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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 05:24 PM by ben91069
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Emotion is the life of the soul. Emotion is the reaction or the hidden duality in response to the spirit which is also the code to life. The
reaction does not create reality, it reacts to it and feeds it back to the source which is the master coder of all reality who experiences the game
within his self.
The emotion is the place of the outside and of the woman. The one who writes the code and has the keys is the man who was in the woman and
experienced emotion for a short time as a simple meal.
Comprende?
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:12 PM by DrumsRfun
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I will ask for the second time.
What if you don't have much emotion...does that make it that your reality is less??
If you were an alligator and had no emotions then does that make his reality less then yours?
I don't think thats how the world works.
The alligators reality is the same as yours...you are no better.
Its almost a pompous idea.
An answer please???
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:18 AM by Maylian
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people with alexythimia have trouble understanding, processing, or describing emotions.
Personal accounts from people with alexythimia say that they feel nothing no matter what happens...no emotion whatever the circumstance.
so according to what you say these people wouldnt have a reality live in
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:14 AM by Astyanax
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Its almost a pompous idea.
Almost?
It's a ridiculously pompous idea.
It is the idea that one layabout's bloated, selfish, contemptible little ego is more powerful than the Universe.
It is the idea that every two-bit high school dropout is God, or at least Stalin.
It's laughably pompous, and anyone who believes it for a moment deserves a sound kicking. Plus an extra kick for sullying the Science & Technology
forum with this superstitious trash.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:19 AM by ben91069
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Originally posted by DrumsRfun
I will ask for the second time.
What if you don't have much emotion...does that make it that your reality is less??
If you were an alligator and had no emotions then does that make his reality less then yours?
I don't think thats how the world works.
The alligators reality is the same as yours...you are no better.
Its almost a pompous idea.
An answer please???
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Assuming you experience emotion, your experience is your own and you accept your fate. Who are you to say what an alligator is or isn't because you
are outside of it. You are either gnostic or agnostic within yourself only.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:23 AM by sebarud
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I could not agree more.
According to this idiotic theory, somehow the children in Gaza must have created the war that is killing them - because of their emotions.
Yeah, right.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:24 AM by Astyanax
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its no new age hippy crap its science. check out gregg braden The Science of Miracles.
No, it is New Age hippie crap.
Maybe people who don't know anything about science are fooled.
Sorry, but there it is.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:01 PM by manbearpig
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Originally posted by DrumsRfun
I will ask for the second time.
What if you don't have much emotion...does that make it that your reality is less??
If you were an alligator and had no emotions then does that make his reality less then yours?
I don't think thats how the world works.
The alligators reality is the same as yours...you are no better.
Its almost a pompous idea.
An answer please???
[edit on 8-1-2009 by DrumsRfun]
they run off instinct not emotion.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:09 PM by kosmicjack
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Okay, the Gaza comparison almost has my mind changed...
But I really don't see how the OP's position is all that different from LOA. If you intend to be happy, you will be. If you intend to be sad, you
will be. I don't mean to be a simpleton about this.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:07 PM by Astyanax
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But I really don't see how the OP's position is all that different from LOA. If you intend to be happy, you will be. If you intend to be sad,
you will be.
Cosmic, I have to ask, and so? So what?
Happiness is the goal?
Allow me to quote at length. From Dostoevsky.
And so these refined parents subjected their five-year-old girl to all kinds of torture. They beat her, kicked, her, flogged her, for no reason
they themselves knew of. The child's whole body was covered in bruises. Eventually they devised a new refinement. Under the pretext that the child
dirtied her bed (as though a five-year-old deep in angelic sleep could be punished for that), they forced her to eat excrement, smearing it all over
her face. And it was the mother who did it! And then that woman would lock her little daughter up in the outhouse until morning and she did so even on
the coldest nights, when it was freezing. Just imagine the cries coming from that infamous outhouse! Imagine the little creature, unable even to
understand what is happening to her, beating her sore little chest with her tiny fist, weeping hot, unresentful, meek tears, and begging 'gentle
Jesus' to help her, and all this happening in that icy, dark, stinking place! Do you understand this thing, my dear friend, my brother...? Tell me,
do you understand the purpose of this absurdity? Who needs it and why was it created? They say that man could not do without it on Earth, because
otherwise he would not be able to learn the difference between good and evil. But I say I'd rather not know about their damned good and evil than pay
such a terrible price for it. I feel that all universal knowledge is not worth that child's tears when she was begging 'gentle Jesus' to help
her!
