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Black Holes Preceded Galaxies, Discovery Suggests

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posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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Black Holes Preceded Galaxies, Discovery Suggests


www.space.com

LONG BEACH, Calif. — Astronomers may have solved a cosmic chicken-and-the-egg problem: Which came first — galaxies or the supermassive black holes in their cores?

For several years now, researchers have known that galaxies and black holes must have co-evolved, with budding galaxies feeding material to a growing black hole while the immense gravity of the black hole generated in its vicinity tremendous radiation that in turn powered star formation. But the scientists hadn't pegged the starting point
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posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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This is very interseting to me, I always assumed that three was no way the Black Hole came first just because they are so destructive.

So if the Black Holes came first I guess the next question I have is what caused the Black Holes? Also if the Black Hole came first can you imagine the amount of energy and mass the Black Hole has eaten and how large galaxies could be?

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posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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Thanks for posting this for the community. This announcement raises a question: if Black holes require the gravitational collapse of massive stars, and if massive stars are only (I'm not sure if this is the case, so please correct me if I'm wrong) found/formed in galaxies, then how can a Black hole exist prior to the formation of galaxies?

I remember listening to a BBC Radio 4 program that discussed the same issue. The cosmologist wasn’t sure which came first – the Black hole or the galaxies. And he pointed out the conundrum that I mention above. That’s the only reason that I’m aware of it, after all. I’ll see if I can find it.

Thanks

Edit - Yes, here it is. It was an astronomer named John Gribbin, rather than a cosmologist, who elucidated the mystery of the formation of the first Black holes.

Black Hole Problem

Cheers



[edit on 7/1/09 by The Quiet Earth]

[edit on 7/1/09 by The Quiet Earth]



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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stars would have existed prior to galaxies,galaxies are but organised systems of stars,the supermassiveblack hole being the cog of this organisation.

the first stars would have been hyperstars whos lives were very short and thus any black holes would have formed within 10 million years or so of the first stars creation.
the black holes of these hyperstars would have collided and merged to eventually form the supermassive black holes at the centre of all galaxies.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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I found this to be very curious and interesting.

I started a thread about this yesterday but perhaps I posted it in the wrong forum.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by jwstarry
So if the Black Holes came first I guess the next question I have is what caused the Black Holes?


Don't know for sure as I'm not qualified to answer that question but I'll have a go..

IMO.. Black holes were produced during the period of inflation after the Big Bang, much like the way physicists expect tiny black holes from the Large Collider.
As we know particles gain mass as they travel near the speed of light so maybe this is the origins of the first Black Holes.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Which came first:

1) The Big Bang and Black Holes?

2) Arrogant, delusional, brainwashed technicians that call themselves scientists and continue to claim they are knowledgeable about an unrealistic, falsely propped-up paradigm which in reality has been disproven?






Answer: 2



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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The super-massive black holes probably did come first, even Stephen Hawking now says that black holes "emit information."

Black holes are said to be some sort of portal that connects this Universe to the "creator."







 
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