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ufo skeptics - im calling you out!!


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Topic started on 7-1-2009 @ 12:08 PM by elliotuk90


sorry if im going to sound really harsh here but this has to be said,
i dont care what skeptics think anymore, Yes you heard correctly, i dont care what ignorant people who like to call themselves skeptics think.

You see ive experienced first hand contact. well i wouldnt call it abduction because it was nothing painful or agressive, however i have had physical contact both consciously and sub consciously with beings from other dimensions.

I regularly see flying discs, orbs and lights which are NOT PLANES, NOT HELICOPTERS AND NOT SWAMP GAS! For me i see them so frequently its not even a big deal anymore.

So yes i have my first hand proof and knowledge that they exist.

And for mr `cgi! fake! swamp gas! balloon! model! it looks like a bird!` ignoramus.....

Look around you, your bubble of ignorance is falling around you.

There is documented evidence both passed down by word of mouth and ancient carvings of ufos.
There are hundreds of thousands of cases, (and thats even if you filter out the hoaxes).. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GENUINE CASES... verified, sometimes witnessed by masses, sometimes confirmed by senators doctors lawyers ex goverment officials, military personnel

the list goes on.

Theres the photos, clear as day,
the videos...

Yet what do you do? you sit there on your little keyboards going `plane, cgi bird`!

WAKE UP!

How do you think mankind achieved nothing besides horses and carts and pots and pans viritually for hundreds of thousands of years, and then in the space of 100 years magically came up with computers planes, lasers, rockets etc etc etc

Do you think we evolved from the more or less knowledge of a caveman to what we are today just like that?

Isnt it obvious something, either manipulated our way of thinking to put those things in our mind or GAVE US THE TECHNOLOGY????????

There is scientific proof of lots more out there than the eye can see
Proof? the human naked eye can identify only approx 70 colours...

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF COLOURS OUT THERE, AND THATS JUST AN ESTIMIATION!!

So before you insult the intelligence of the probably millions who are begging and begging our world leaders to end the embargo on the truth..........

Why dont you understand that the game is over... the days of `photoshop.. bird... plane... swamp gas` are OVER!

ps
just for the sake of it
here is a video of an entire section of the U.S army firing thousands upon thousands of rounds at a ufo in 1945 it had NO EFFECT....


YouTube Link


what more proof do you need



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 12:25 PM by LordThumbs


you've changed your tune havent you

RELAX man/woman (not sure).. the ignoramus as you call them, they pound on the keys, but that doesnt mean they are influencing anybody. in my experience here 95% of the members already have their minds made up.

we have other contactee members as well who havent really been so abrasive. may want to tone it down a bit. just a friendly suggestion.

if you could, id like to see some drawings from your contact experience. just snipits of memory would be nice.
its up to you, peace. and thanks for sharing the battle of LA thats a favorite for many people here.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 12:29 PM by IAttackPeople


Happy New Year, weneedtoknow.

How any skeptic-baiting threads are you going to start today? How long before you wish all the skeptics dead and get banned again?



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 12:31 PM by Xcalibur254


Why do you keep posting these topics when you haven't listened to us yet? Nowhere have we said UFOs don't exist, in fact that would be against the precepts of skepticism to do so. However, there is no proof that these are alien crafts. There are plenty of possibilities that are just as likely if not more as to what these can be. Furthermore, you seem to diminish the capabilities of humanity. We didn't just move from the stone age to the nuclear age just like that. One can very clearly trace the course of technology up to what we have today. Finally, your video just shows a photograph with effects added over it so it looks like shots are being fired. Channels like the History Channel do it all the time. To my knowledge there was only one photo taken of The Battle of LA, the one in the video.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 12:52 PM by SaviorComplex


Originally posted by IAttackPeople
Happy New Year, weneedtoknow.



I thought this post sounded familiar.

In fact, it uses much of the same phrases as this post from about two months ago...