Oh, it's fiction, of course. The Brothers Karamazov, in A.R. MacAndrew's translation. But this is the kind of fiction, harrowing as it is,
that pales before reality. And this Law of Attraction, which - yes, you are right - equates precisely to the idea that emotion creates reality, is
essentially the willingness to ignore all the sorrow and horror and injustice of the world and concentrate on building one's own wilfully blind
self-created non-reality. It's never going to happen in real life - there is no Law of Attraction, emotion does not create reality - but what this
belief really does is place the believer in the centre of their own egotistical universe where circumstances don't matter, the horror and the pity
don't matter even if they're your own, so long as you can convince yourself you're happy. EVen that little girl in the outhouse might - given
sufficient experience of the outhouse, and competent enough indoctrination - even be able to convince herself that she is happy, because this is her
lot and she is paying the wages of sin whose price will assure her passage to heaven. Doesn't this happen? And don't the doing of real-life
monsters, like Fred and Rose West or the guy who runs the Lord's Resistance Army in South Sudan and Uganda, leave Dostoevsky's cruel
nineteenth-century Russian parents in the shade? You're going to ignore all that and 'intend to be happy'? For shame, girl. Life and liberty first,
please, after that we can get on to the pursuit of happiness.
Quoting literature in the Science & Tech forum. I will be cursed with an outbreak of nanotechnological boils.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:12 PM by Skyfloating
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Astyanax is correct. Its new age, not science. And yes, its "law-of-attraction".
Which doesnt keep me from believing in it though
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:13 PM by Skyfloating
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Making statements about how suffering comes to be and how it perpetuates itself, does not equate "ignoring" suffering.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:36 PM by ziggystar60
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What a terrific theory this must be for people who have been fortunate enough in life to escape war, hunger, powerty, illness and other tragedies!
Now these lucky guys can pat themselves on the back and be real pleased that they had the good sense to feel the right amount of happines and somehow
managed to creat their own happy, little bubble in the world. What a wonderful, fairytale kingdom these people must live in.
Or perhaps they just never ever read a newspaper or watch the news. They really can't have the slightest idea how life is for millions and millions
of people on this earth... Children being slaughtered in war, hundreds of thousands starving to death in African countries, millions living in poverty
and need....
But hey, these stupid people just don't understand how "The Law of Attraction" works, right?
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:57 PM by Astyanax
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No, it doesn't. But... you know... I live in a culture where acceptance and contemplation are the prescribed attitude to pain and suffering. I also
live in the middle of a bloody civil war that has taken about a hundred thousand lives in the generation it has lasted so far. For all those people
who died, and those they left behind, acceptance and contemplation are dusty answers.
Enumerating the ills of the world is not enough.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:59 PM by DrumsRfun
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Thanks for the sober thought.
I was thinking the exact same thing.Its ignorant,its not science.Science can give me proof.
I totally agree that this theory must come from someone who hasn't lived much life and seen much pain.
How would they explain all the people who died in war.How would they explain ww1 and ww2.How can you explain a kid whos in love with some girl who
doesn't like him back....it must be his fault??
Its ignorant hairy fairy stuff.
I think blossom goodchild would love this thread LOL
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:00 PM by kosmicjack
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Your comments remind me of Wayne Dyer. I know there are people suffering, but should it preclude me from being happy, especially if I am powerless to
change their situation?
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reply to post by Skyfloating
Specifically related to Israel, Gaza and the story posted above - If peace and/or an end to suffering is what is truly intended, wouldn't a person or
people find a way to achieve it? Emotion (intention) would create or seek out circumstances or actions conducive to it.
Again, not trying to beg the issue.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:03 PM by Skyfloating
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Well, the thing is this: In a state of suffering I wouldnt have enough energy to effect any change or help anyone.
Im not helping the unhappy by being unhappy myself.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:08 PM by kosmicjack
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In fact, you are very likely to perpetuate or spread even more UNhappiness. No? Thus, emotions create reality.
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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:08 PM by DrumsRfun
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Thanks for actually answering my question.
It is a pompous thing I agree.People are grabbing at anything these days to make themselves feel better.
I say grab a beer and let reality be what it is.
Emotions control your life but not your reality.Reality is what it is....we have no control.
How many times have you heard the saying...this can't be real or how can this be??
It is what it is.
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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 01:24 AM by Astyanax
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'I'm Alright, Jack'?
Originally by kosmicjack
In fact, you are very likely to perpetuate or spread even more UNhappiness. No? Thus, emotions create reality.
Post Edit: I said some unkind things to kosmicjack here, which I sincerely regret. I have removed them and I apologize for causing her distress.
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