How many times do I have to repeat myself? .... Hollywood is pulling the ultimate mind trick on you., page 8
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:05 PM by ravenshadow13
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
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post by NuclearPaul



I understand how Hollywood contributes to the "dumming down" of the nation in a general way, but I am relunctant to believe the director of fight club had those motives in mind- I could be wrong, but I don't think the average American understands a masonic ladder or symbols such as those....


Right, but, a lot of people here on ATS do... and I think maybe more of the general population of America does. Maybe not a masonic ladder but they do know the symbol of the eye of providence, and a slew of religious symbols, and even symbols relating to a chalice. *shrug* I think they recognize more than you think they do.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:06 PM by nsaeyes
reply to post by NoMoreTyranny




the show "24" is NOT made by the government, it is not written by the government, it is not financed by the government, it is not edited by the government...it is written by a whole staff of writers who sit in a room all day for 14-16 hours and comb through websites like this for political and conspiratorial ideas they can expound on. They make it as realistic and as plausible as possible so you will say things like,, "Wow, what if that really happened" or "that kind of stuff is happening right now" or "man, I knew that was true...I knew that's how things worked."

The show is in no way controlled by the government...


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:10 PM by Dewm0nster
reply to post by Doomsday 2029



Oh,
That explains it.
That's why the twin towers were destroyed.

Damn movies and Hollywood types, with their bright music and loud colours- And their "Entertainment."


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:11 PM by MatrixProphet
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I understand where you are coming from, but you are using your frame of reference and are creating a black and white scenario, here.

It isn't that black and white. I certainly am not saying that the NWO has a hand in the business. But to say or believe that there are no agendas in any of the writing that is ever produced - I believe shows naivete.

People put their own political thoughts and prejudices into a movie and hope to sway thinking. Others will use this vehicle to get their personal points across, while others want to make a cute movie about a dog!


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:15 PM by nsaeyes
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absolutely, people do put thier own thoughts and prejudices and political points of view into a movie, no question about that.....

but, that being said and agreed upon, that's A VERY LONG WAY from saying Hollywood is controlled by some sort of grand conspiracy.

I also agree with the point that there is a ton of junk out there in both feature and television today....I have an easy answer when I see those shows or movies....I don't watch them.

In order to create anything, you have to do it from a strong point of view, but point of view doesn't equal consiracy.



reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:22 PM by MatrixProphet
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but, that being said and agreed upon, that's A VERY LONG WAY from saying Hollywood is controlled by some sort of grand conspiracy.


Yes I agree with that!

It is not to say that powers to be won't take advantage of the finished product though. Remember propaganda war movies made in the 40's? That is an example.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:30 PM by nsaeyes
Originally posted by MatrixProphet
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post by nsaeyes



but, that being said and agreed upon, that's A VERY LONG WAY from saying Hollywood is controlled by some sort of grand conspiracy.


Yes I agree with that!

It is not to say that powers to be won't take advantage of the finished product though. Remember propaganda war movies made in the 40's? That is an example.


let's use that as an example....many, many propaganda war movies made about WWII and there was a very distinct point of view that was unmistakable in those movies.....so, if we look at the movies that have come out in the last 5 years (let's just pick a number that is recent so our memory isn't too poor), what films might fall into goverment prop. type movies?

Jarhead was pretty much exposing the boredom and overall silliness that took place during Desert Storm..

Rendition was a shot at the U.S. government for the way the CIA is/was handling the terrorist issues..

Lions for Lambs I didn't see because I was forewarned it was total trash...

EagleEye was very incoherant and although exposed some tremendous technology, it again was against the side of the government...

those are some off the top of my head, if you come up with some more, let me know....i like discussing the topic with the sane and evenly balanced....


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:34 PM by Question Fate
Originally posted by taserman
Hollywood is run by Jewish people, seriously look at who produces movies or directors, Jewish people left and right, they basically own and run it.

Now, read the Talmud, which says that race-mixing, i.e. interracial marriage is OK for the goyim (goyim = nonjews) but wrong for Jews.

Gentiles/Goyim have long been the enemy of Jews, and vice versa, since bible times. We are still at war with each other but Jews have the upper hand because they have tricked the Gentiles into believe that the war is no more and that everyone should be peaceful towards one another.

But the Jews have taken their war against the Gentiles underground. They know that the best way to destroy the gentiles is to get them to mix with difference races, for their offspring are no longer white or no longer black, but all brown.


Now watch any hollywood movie in recent years and tell me how many mixed-race couples you see in these movies, how much it is shoved down our throats. I myself haven't seen a white couple in any recent movies and I've seen at least 8 different movies in the past 2 months. It's always a black guy with a white woman or a white guy with an asian woman.


People emulate movies and television, it basically dictates our lives. Where do people learn to kiss? Probably seen it in a movie. Or learn how to shoot a gun? Probably saw it in a movie. Movies control us. And he who controls the movies, controls us.

There's the hollywood conspiracy for you. Enough of this bull# about masons or new world orders, the real threat is clear, zionist world supremacists who control hollywood, television, and the mass media, is no secret. It's simple research.

[edit on 7-1-2009 by taserman]


lmao

Seriously is this what ATS has become? Why has ATS shifted towards this line of thinking? When I first joined ATS, this type of crap was kept to a minimum. But now, it's always the same 4-5 people with the same stereotypical crap.

