense emergencies.Excuse my spelling

About a NWO, the first thing you have to ask yourself is, what group first came up with this idea, and for what reasons?

Did the US exist when this group created this idea of a New World Order?

From what part/parts of the world are these group of people from?

I hear a lot of people blaming everything on Bush and "any" american administration, because most of them have been, and still are members of some of these groups.

But are all members of these groups aware of "everything" that happens in the higher ranks?

I think that Bush and any public form of government in our world are just very small players on what its really happening.

We have been given some "scapegoats" to take our eyes from the real problem, the source of the problems.

the nwo wasnt defeated, they are winning a war with some defectors that didnt like their cut and what it was doing to their country.

The idea of the NWO is generally considered to be globalisation, one world government, and turning continents into corporations. Doesn't sound like communism.

The USSR never attempted to take over the world, although it occupied most of Eastern Europe and Eurasia.

Personally I don't believe in the "NWO", or that one world government is possible. What form do you think a New World Order would take? And what makes you think there is only one shadowy organisation which is a potential NWO? I think if it there was an initiation of a single global government, it could come in any form.

honestly I don't think NWO ever existed.I think It was made up by bored people on the internet talking about martial law and Hitler. If there will ever be a world goverment it will be through the U.N or maybe a united Europe. This brings up the subject is multi nation unification possable? We will see how the EU does.

honestly I don't think NWO ever existed.I think It was made up by bored people on the internet talking about martial law and Hitler. If there will ever be a world goverment it will be through the U.N or maybe a united Europe. This brings up the subject is multi nation unification possable? We will see how the EU does.

So i guess Reagan never talked about a NWO, I think Clinton mentioned this once too. Or Bush didn't hint about a "shadow government."

I seriously doubt that they (whatever group) thinks of themselves as the dreaded NWO. They are probably just an organization or possibly several that have certain plans on aquiring as much power and money as possible.

Here is a funny thought. What if there are different NWO type groups fighting each other for that power?

Communism is also a part of what is going on, and there are communist countries in South America and central America.

The idea of communism/socialism is for the government to handle everything, even private properties of individuals.

I also posted this on the regular NWO forum and banshee put it in the trash. Please explain or help.

Jonna, I agree with you and I think that is part of what is going on.

I think there are two, or more, big groups which want one or another form of a NWO.

What better way for a NWO to slip in unnnoticed when all the fault is being dumped on a scapegoat and everyone's attention is focused on someone else?

Am i saying that Bush has done everything right? no, I disagree with some of the things he has done and some of his views. i do agree with his view about terrorism, but it is also true that terrorism is not the "only reason" why we went to Iraq.

most big organisations fit the description.and i think the idea of there being lots of NWOs fighting for power is interesting.could be true as well.just look at world events and see if they fit in.but then again its not good practice to jump at any shadow and label it a threat.i havent seen any proof for an NWO.all ive seen is chit chat about it.if you do have info give me it in a U2U and ill gladly change my ways.but as it stands how can the NWO be defeated?everyone dreams of power over all.how do you fight an idea?


also muaddib.he he like the name.kangaroo-mouse in fremen mythology right?he who points the way.

[Edited on 8-4-2004 by AlphaOfTheOmega]

Originally posted by bushfriend
I also posted this on the regular NWO forum and banshee put it in the trash. Please explain or help.

From now on, when you have a question about a thread move, use U2Us to ask.

You posted two identical topics in two different forums.
Not allowed to do that. Waste of bandwidth and clutters the forums. You've been here plenty long enough to know that.

This is not a RATS post, so your original post was placed in the proper forum.

-B.

bushfriend, i think it's very foolish to say that a few bored people came up with the idea of the nwo on the internet...this notion has been around probably long before since you were born .

Cloud, there have always been myths and conspicicies and with disinformation and conspiricies speculation occurs. And speculation lead to the Idea of New World order.The internet has only lead to more disinfromation and conspiricy.

honestly I don't think NWO ever existed.I think It was made up by bored people on the internet talking about martial law and Hitler.

bushfriend

the only point i was trying to get across is that the idea for the nwo has probably been around since before al gore "invented" the internet, and you had actually stated that you thought that the nwo was given birth by a few folks on the net .

People always talk about the NWO order as this horrible thing. Could a one world goverment be a good thing? I guess it would have alot to do with the people that formed such a goverment. But if really good people wanted a one world goverment for the good of mankind could this not be a good thing for are planet.

i agree with ShadowXIX a one goverment world has alot of advantages, mostly peace and ecnomic balance. It would take hundreds of years to implement and should start with a weak earth confederation, then standerdized money, then launguage

It depends

I think a NWO could be very good or very bad

Very good = Controled economics and a lot less wars + unity

Very Bad = If they start abusing their power and no 1 can stand up to them

i highly doubt that "good" people would reign over the nwo.