Protester Calls for Jews to 'Go Back to the Oven' at Anti-Israel Demonstration

Last post to you on this. I'm busy doing a lot of other things. If this is really that important to you then why don't you do the research and provide proof that there are no members here that say "what I've alleged"?

Otherwise, you are just sounding like a broken record.

I posted the articles that the thread was based on, no other "proof" is required here to initiate a thread.

If stellarx is who you look up to here as a role model, then simply

You've not read any of my threads ...

Centurion, you made the statement that people here on ATS say the Jews should be stuffed into ovens so as you are calling people out it is for you to post those proofs, rather than lying and being dishonest about it why not just come clean and say that no one here on ATS has said anything like that at all.

Whilst they may be many here who do not accept the actions of the Israelis it is not for you to lie about what others have not said giving the impression that they have. And the mere fact that you have no proofs just proves that you are indeed a liar.

well ,well seems like centurion is burning
actually , i have read your threads, and in none you make intelligent posts
you provided no proof of hate for jews from sane posters (not neo-nazi ATSer)

where have ppl on ATS called for exterminating jews.....
how are israel hate=jew hate?
Israel is doing what Nazi germany use to do ....
P>S to members
apparently , manson-322 and stellarx have both ripped him to shreds several times


your 'proof' is fox news

fox news is not credible , its the worst news channel and supports israeli war crimes and israeli apartheid against palestinians too

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by sadchild01]

---

---

reply to post by sadchild01

---

For the last time with you, and I'll try and take it slow for you since you have not understood my previous posts, I never have said that criticizing the state of Israel for its actions was anti-Semitic.

On the contrary, I have repeatedly stated that anti-Semitism starts when it ceases to be a criticism of the state of Israel and starts being one of the Jews as a religion or a people.

Examples to try and help you understand even further:

Statement A: "Israel is bad because they are attacking Gaza." does not equal anti-Semitism.

Statement B: "The Jews are bad because they are attacking Gaza." does equal anti-Semitism.

Now, that is absolutely as simple as it can be explained. Try practicing by applying the above standards against the various posts and you will be able to see the difference.



[edit on 1/9/2009 by centurion1211]

reply to post by centurion1211

---

Interesting, this is a thread about racism towards Jews. Well I couldn't care less about racism towards Jews, there are more important topics around currently like, Jews murdering people.

For future reference, order of importance goes like this

Murder > Racism.

There you go ...

You said "Jews murdering people ...", which = anti-Semitism because clearly all members of that religion are not murdering anyone.

You could have said "Israelis murdering people ...", and avoided the label.

The fact this is so hard for some to understand what is a very simple concept, I believe shows how deeply these anti-Semitic feelings are buried in some people's consciousness.

reply to post by centurion1211

---

You're right, I said Jews very much on purpose, saying Israelis is beating around the bush, and just doing so as to avoid being labelled as racist. And I could care less since the entire paternal side of my family are Jews.

This is just basically how it is, there is no need to dance around the fact, this military action is not from a normal multicultural country, it is from a political system and defense force which is almost entirely represented by Jews, in the same way that terrorist organzations are almost entirely represented by Muslims.

reply to post by Lazyninja

---

A self-hating Jew...nothing new to see here folks.

reply to post by Founding

---

No in fact I don't hate myself, nor any religious group or political system. What I hate is violence and intolerance, and it amazes me that both Jew and Muslim alike, who both claim to follow peaceful religions are capable of such stupidity and barbarism.


[edit on 9-1-2009 by Lazyninja]

Anti semitic is a nice word dreamed up by America basically to shut anyone up who says anthing about Israel or the people of the Jewish faith. Its is used time and time again to silence those who speak out against the corrupt regime and its supporters.

Example, its Ok for a Rabbi to state I million Arabs arent worth the fingernail of 1 Jew.

But on the other hand if a Muslim Cleric said the same, he is anti Jewish Anti Semitic and a terrorist and Jihad supporter.

This is the position we are now in with the Zionist/Jew Mafioso. they can say and do what they like but anyone else saying anything back is anti Jew/anti Semitic.

The rot has got so bad now that laws have been passed in many countries where it is illegal to say anything negative about the Holocaust, WHY, are the Zionists scared that we will find out that they were behind it all.

This newspeak is all over the press now, the Palestinians are terrorists, savages, subhuman etc. that is the normal language here on ATS and in the mainstream media.

The Isrealis of course are the injured party, the innocents, the victims etc. they have a whole battery of supporters many who are not even Isrealis or Jewish but the corruption goes so deep and the mind control goes so far that peopleare either to scared to speak out or get the usual anti Jew crap.

Its an interesting parallel here on ATS when you have members usually American gleefully shouting the Muslims down, labelling them all as terrorists and all the rest of it yet the minute Israel or the Jews come into the equation the pro Israeli flags start flying from these members.

yes all in all its quite an oustanding pice of hypocrisy, come here slag ofMuslims but don;t you dare say anthing about the Jews or Israel, thats when the thought police hit the dirt and start calling you names.