You see ive experienced first hand contact. well i wouldnt call it abduction because it was nothing painful or agressive, however i have had physical contact both consciously and sub consciously with beings from other dimensions

And for mr `cgi! fake! swamp gas! balloon! model! it looks like a bird!` ignoramus...

Look around you, your bubble of ignorance is falling around you.


But...wow...did we ever get served. The only response to this would be to slide across the floor on our foreheads.

[edit on 7-1-2009 by SaviorComplex]



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 01:02 PM by ziggystar60


Originally posted by elliotuk90

I regularly see flying discs, orbs and lights which are NOT PLANES, NOT HELICOPTERS AND NOT SWAMP GAS! For me i see them so frequently its not even a big deal anymore.




So why don't you take some photos and show them to us?



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 01:10 PM by TH3ON3


Originally posted by ziggystar60
Originally posted by elliotuk90

I regularly see flying discs, orbs and lights which are NOT PLANES, NOT HELICOPTERS AND NOT SWAMP GAS! For me i see them so frequently its not even a big deal anymore.




So why don't you take some photos and show them to us?



He knows, I know, you don't. So who cares what you see or think? We don't need validation from you or anyone else...capiche!



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 01:16 PM by pieman


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so if you don't need validation, why shout about skepticism?



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 01:17 PM by ziggystar60


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With all due respect, you have absolutely no idea what I know or don't know.

You see, you don't know ME at all.




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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 02:51 PM by TH3ON3


Originally posted by ziggystar60
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With all due respect, you have absolutely no idea what I know or don't know.

You see, you don't know ME at all.




That was called a generalization. You have been generalized.

Thank you sir may I have another....



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 02:53 PM by SaviorComplex


Originally posted by TH3ON3
He knows, I know, you don't. So who cares what you see or think? We don't need validation from you or anyone else...capiche!


Then why are you here in the first place? If you know, then why are you so worried about what skeptics think? Skeptics are not stopping you from believing whatever you want.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 02:54 PM by KIRKSTERUK


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Keep taking your pills elliot.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:00 PM by converge


Can we stop this stupid and unproductive bickering between 'believers' and 'skeptics'?

True believers don't matter and pseudoskeptics don't matter. These people, on either camp, won't change their minds no matter the evidence or lack of. Let's ignore them already.

And let's get back at the real issues.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:06 PM by Clearskies


I've seen a few ufos and they looked like digital holograms.
They even flickered and changed size, like it was low budget!
Can satellites project images? I think so.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:10 PM by converge


Originally posted by Hank Scorpio
theres no such thing as believing in ufos. UFOs exist. end of this particular discussion, onto the next.


And where did I claim otherwise? If you would read some of my posts you would find that I contest the exact same thing you are saying, that UFOs are not a matter of belief.

When I say true believers I'm referring to those who believe the explanation is aliens, cryptoterrestrials, inter-dimensional beings, or simply man made black projects without any supporting evidence.



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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 05:06 PM by TH3ON3


Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Originally posted by TH3ON3
He knows, I know, you don't. So who cares what you see or think? We don't need validation from you or anyone else...capiche!


Then why are you here in the first place? If you know, then why are you so worried about what skeptics think? Skeptics are not stopping you from believing whatever you want.


I was merely pointing out the fact that I and the OP have no need to show anyone anything.

We know they exist, and they seem to be intelligently controlled, and some are possibly even living entities themselves.
A biological living machine capable of breaking the known laws of physics. I wonder who could design such a living machine....God?...Yes!

And just who is God and where did He come from? And why create the most advanced living thinking biological computer ever designed (you & I) and then leave us to try and find out all these scientific answers for ourselves. Fascinating stuff to ponder while perusing ATS.

Then again, you & I just may be well loved pets living in a glass dome. That is if you can think on such a minuscule scale while looking through your Hubble telescope.

You know, the most awesome science fiction story ever is based on a true story....that story...real life.

But I'm here mainly for the other news that never seems to hit the mainstream, you know like 9ft Bigfoot found in freezer...



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