But then again, what do I know. It must be the Jews and Negros taking over the world.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:49 PM by arizonascott
reply to post by lazarus801



PARANOID - are you kidding me?

We have never seen the military industrial complex getting involved in every U.S. aspect as we do now. They have been training with local state law enforcement. Last time I checked the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia and other various Middle Eastern places. Why all of a sudden the terrorist focus on Americans? Why are they redirecting their efforts here at home?

We have never experienced Presidential administrations and Washington leadership this out of control before. They have been hiding behind a veil of secrecy. They have been catering to banks and large Corporate interests by giving our hard earned tax dollars without any accountability to where "our" money is going. Torture is now excepted as well as starting preemptive wars and killing hundreds of thousands without any true and proven evidense.

There is a police state going up all around us, cops have been trained to taze or forcefully arrest and ask questions later. What about cops shooting unarmed people in the back while they are in restraints like the BART situation in San Francisco. How about the public, traffic and freeway cameras going up everywhere by the thousands across our Nation (Big Brother).

Cheney shoots a man in the face, most likely drunk, then hides out until sober - no questions asked. Cheney claims he is not accountable and not part of the executive branch. Cheney and Bush hand picks the 9/11 commission and refuse to testify, in fact Cheney did all the talking and refused to let Bush answer anything. Millions of missing emails dealing with the firing of US Attorneys as well as info on answering the questions about the Valerie Plame situation. Why did Cheney move Halliburton to the United Arab Emerites - Maybe here is a reason why: Halliburton has gone to extraordinary lengths in the past to do business with the terrorist government in Iran," said Senator Lautenberg. "Given Halliburton's past dealings with Iran, the company's odd announcement this week certainly sets off alarm bells about its intention to do business with state sponsors of terrorism. Not to mention in the UAE, a corporate business is exempt and free from US deportation or legal issues.

They want to implement RFID chips into everything. Any cell phone can be turned on and listened to conversations without any knowledge by the phone owner.

The lists go on and on and all of this went into full swing right after 9/11!

9/11 a situtaion that we still have many questions about but have not had any answers to!

But yet all the power they have achieved have been from that "one" event!

And you say we are way to paranoid! What country have you been living in?

Good Lord

[edit on 7-1-2009 by arizonascott]


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:51 PM by MemoryShock
Originally posted by MrJelly
2. There can not be brainwashing if people are not FORCED into watching movies.


This is a misnomer. Subtle Coercion, if done intentionally, is forcing. The difference is that some of the social techniques and technologies aren't even close to being in the public's peripheral awareness, much less comprehension.

Do you think it is an accident that more people prefer Coca-Cola to RC Cola?

Advertising and associating a topic/subject/person/product with something that is known to appeal to the average human physiology is manipulation.

I'm not sure why most people dismiss this notion so easily...


you are CHOOSING to watch the movie,


There is a differnece between consent and informed consent. As I have stated, many products and media are designed to appeal to the consumer - using basic physiological stimulii to provoke specific reactions.

So while I don't necessarily disagree with the main point of your post, I certainly disagree that most people actually know what they are doing and why they are reacting...indeed, many people just react their way through life without any introspection towards the hows and whys ofg their behaviour.


NEWS: A Unique Opportunity: Pentagon Funds Screenwriters Conference

Linked for relevance...as it seems clear that there are people out there who are working behind the scenes to insure a complicit agreement and interest.

Also, check out the second link in my signature to get a glimpse into the advanced nature of the advertising industry...


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 04:10 PM by RobertPaulsim
IMHO goes like this:

Mom & Dad pass along parts of NWO programming mostly UNQUESTIONED [1][2],
following what they received and processed from their own parents, thus
completing the cycle. CHILD receive and accepts this info through the years,
process that with the parameters of his generation[3][4][5], and its ready
to carry on with the new individual programming[6];

[1] Religion, with its close book pseudo-spirituality; mind control by guilt
and fear;

[2] Non questioning the ways of the world - accepting the monetary system;

[3] Degradation of education with unprecedented levels of entertainment;

[4] Keep your attention on survival mode, and the need to have a 'job' that
can get you food and shelter. This job is to provide PROFIT for someone else,
and thus building up the piramid of the monetary system, because PROFIT
excells when there is shortage or scarsity, and its MULTIPLIED by corruption
and fraud. When is about survival, you cant expect people to behave.

[5] 'Learning' on how to have a 'good' time, because 'you only live once',
'got nothing better to do', 'im bored', 'one cig or beer wont kill you', and
so forth of NWO social conditioning to drugs and to prevent 'smart' people;

[6] You are not special, you are small, you need to start accepting things
the way they are, stop imagining things, the monetary system just need
some adjustements, you are free to choose everything in your life, if you
dont have a decent job or house is because of the choices you made;


Its getting worse every year....


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 04:10 PM by nsaeyes
reply to post by MemoryShock



just want to quickly comment on the Pentagon holding writing seminars for scientists....

it's an extremely tough thing to get a movie sold. there are over 100,000 that are written and registered with the WGA every year. Of those 100,000...roughly 400 are bought by someone.

Of those 400....3/4 are made and of those remaining 300, about 200 make it out to television/cable, theaters of straight to DVD.

So the odds of a scientist, who hasn't been properly trained in this matter has about as much chance as a writer winning a Nobel science prize.
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