The simple facts are that whilst there are those that use hate and ignorance to fuel their agenda we will always have war and mayhem. that is the stock in trade of these people, the rich and the powerful use race, religion and colour to have us all fighting all the time and while we die they get richer and richer. A poor man figthing in a war never gets rich a richman fueling a war does. Its gone on for centuries and thats the worst part of all this. That although we know the real truth we just don't do anything about it.

Bravo to the war mongering fanatical christian/ zionists in here playing the race card when they themselves have marked all the cards and kept another deck up their shirt sleeves

on topic-Thats a pretty disgusting thing to say when they shouted(go back to the ovens)The jewish people went through hell and back during the WW2.The suffering inflicted went across many generations but those memories seem lost in todays generation with Palastine.
The Zionists have tarnished jews and Israel,they cant be that dumb not to know the possible outcome?Surely they dont want the last war to bring end of days and the return of Jesus!lol
Perhaps they are indeed that deluded!

anyway,anyone who chants back to the oven is an idiot

we need more hugs around the world

reply to post by centurion1211

---

we might not agree on a number of issues - but im stunned - your the last person i expected to have to defend themselves on the bollocks thats thrown out of the pram every 5 minutes called `anti-semitism` - your nothing like that


so people PLEASE get a grip - the situation in gaza has the world on an edge - since neither israel nor hamas give a # what we think , lets not throw out silly ass labels for the hell of it.

critise Israel for what they do - the leaders of israel do not want you to seperate religion and politics but to talk about things properly you must.


look at Israel in the cold harsh light of day and see the regime and what they stand fo - and take out the equation they are religious.

edit:

everyone has the `friend ` and `foe` buttons - well centurion - a long time ago pressed FOE for me , and its damn true




its not a label meaning yo outright hate someone - its someone wo has an opposite viewpoint of yours , and usually you can fight/argue and debate with them.


but right now - centurion is not an anti-semite so quite that crap.

[edit on 9/1/09 by Harlequin]

reply to post by Harlequin

---

Why thank you Harlequin.

Interesting that you'd say that in a way because I had just used almost those exact words in a U2U to magicmushroom where I was attempting to get him to find something to agree about rather than continue to use the hateful speech against me and other members. And also, I've been rethinking the foe labels I set for some folks awhile ago and, as you'll see, switch them to "sharp friend" instead. Why? Because as we've seen, even the sharpest disagreement on one subject can give way to agreement on another. Gamergal is another example of that for me.

So, thanks again and carry on!

clearly, you attempt to equate and similiaiarize , jewish and israeli hate ,




palestinain arabs are semitic too , so you are also anti-semite , check the hebrew encyclopedia ,

even israel is anti-semitic too

hamas was created by mossad , even Ron paul admits that
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 10-1-2009 by sadchild01]

[edit on 10-1-2009 by sadchild01]

Chill, folks.

It's time to remember the motto 'the ball, not the player'.

Stay on topic and forget about personal observations on fellow members, please.

Again the bigger picture that is being palyed out here is that the perps who are in control use, race, religion and nationality to provoke war and murder and it works every time. The Human savage is too stupid to realise this thats why wee are always fighting and killing each other.

Race, Religion and Nationality are nothing more than th weapons that the parasites use to further their agenda. Its the easiest way to start a conflict and one that will go on for decades. This is the role of the Zionists and their supporters. They ferment racial hatred and religeous hatred, back and support all sides and then step back to watch the fun.

if humans have 1 thing in common it is that we all want to live in peace in safety and security without want or war. The parasites know this so they control all that an individual needs. Take those away and you have conflict, never ending conflict.

Most humans are just to dumb to realise this, they lack the vision and inteligence to realsie what is going on to see the bigger picture. But the real issues is that people have the means and power to see it but they just prefer to be controlled as it makes for an easy life. When one sees the bigger picture then will one bring about change.


The Zionists sacrificied the Jews of Europe to form the state of Israel just as thsoe on 9/11 were sacrificed on 9/11 to invade Iraq. More soon will be sacrificed for more war. This system is used over and over agin yet people are to narrow minded to see it, they allow thmselves to be hoodwinked into believeing everythings OK when its not.

Remove the barriers that seperate us all then there will be no war, wiithout nationality, religion, race and want there would be no reason for it. So the whjeel continues to turn, a never ending diatribe of hate ignorance and fear. With have it in us to achieve great things but we also have it within us to destroy ourselves, going off past history we are doomed to our own destruction.

Maybe thats all we deserve, for all our alleged inteligence we are nothing more than well dressed savages and as such we constrict our own developement with our ignorance and hate.

saw aomething interesting yesterday actually - how the hungarion jews where ignored by the representatives going to paletine - they even arrested the hungarion envoy sent to plead for help!

thats nearly 1 million hungarion jews , disgared by those who formed israel.

reply to post by centurion1211

---

"Statement A: "Israel is bad because they are attacking Gaza." does not equal anti-Semitism.

Statement B: "The Jews are bad because they are attacking Gaza." does equal anti-Semitism. "

And to further confuse matters with purposeful ambiguity, Israel like to call itself a 'Jewish Nation'.... But don't you DARE call Israel Jewish nation or YOU are an Anti Semite....

Clever of them.