Originally posted by KIRKSTERUK
Anyone who posts about "skeptikz post here lolz" is mentally challenged. Threads like this insinuate that if someone debunks a UFO photo, they are instantly labelled as a "skeptic" and are therefore subject to flaming and childish insults.

So why don't you zealots give it a rest?

So your reply to a stereotype is to stereotype?

Not everyone who believes there's something more to UFOs than misidentifications, known phenomena and man-made aircraft are zealots.

Thank you for your valuable input.

I went to YouTube and put, 'ufo america first contact' in search, and they show a trailer. It's chock -full- of computer'animation ufos. Has anyone besides me, noticed, that whenever a ufo TV series animates someone's reported sighting, it looks like, "WOW, right out of 'Independence Day!" Only thing missing, is Will Smith!

Originally posted by elliotuk90
What do you think these crafts are?

Well, I'm not entirely sure they can be classified as "crafts" until somebody actually pops one open and everybody sees that they are a vehicle or probe of some sort. Until then, we can only really say they are some kind of "thing."

Anyway, short answer: I don't know.

Longer answer: Things flying around in the air is only a tiny fraction of the total "UFO experience." The actual experience includes an incredibly wide assortment of other phenomena, including stuff that is simply downright baffling and unexplainable. Time distortion or "displacement," stuff fading in and out of reality, psychic stuff, etc. Or the odd way several different responsible people can witness the same thing but come up with widely varied descriptions, as if they're all seeing something different. That's a puzzler.

People have a tendency to focus on the stuff like flying saucers because it's easier for them to put them into some kind of intellectual context they can deal with. "Alien spaceships" is probably the least imaginative of all the possible answers to this stuff.

One huge clue to the phenomenon is the continuing lack of good, solid proof (of anything) in spite of the huge volume of credible witnesses, radar tracks, and occasional physical trace evidence. What would cause this?

After pondering this for a couple of decades, I, and a number of other folks here, suspect that it all might be related to some unknown and subtle aspect of reality and the way we perceive it. The way we understand space and time is very limited. So these UFO things -- along with various ghosts and monsters and angels and aliens other stuff -- could possibly represent some kind of shift in reality or perception. A "shadow" of something from the future, or a different reality. A manifestation of our own consciousness brought into semi-reality in some way. A glimpse of a dream cooked up subconsciously by a lot of people. Or the consciousness of some super entity we're incapable of comprehending.

Not they they're illusions or pure hallucinations. More like... not quite entirely real as we understand reality, or transiently real. Physically real, but only for a few moments.

But this is extremely difficult to test and prove. We don't really even have good words to use to try and describe it. The best we can do is use a lot of fuzzy words cribbed from metaphysics. And because of this, we're having a hard time functionalizing our study of this stuff.

And, therefore, the best answer we have is: "I don't know."

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UFOs or saucers or Tesla craft have been owned and operated by
the Illuminati since 1945.

I'm sure Rockefeller or the likes can tell you but they are also
funding Alien tails so good luck on that one.

In fact I see the Alien Tails as a good source of development revenue.

Apparently the poster was really what many people thought, a previously banned member.

I say this because he was banned, and while his posts were more provocative than it should be expected, that would have not been a reason for a ban, while having been previously banned is.

I think we can forget about this thread going anywhere...