'Wireless power' spells end for cables

www.guardian.co.uk...

Could we be on the verge of another technological revolution on par with the industrial revolution and the information age? Could this be the manifestation of Tesla technology? Or is this just one more way to control the population...?

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[edit on Wed Feb 18 2009 by Jbird]

Meh, this technology widely uses the Tessla designs if i'm not mistaken. I've seen this for a couple of years now, it's still fairely fresh, they haven't really gotten alot of power out of what they're putting in. I think it's somwhere along the lines of 40% output.

None the less, it's a great idea.

Tesla had a working prototype but that unit didnt work very well due to efficiency issues with the impurities in the wire used for the windings. Plus the core did not have a low permability factor (Q) for hf oscillation induction.

It is a workable technology. But the problem lies in the massive RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) caused by the system.

To minimize the RFI, the system would have to comprise of many transmitting towers. These towers would have to be fed by an isolated line carrying the ac signal, usually around 120khz or so, and syncronized across the tower grids so that they all output in phase with one another so as to not cause phase cancellation from one tower to the next.

Plus each tower would have to be powered by an energy source. If somehow they are able to make each tower power itself as well as produce enough power to transmit to the end users, then it would not require being tied to any power grid. Using a local generator at each tower would be somewhat impractical and very expensive.

So with still some hurdles to overcome, it will be awhile before we see any kind of wireless power distribution system that can replace the current wired power grid system.



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 6-1-2009 by RFBurns]

What about the issues with cellular abnomalities caused by wi-fi tech? Is that of concern to anyone here? True, not true?

Tessla here, Tessla there, seriously, I'm sick of his name

Whatever happened to Maxwell, Hertz, and Faraday, if any, they should be the ones receiving credit for wireless power. I have to admit Tessla was the first to build darn good applications from what scientists already knew, but still fail to see how he became ATS #1 hero though I have a feeling it's because his 'missing' free energy devices.

The 40% efficiency device resulted at an MIT test, using Resonant Induction on a 60W lightbulb with a range of about 2m. Proper credit for the device does not go to Tessla(in fact, he has nothing to do with this, except maybe for inspiration since he was the first known scientist to seek wireless everyday electric power transfer), but to Marin Soljačić and his team at MIT.





[edit on 7-1-2009 by daniel_g]

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You said it, man.


No, it's simply because he was a genuine mad scientist. By the end of his life he was stark, raving mad, and his so-called 'inventions' were unfeasible, unscientific monstrosities. And he was a paranoiac who thought people were trying to get him. Perfect ATS material, in other words.

Yes, he was once a great scientist. This is fully acknowledged by the scientific community - it is why we measure magnetic flux density in teslas. But his greatness was well behind him by the end of his life. He was a poor, anorexic, deluded nutcase.

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40% isn't bad considering that the network of overhead powerlines runs at an efficiency rate somewhere around 1%.

In a world without wires, laptop users in cafes and airport terminals would be inside an "electricity hotspot" and no longer have to delve past legs, bags and furniture in search of an awkwardly located socket.

"You'd be able to buy a desk that charged any gadget placed on it, or power any PC you put on top," said James Holland, editor of gadgets website Electricpig.co.uk.

"If each room had wireless power, you'd know that once you walked through the front door your mobile would start charging up - even while still in your bag or pocket. You'd never need to hunt for the right charger again."

I think it is not nice to speak of a person that was thinking 500 years ahed of his time as a 'nutcase'...

it makes you look stup*d


and, please, learn history before accusing one of the most important man in human history of being deluded

my husband is as huge techi...and I have alot of this technology in my home..wireless internet, we only have cellphones, our tv is wireless, and our surround sound is wireless, so I can see this becoming a total possibility...just wondering, if it fell like this to the whole world..what impact would it have on our magnetic field? any at all? it kind of leads to the story, or at least for me it does, about how atlantis was technologically advanced, as well as the ancients..is it possilbe that we find no proof of this other than drawings, simply because the proof would be gone? think about it...if they had some type of wireless tech....and then they're civilization was destroyed..would we know it? would we find proof of it?

You can hate on Tesla all you want. It makes no difference that EVERY piece of electronics you see around you are based on his work. The car you drive would not go anywhere without his work. That job you probably have wouldn't be the way it is now without his work.


Talking all the crap you want about the man doesn't change his impact on our world.

how would that affect us? I mean would it not get to the point of so many things in the air (all the differnet types of waves) that it can them become very harmful?

I mean wifi, radio, microwave, gamma, etc...


[edit on 7-1-2009 by cplouffe]

Yeah I agree that we already have faaaaarrr more electromagnetic fields around us faaaaarrrrr too often and that HAS to have some sort of effect on us... the dangers of increasing that wirelessly could be perilous to us all.

This is both cool as tech and scary as health related, but I still don't get how multiple devices that require multiple levels of power all run on the same system.

I guess it could work for things with a limit range of source power, but still seems that it would require a reworking of everything it was to be used with and that is gonna cost a pretty penny I'm sure.

it will cook peoplE....

like a microwave....

DEATH AND DISEASE AND CANCER FROM EMF....

I guess we will find out soon enough because it seems that this is in the works whether we want it or not, health issues seem to be negligable (so they say...) so there is nothing to stop it now.

That is the problem right here. Tessla is not the invertor of everything. Your car would not go anywhere if it wasn't for Carnot, not Tessla. If Tessla ever created an engine it was based off Carnot's and were probably highly inefficient.

The device the OP is reffering to was designed by Marin Soljačić, not Tessla. The only connection between this device and Tessla's devices is that they serve the same purpose, but through very different means,
so the second post on this thread gives Tessla credit for something he didn't do. Now you are giving Tessla credit for 'EVERY' piece of electronics out there?



No one is talking crap about him but you guys. As an EE student I have done research on plenty of Tessla's work and though he went nuts(and that's a fact so Mr. donhuangenaro needs to do some research of his own), his work deserves plenty of recognition. But please understand Tessla was not the only scientist out there, and giving Tessla credit for things he didn't do is an insult not only to other scientists, but to Tessla himself.

Since you add so much emphasis to the word 'every' by capitalizing it, please explain how Tessla invented microprocessors. Whlie you are at it, explain why Tessla, and not Soljačić should receive credit for the Resonant Induction method.

Out of curiousity would this be a problem to human and animal health; lets say something is charging

* What happens if you touch it

* What happens if walk through the field while stuff is charging

* What happens if there is a power surge would electric volts just start shooting all over the place

* How would objects around it be effected food, metal objects, cords, electronics, pace makers be effected.

* What happens if water is near by

Good questions you bring up. Which makes me ask myself, "Are they testing this somewhere? Where? Will they release their findings or will they keep them secret?"

That potentially brings up some very scary scenarios.

Forgot one would this only be in certain areas I could think of a few more problems if this was anywhere like wifi.

* What happens if you outside while its raining and you phone/mp3 player/whatever wants to charge and picks up a signal.


* Would the wireless electricity attract lightning.